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Old 10-19-2022, 03:10 AM   #91
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Re: Live Trax Vol. 62: Blossom Music Center 6.25.2010

I try to never complain about the Live Trax releases, but damn this is horrible. It's the 6th full show released from 2010 and we pretty much have all these songs. There's not much that's evolved or that sets this show apart from other releases in 2010. Honestly, I'm shocked at how bad of a pick this is. I doubt it, but maybe we will get live trax 63 sooner than April or May 2023. Does anyone in the know have any info on that? This is horrible.
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    Have they changed who is releasing these? Anyone in management change recently? This just seems so out of touch. Like they picked a non DMB fan from the music industry to release this years selections and the descriptions. Maybe Dave’s kids?
    I think this show was chosen mostly because the poster for the show has a record player in it so it allows for a nice LP+Poster bundle.
    (And the fact that Blossom is a popular venue didn't hurt).

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    They say in the show description that they picked this because of the segues. I couldn't care less about segues, we want good songs.
    I wouldn't believe a word the blurb-writers say. Their job isn't to be honest; their job is to say something that will make you excite about the release that you may not have noticed from a quick scan of the setlist. They picked this show because they expect to make $$$ from it (either because they expect a lot of merch sales to people who want Ohio/DMB-themed merch or because they think they'll sell a lot of LP/poster bundles or because they think a lot of DMB vinyl collectors will want the poster).

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    That's a shame we aren't getting a CD+Blu-ray Live Trax for Christmas, I would love to see some more home video output from DMB.
    It's been a long time since DMB has released a Blu-ray, isn't it? Have any bands released DVDs/Blu-Rays in the last few years? I suspect not enough people want to buy the Blu-ray to justify the extra expense of editing/syncing the video. My guess is that DMB is hoping to convince a streaming service to pay to host videos of their live performances (e.g. Netflix having 30 live DMB shows available to stream), rather than continuing to sell directly to the consumer.

    What we all need to do is go listen to the audience recording of this show, and judge it on that, rather than the setlist. Maybe the show is better than we expect? (I haven't listened to the tape, so I don't know).
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    Everyone do and buy what you want. But buying these bundles will completely justify this release for those in charge. They are banking that the actual music is secondary to the merch movement. And they will be right. They didn’t see the setlist, they saw Ohio, they saw a poster, a calendar, and a pennant, and they saw a way to move merchandise. I’m not saying there’s anything we can do about it, I’m simply saying that this is how it is. Haha I promise this isn’t a boycott thing, wouldnt work anyway, but if you went to the show, like the set, love the 2010 sound, buy it and enjoy it! This band is awesome and I want you to enjoy as much as you can get.

    In my eyes the more boring the show the more money. I know little to nothing about the music industry but I’m sure paying guests royalties costs them more money. Getting rights to rare covers costs more money. Giants stadium? Gotta pay the lovely ladies or big voice Jack or whoever. Some average setlist from a year we have 6 or 7 releases already? Yeah we can do that one.

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    Old 10-19-2022, 05:09 AM   #94
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 62: Blossom Music Center 6.25.2010

    Big Voice Jack has been dead for 19 years
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    His estate gets paid. Leroi’s estate gets paid. Death doesn’t end royalties.
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    hard pass on this one. come on what are we doing here?
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    Old 10-19-2022, 05:49 AM   #97
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 62: Blossom Music Center 6.25.2010

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    Even if you hate the release, DMB vinyl continues to prove worth as an investment, holding and/or gaining value.

    Even Hollywood Bowl 2018 is running for $100+ on Discogs now.
    I also replied to this in the DMB vinyl thread, but please don't treat vinyl as an investment vehicle.

    Just to note, Hollywood Bowl retailed at $125 at list price, so it selling for below that isn't a good example of appreciating value.
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    I also replied to this in the DMB vinyl thread, but please don't treat vinyl as an investment vehicle.

    Just to note, Hollywood Bowl retailed at $125 at list price, so it selling for below that isn't a good example of appreciating value.
    I was going to say I thought in some of the various DMB collector forums I saw people taking photos of the HB Vinyl months later being sold in store at reduced prices.

    I agree 100% this shouldn't be an investment vehicle. Who the heck 5-10 years from now is gunne be like "crap I need to trade/pay for that Live Trax 62 Vinyl with the 300th released version of Cornbread and You and Mehhh!" lol.
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    Old 10-19-2022, 06:34 AM   #99
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    I was going to say I thought in some of the various DMB collector forums I saw people taking photos of the HB Vinyl months later being sold in store at reduced prices.

