From Jam Band to Rock Band

[Wicklutz52]

I love Tim but he is changing the band. I miss Butch and I feel like the past years they have totally put Boyd in the background. Hoping this album gets back too the old era. What are everyone's thoughts?

[BruceW]

I hope so too...but at the same time I love the versatility they have shown with the rock aspect...but I do wish we got a mixture of that 98 sound with Tim and the 2011 sound

[gak77]

Yes
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[drop2d]

My thoughts are 'welcome to ants, this thread has been done a thousand times over'.

[BotheLaneFan]

They stopped being a jam band a LONG fucking time ago. Thank Christ.

[smashvacation]

Haha, all of these threads start with "I love Tim, but...."

[NextMovement41]

Originally Posted by BotheBJfan

They stopped being a jam band a LONG fucking time ago. Thank Christ.

how many times is your name gonna change?

[nbroscoff]

I can't believe how many much these threads pop up. I love the band with Tim and with Butch. My favorite era of DMB is when they had both. I love the rock sound and I love the jazz sound. I'm hoping they just keep making music. And as long as the quality is at or higher then BW I will be happy.

[bigeyedfish1979]

My thoughts are if you don't like direction the band has chosen to go stop listening to them because I highly doubt your going to see Dave and the guys go back to 90's anytime soon.

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by smashvacation

Haha, all of these threads start with "I love Tim, but...."

My thought exactly. Oh so you don't actually love Tim.

Don't act like you do and then say he's ruining your band.

[TwoStep2888]

From Good Band to Shit Band

[420th jimi]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

From Good Band to Shit Band

Then what are you still doing here if that's the way you feel?

[pathetic]

from good band to different good band.

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by pathetic

from good band to different good band.

Agreed.

[Wicklutz52]

No I still love there music but I want some of there jam sounds from the 90s. I feel if they had a mix of brh that would be revolutionary

[Wicklutz52]

Exactly never said the new music sucks.

[Wicklutz52]

Originally Posted by sheldonlevene

Agreed.

Originally Posted by pathetic

from good band to different good band.

Exactly never said the new music sucked I love it

[Neverknow34]

I want more boyd. period. He is what makes the band.

I do love Tim, though sometimes i think he could be turned down a tad.
To me, they haven't been a real "jam" band since the EARLY 90's (93-94) and even then their "jamming" has been scarce. They've never truly jammed a lot.

I enjoy the sound, but i think Lillywhite is going to tune Tim down some, and i hope to god that translates into the shows.
I wouldn't say they went from Jam band to rock band, but that's just me.

[yanks7533]

Having tim makes them more of a jam band, and they jam more often and better now than they ever have. Early on like 92-94 they were very jammy and alot of the time jams changed on songs like liog, jimi thing, two step night to night. However most of the time after that their "jams" became very safe and structured. Since tim has come along we have seen very jammed out songs that are completely improvisational such as '08 Two steps, '08 -'10 #41's, liog is a completely improvised on the jam besides the chords Dave plays. Fonze has been playing more improved basslines, Coffin allows Carter and fonze to jam with much more improv than when Roi was around.

Honestly I don't know where some of you get your opinions, I think a lot of you think jam band sound means old dmb sound. This is just bs. One of my friends who only listens to jam bands and appreciates DMB but doesn't love them has multiple time gone to me saying how much more open and jammy they've gotten. I mean there's literally dozens of songs where i can point out how it is being jammed out more now than 5 or 15 years ago. Not liking the setlists or the sound of the new songs does not mean they are less of a jam band now. Their live sound changing to a more rock sound because they have an electric guitar doesn't mean they are less of a jam band. Like, have you guys compared the start of seek up now to the start of seek up 10 years ago? How are you going to tell me they are less of a jam band now than before. The best part of this whole deal is DMB is one of the the only band in the jam band scene (and they are in that scene whether the band or its fans wants to admit it or not) that isn't known for electric guitar. Yet the second they sound more electric they are no longer a jam band.

