X-Men: Apocalypse (May 27th, 2016)

[TablesTurnAgain]

I enjoyed it, but as referenced in the movie itself, the third movie is always the worst.

Quicksilver scene easily my favorite for the second straight movie. The movie shut off at the end of that scene at the theatre. We had to wait 10 minutes for them to get the movie back up and running.

[javierm27]

Originally Posted by fridge112887

What exactly is 'Weapon X'?

I meant in reference to Wolverine and seeing him go into berserker mode, and the costume he had when he was unleashed, it looked straight out of the comics.

[UCFish]

Originally Posted by jaking1185

Liked the movie. Story jumped around a lot, but knowing the history helped in that respect.

Not as good as Civil War or Deadpool, far superior to BvS.

Good review.

[bartender_man]

I liked it....

[KevinTH]

Saw it yesterday. It was pretty good, but not great. I thought it picked up a lot in the last 45 minutes to an hour. It felt like Jennifer Lawrence was just there as an obligation and a paycheck, and I wasn't a huge fan of the younger characters. I've never been into that whole thing. I'm not really that interested in seeing young Cyclops, Storm or Jeanne. Is there a plan moving forward with how they plan to mesh these with the originals? The last 3 movies have all been by decade, 60s, 70s and now 80s. Is the next movie in the 90s? Are they continuing on with this younger "First Class" crew? I guess I'm wondering when James McAvoy becomes Patrick Stewart, and so on.

I'm not an X-Men aficionado by any means. All I know comes from the movies, which I've always enjoyed, but the timeline is really confusing me. In X2 no one knew Nightcrawler at all, including Storm who got close to him in X2, but according to this movie he worked with the team years earlier. Did everyone just forget about this guy, or is the timeline changed because of Days of Future Past? Essentially, are the first 3 movies completely voided out now because of Future Past? Which, in turn maybe means McAvoy never has to become Stewart...hmmmm...

All in all, this movie just lacked any connection to the characters and the story felt a little weak. I think that's what bothered me. I just can't put my finger on it, but something just seemed to be lacking. I just didn't feel the same connection as I did in the last two movies. This just had an overall feel as if no one was really fully invested, whereas the last two movies seemed like everyone was all in. Almost as if someone like Jennifer Lawrence is kind of over doing this kind of movie.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

Is there a plan moving forward with how they plan to mesh these with the originals? The last 3 movies have all been by decade, 60s, 70s and now 80s. Is the next movie in the 90s?

I believe the plan is to have a 90's era movie for the next installment. Would likely be similar to the 90's X-Men cartoon in terms of characters

I'm not an X-Men aficionado by any means. All I know comes from the movies, which I've always enjoyed, but the timeline is really confusing me. In X2 no one knew Nightcrawler at all, including Storm who got close to him in X2, but according to this movie he worked with the team years earlier. Did everyone just forget about this guy, or is the timeline changed because of Days of Future Past? Essentially, are the first 3 movies completely voided out now because of Future Past?

I believe that DoFP pretty much erased the original 3; though similar events still end up occurring. I think there was a quote in DoFP that essentially says that while you can change things, some things are still destine to happen.

[Lee3691]

To Kevin's point, one of the weakest parts of the story was that they made Magneto and Professor X too young. I'm supposed to believe that in 17 years after Apocalypse that they look like their selves in Xmen (org movie)?

[KevinTH]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

To Kevin's point, one of the weakest parts of the story was that they made Magneto and Professor X too young. I'm supposed to believe that in 17 years after Apocalypse that they look like their selves in Xmen (org movie)?

I have a very expansive mind when it comes to remembering what kind of movie I'm watching and letting go of reality...but yeah, James McAvoy/Xavier works, but man, Magneto is going to have to have some really rough years up ahead to look like he did in 2000. I just think they jumped decades to quickly. Quicksilver hasn't aged a bit in 10 years, and neither has Hank, Magneto, Xavier, Alex Summers...That's nit picking, and really didn't bother me much. Plus, they're mutants, so maybe someone like Quicksilver ages differently.

Ironically, this movie felt like X-Men Last Stand in terms of quality and feel. I say ironically since they made that joke about the 3rd (X3) movie not being any good. My point being, I enjoyed X3 and didn't think it was as bad as some say, but I get that it wasn't as good as the first two. That's how I felt about this. Good overall, but just didn't really do much for me either. It's just kind of there. I totally disagree that this movie was better than BvS...but we don't need to go there.....again.

Interesting about the timeline. So basically the first two movies are pointless now? Kind of a weird choice in direction. I know people wanted the first Wolverine erased from existence, but 1 & 2 are great and 3 was at least OK, I thought.

[bradshaw06]

It is so jumbled and confusing.

[TwoStep2888]

I liked it, had fun

X2, DOFP, and the Wolverine are above it for me, but it's def in the top half of X-movies and I hope Singer keeps making them

[TwoStep2888]

dumb http://www.avclub.com/article/fox-ap...-lawren-237723

[jrod41]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

dumb http://www.avclub.com/article/fox-ap...-lawren-237723

jesus christ so stupid

[junior94]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

dumb http://www.avclub.com/article/fox-ap...-lawren-237723

contrived outrage!!

loud noises!!


I mean the whole female-specific argument is so retarded, but honestly even if the stranglee was a dude character, that's a kind of weird image to use in marketing, especially such a huge billboard. For what's ultimately just a pg-13 comic book movie. certainly not the one I would've advised them to use, I don't care who he was threatening.

[UCFish]

I am as un-pc as you can be.....the Poster was really (PC PRINCIPAL) absurd.......