    I agree 100% this shouldn't be an investment vehicle. Who the heck 5-10 years from now is gunne be like "crap I need to trade/pay for that Live Trax 62 Vinyl with the 300th released version of Cornbread and You and Mehhh!" lol.
    I think it got as low as $20 from some vendors like popmarket and Import-CDs
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    I also replied to this in the DMB vinyl thread, but please don't treat vinyl as an investment vehicle.

    Just to note, Hollywood Bowl retailed at $125 at list price, so it selling for below that isn't a good example of appreciating value.
    By itself, yes.

    1-7, 35, 58, 62 as a bundle? All colors?
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    Old 10-19-2022, 08:01 AM   #101
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 62: Blossom Music Center 6.25.2010

    Speaking of the Hollywood Bowl release, I listened to it recently. It's funny how much autotune they used on it, especially Sledgehammer lol
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    While I don't like this release and hate this TimC/DC sounding era where coveted Busted Stuff on this tour was played with just an electric guitar and the Big Whiskey songs were played to death in the complete opposite nature of the original acoustic percussive 90s DMB I get why management is doing this.

    They are slowly releasing a few gems here and there and saving most of the gems for after the band retires like the Grateful Dead dropping classics like Cornell 77 and a Giants Stadium Box Set decades after the band lost Jerry. And really bands like Phish and the Grateful Dead has much more variety in how they played songs given they are actual Jam Bands. Whenever DMB calls it quits I think we will see more gems come out as a way to keep revenue going and in the meantime they are just seeing how many people are dumb enough to buy these subpar shows because people still buy supbar dmb releases.
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    Old 10-19-2022, 08:20 AM   #103
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    I listened to some of the tape. This seems like mostly a "teh energiez" release
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    By itself, yes.

    1-7, 35, 58, 62 as a bundle? All colors?
    I don't know many people who would/could buy all DMB LTs in a bundle.

    Don't get me wrong, there is huge value for the earlier and sought after pressings of DMB stuff. But adding LT62 isn't going to be a big value driver, individually OR to the whole of a collection.

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    Speaking of the Hollywood Bowl release, I listened to it recently. It's funny how much autotune they used on it, especially Sledgehammer lol
    I wish they'd have autotuned the entire song out
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    Old 10-19-2022, 09:36 AM   #105
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    I don't know many people who would/could buy all DMB LTs in a bundle.

    Don't get me wrong, there is huge value for the earlier and sought after pressings of DMB stuff. But adding LT62 isn't going to be a big value driver, individually OR to the whole of a collection.


    I wish they'd have autotuned the entire song out
    It's wild how much most of the DMBLive vinyl releases go for vs their original $35 price tag.
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    Old 10-19-2022, 10:40 AM   #106
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 62: Blossom Music Center 6.25.2010

    I stewed on this for a day to see if it would change my feelings. I still can't stand a few songs like Eh Hee, Seven, Stand Up, Squirm is meh and we have a thousand Nancies > WH releases. But the good songs on there are strong and I'm looking forward to hearing them. Still a bottom of the barrel release, but I'm hoping to be surprised when it gets here.
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    Old 10-19-2022, 12:11 PM   #107
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    Looks good. Good show. Good SDL. Will be buying the vinyl.

    What is your + / - rating for the show?
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    Old 10-19-2022, 12:15 PM   #108
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    I'll eventually buy the CD. Basically the Little Red Bird is one of maybe 2 songs that excite me about this release. Glad we got a full Stand Up (For It) on LT61.
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    I listened to some of the tape. This seems like mostly a "teh energiez" release
    I feel this is how I'd feel if they released the 2009 Vanderbilt show. It's still one of my fondest shows because the energy really was incredible but the set is incredibly bland.

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    What is your + / - rating for the show?
    You didn't ask me but I was a -5
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    Old 10-19-2022, 12:27 PM   #110
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    You didn't ask me but I was a -5

    +2 for me but the sound from that era bothers me more than setlists, granted it's a year earlier than this release but the '09 SPAC N2 encore was incredible to be at, listening back now Tim is so annoying. Maybe that's being negative but the things that annoy me from that time have turned into things I really appreciate with the current lineup.
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    Old 10-19-2022, 01:12 PM   #111
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    2023 is coming so does this mean CP remastered?
    It is frustrating that there is already an HD master of this, and they still haven't bothered to put out a Blu-ray.