I'm not saying they wern't tighter in '98 because they were but dayumm people need to appreciate certain aspects of the current iteration of dmb more

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by Wicklutz52

No I still love there music but I want some of there jam sounds from the 90s. I feel if they had a mix of brh that would be revolutionary

Jam sounds suck. Stop smoking pot.

[Neverknow34]

Originally Posted by BotheBJfan

Jam sounds suck. Stop smoking pot.

that's ignorant.

What's your take on The Grateful Dead?

DMB isn't a jam band. Don't worry. They improvise, but they don't jam. (at least not in my opinion of what jamming is)

But why hate "Jam- Bands" ?

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by Neverknow34

that's ignorant.

What's your take on The Grateful Dead?

DMB isn't a jam band. Don't worry. They improvise, but they don't jam. (at least not in my opinion of what jamming is)

But why hate "Jam- Bands" ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m4wbYc08k

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

They were never a jam band.

[dmband414]

Originally Posted by yanks7533

Having tim makes them more of a jam band, and they jam more often and better now than they ever have. Early on like 92-94 they were very jammy and alot of the time jams changed on songs like liog, jimi thing, two step night to night. However most of the time after that their "jams" became very safe and structured. Since tim has come along we have seen very jammed out songs that are completely improvisational such as '08 Two steps, '08 -'10 #41's, liog is a completely improvised on the jam besides the chords Dave plays. Fonze has been playing more improved basslines, Coffin allows Carter and fonze to jam with much more improv than when Roi was around.

Honestly I don't know where some of you get your opinions, I think a lot of you think jam band sound means old dmb sound. This is just bs. One of my friends who only listens to jam bands and appreciates DMB but doesn't love them has multiple time gone to me saying how much more open and jammy they've gotten. I mean there's literally dozens of songs where i can point out how it is being jammed out more now than 5 or 15 years ago. Not liking the setlists or the sound of the new songs does not mean they are less of a jam band now. Their live sound changing to a more rock sound because they have an electric guitar doesn't mean they are less of a jam band. Like, have you guys compared the start of seek up now to the start of seek up 10 years ago? How are you going to tell me they are less of a jam band now than before. The best part of this whole deal is DMB is one of the the only band in the jam band scene (and they are in that scene whether the band or its fans wants to admit it or not) that isn't known for electric guitar. Yet the second they sound more electric they are no longer a jam band.

I'm not saying they wern't tighter in '98 because they were but dayumm people need to appreciate certain aspects of the current iteration of dmb more

just disagree with so much of this

can't wait for crashintonickdm to find this one...

[NextMovement41]

and yes, DMB never was a jam band.

[ctalk112]

A jam band is a band whose sound revolves around improvisational jamming. DMB does jam, and they do improvise. However, that has NEVER been their number one priority and that is fine. They are a great band and are unique because they aren't really defined in a lot of ways. And I love it.

[moosicmaniac]

Originally Posted by NextMovement41

and yes, DMB never was a jam band.

They were a band that took some extended solos and actually "jammed" in an exploratory way on very very rare occasion.

[crashintonickdm]

DMB was a jazzy band. now theyre a rock band. thats much more accurate. theyre more OARish. that big band sound. DMB is far more talented, but its the same stuff as OAR. (not a good thing at all, btw)

[bubba40]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

DMB was a jazzy band. now theyre a rock band. thats much more accurate. theyre more OARish. that big band sound. DMB is far more talented, but its the same stuff as OAR. (not a good thing at all, btw)

This makes no sense, but I'm going to attempt to reply (really, comparing freaking OAR to a "big band sound"? The same stuff as OAR? Huh? )

If you can't hear how they're still a jazzy band, I don't know what to tell you. Jeff, Carter, and Rashawn's contributions are HEAVILY infused with jazz.

[yanks7533]

Originally Posted by HTils08

just disagree with so much of this

can't wait for crashintonickdm to find this one...

I meant to say lithog not LIOG. That being said I'd be happy to have you show me more jammy versions of 10 songs from the 90's compared to their versions today. You can say anything you want it's your opinion but no one's showed me proof. And the versions can't include guests.