..........I don't care but I get it.

[javierm27]

Originally Posted by UCFish

I am as un-pc as you can be.....the Poster was really (PC PRINCIPAL) absurd.......

..........I don't care but I get it.

Finally something we agree about.

[WidespreadMule3]

That's so dumb. People get their panties in a wad over everything these days.

[BTBaboon]

Saw this today. Definitely not the best entry in the X-Men series, but still very fun and entertaining. I liked the young cast, especially Jean. Also seeing Logan in full out weapon-X form was great.

Teaser at the end was also pretty interesting for what it could mean for future X-Men films

[jayman414]

Saw it last night and didn't stick around for the teaser at the end, what happened?

Also, one thing I did not understand was how did Wolverine end up in Striker's custody? Did I miss something at the end of DoFP?

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by jayman414

Saw it last night and didn't stick around for the teaser at the end, what happened?

Also, one thing I did not understand was how did Wolverine end up in Striker's custody? Did I miss something at the end of DoFP?

Showed men returning the Striker facility and taking some of the blood samples of weapon X. Briefcase closes at the end and the name plate reads EssexCorp; relating to Nathaniel Essex (AKA Mister Sinister)

With regards to how Logan ends up with Striker - it's been over a decade so a lot could have happened. Seems Mystique is kind of jaded about her status as a hero. After saving Nightcrawler, she wants to just leave him to his own to find his way after being freed. Maybe she did the same with Logan

[junior94]

yea this is what especially bothered me with the whole Wolverine/Stryker thing, and those guys essentially saying "well fuck the continuity making sense, we just thought this would be cool". That ending moment in DOFP didn't seem at all even necessary! Having Stryker's eyes glow yellow at the last second to indicate it was really Mystique. I was perfectly fine with, and thought it absolutely made sense, for that really to have been Stryker there leading the team to fish him out of the water. Stryker got a glimpse of Wolverine back in that room in France (even if that was the first time he ever saw him in the new time line, which seemed to be the case), so it seems perfectly natural that he'd then be compelled to take possession of Wolverine at a later time if given the opportunity. So you just keep that having really been Stryker, and boom -- that part of the continuity, at least, seems not really messed with and it fits in.

I gotta say, the more time that passes now from having seen Apocalypse and the more I think about it at all, the less and less I like it. which bums me out, I wanted to really dig it. and I loved DOFP, but now after this, I'm firmly in the camp of people thinking I'm more than welcome to see another director take the reigns for the next film.

[clayj41]

Expectations are a funny thing. Asides from Batman, X-men were my first comic love. I held off on seeing this for nearly two weeks because of the lukewarm and even outright negative reviews. I went in expecting nothing, and damn if I didn't walk away astonishingly satisfied. It sits behind only DOFP and X2 in my book.

[neumdogg]

Maybe I have superhero fatigue but I honestly enjoyed this movie exactly as much as I enjoyed Civil War and BvS.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by clayj41

Expectations are a funny thing. Asides from Batman, X-men were my first comic love. I held off on seeing this for nearly two weeks because of the lukewarm and even outright negative reviews. I went in expecting nothing, and damn if I didn't walk away astonishingly satisfied. It sits behind only DOFP and X2 in my book.

holy crap, you mean you think Apocalypse was better than First Class? gotta say... wow.

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by junior94

holy crap, you mean you think Apocalypse was better than First Class? gotta say... wow.

I always found First Class to be extremely overrated. I think I even prefer the original X-Men. First Class took far too many canonical liberties for my liking. DOFP and Apocalypse each suffered as a result, but both felt truer to the spirit of the comics and the 90's animated series to me.

[jrod41]

Originally Posted by clayj41

Expectations are a funny thing. Asides from Batman, X-men were my first comic love. I held off on seeing this for nearly two weeks because of the lukewarm and even outright negative reviews. I went in expecting nothing, and damn if I didn't walk away astonishingly satisfied. It sits behind only DOFP and X2 in my book.

[mja271]

Originally Posted by clayj41

I always found First Class to be extremely overrated. I think I even prefer the original X-Men. First Class took far too many canonical liberties for my liking. DOFP and Apocalypse each suffered as a result, but both felt truer to the spirit of the comics and the 90's animated series to me.

I did not like First Class. With how well it was received I expected to enjoy it significantly more than I did.

[WidespreadMule3]

Think I'm finally gonna go see this on Sunday. Going in with minimal expectations at this point. Just really want to see it on the big screen.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

Think I'm finally gonna go see this on Sunday. Going in with minimal expectations at this point. Just really want to see it on the big screen.

see the ironic thing to me when you say this, I kinda can't help the best way to have approached this whole thing is, well of course something that would've never been even close to a real option. As a limited run TV series. I think especially when you're having this villain who is, on paper at least, pretty much the most formidable opponent you could possibly imagine, got virtually every conceivable power, that you just can't comprehend how he'd be defeated. I think you need more of a slow burn with this story, establishing the villain better and his desires and motivations. Obviously this isn't a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie, but feels like they still wound up having the same major problem so many MCU flicks do, a really meh villain. You do like maybe 6-8 different 50ish minute episodes.

[RSSR]

Just got back from seeing this.

Does what Apocalypse say, with regard to seeing Jean Grey set us up for Dark Phoenix? Or does the final clip at the end set us up for Mr. Sinister? God I hope Singer gets to finally do a Dark Phoenix story. God X-Men: Last Stand's use of the character was dog shit. Soggy dog shit at that.

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[TwoStep2888]

I think the Phoenix stuff will be the next X-men one, and the after credits set up the next Wolverine