    I would gladly upgrade my DVD to BD.

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    It's been a long time since DMB has released a Blu-ray, isn't it? Have any bands released DVDs/Blu-Rays in the last few years? I suspect not enough people want to buy the Blu-ray to justify the extra expense of editing/syncing the video. My guess is that DMB is hoping to convince a streaming service to pay to host videos of their live performances (e.g. Netflix having 30 live DMB shows available to stream), rather than continuing to sell directly to the consumer.

    What we all need to do is go listen to the audience recording of this show, and judge it on that, rather than the setlist. Maybe the show is better than we expect? (I haven't listened to the tape, so I don't know).
    They're doing their video stuff in house with Filament, so they're likely paying a fraction of what a large record label release would be.

    But yeah, there are lots of good live releases still coming out - even a couple on 4K Ultra HD like Clapton's lockdown sessions and the stunning 1991 Wembley show by INXS...highly recommend both (BD versions exist too).
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    Old 10-19-2022, 01:13 PM   #112
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 62: Blossom Music Center 6.25.2010

    Thankfully we missed a Danny Barnes "Road" bullet here.
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    Old 10-19-2022, 05:09 PM   #113
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    So…if you were at the show you are happy but otherwise no one cares (in general, not literally…but almost literally).
    This is basically why I was happy to see it. I was there on the rail and took my dad; the only show we've ever attended together. If I wasn't, I'd go back and forth from a collection perspective and probably pull the trigger but wouldn't have jumped all over it.
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    What is your + / - rating for the show?
    Big Eyed Fish +1
    Grace Is Gone +2
    Seven +2
    Stay or Leave +3
    Don't Drink the Water +4
    #41 +5
    Stand Up / Corn Bread / Recently medley +5
    Squirm +6
    Eh Hee +7
    Shake Me Like a Monkey +6
    You & Me +5
    Dancing Nancies +6
    Warehouse +7
    Can't Stop +6
    Corn Bread +6
    Ants Marching +7
    - - -
    Little Red Bird +8
    So Right +9
    So Damn Lucky +10
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    Big Eyed Fish +1
    Grace Is Gone +2
    Seven +2
    Stay or Leave +3
    Don't Drink the Water +4
    #41 +5
    Stand Up / Corn Bread / Recently medley +5
    Squirm +6
    Eh Hee +7
    Shake Me Like a Monkey +6
    You & Me +5
    Dancing Nancies +6
    Warehouse +7
    Can't Stop +6
    Corn Bread +6
    Ants Marching +7
    - - -
    Little Red Bird +8
    So Right +9
    So Damn Lucky +10
    another 2010 heavy tim on electric release: -50
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    Old 10-19-2022, 06:55 PM   #116
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    Big Eyed Fish +1 - already have
    Grace Is Gone +2 - already have
    Seven +2 - have way too many
    Stay or Leave +3 - insignificant in 2009
    Don't Drink the Water +4 - too fast and too heavy
    #41 +5 - too long, already have
    Stand Up / Corn Bread / Recently medley +5 - already have
    Squirm +6 - too much screaming for 09, 2021 & 22 is great
    Eh Hee +7 - no need for another release
    Shake Me Like a Monkey +6 - NEVER need another release
    You & Me +5 - already have, actually nice to hear this year
    Dancing Nancies +6 - already have
    Warehouse +7 - already have, no need for another
    Can't Stop +6 - why...
    Corn Bread +6 - no
    Ants Marching +7 - already have
    - - -
    Little Red Bird +8 - already have
    So Right +9 - possibly could use, but really no need with 2013
    So Damn Lucky +10
    - already have, no need for more.

    again, -50
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    I don't know many people who would/could buy all DMB LTs in a bundle.

    Don't get me wrong, there is huge value for the earlier and sought after pressings of DMB stuff. But adding LT62 isn't going to be a big value driver, individually OR to the whole of a collection.


    I wish they'd have autotuned the entire song out
    I’m amazed at how cheap LT58 is.
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    I’m amazed at how cheap LT58 is.
    The cheapest copy on Discogs is $95 plus shipping
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    Old 10-20-2022, 06:50 AM   #119
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    Just surprised it isn’t higher than that
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 62: Blossom Music Center 6.25.2010

    While this is certainly not the best choice, I do really like LT 22 so if it sounds somewhat similar that, I'll likely enjoy it. However, I hope there is enough to differentiate the two shows to make it worth having both.
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