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Old 08-13-2018, 11:49 AM   #96361
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Seems really bad. Have to wonder if she was able to do it, who else was?

That's an huge security breach issue.
because it is all one big reality show
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    https://twitter.com/allahpundit/stat...446714882?s=21

    Dont cha call em socialists tho
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    Old 08-13-2018, 11:54 AM   #96363
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    You would think she at least would have to have a maralargo membership to get that level access.
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    Curious why Kelly brought her into the Situation Room for a simple firing in the first place. Why not his office? Did he know of her habit of recording and thought she would not in the Sit Room? She called his bluff if so.
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    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/39...ns-than-pelosi

    https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/vid...-1278817347818

    Dontcha call em dictator sympathizers tho
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    Old 08-13-2018, 11:58 AM   #96366
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    It’s good to have learned that Jews should have just not been in the wrong spot at the wrong time and all that holocausting wasn’t because of any kind of hatred.
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    25% and 19%. Still a big minority
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    25% and 19%. Still a big minority
    Hang your hat on that!
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    Old 08-13-2018, 12:05 PM   #96369
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    Re: ** The Trump Thread SAFE SPACE ** (NO Personal Attacks; NO Trolling)

    President Good Brain.

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    Several times in the first year of his administration, President Donald Trump wanted to call Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in the middle of the afternoon. But there was a problem. Midafternoon in Washington is the middle of the night in Tokyo — when Abe would be fast asleep.

    Trump’s aides had to explain the issue, which one diplomatic source said came up on “a constant basis,” but it wasn’t easy.

    “He wasn’t great with recognizing that the leader of a country might be 80 or 85 years old and isn’t going to be awake or in the right place at 10:30 or 11 p.m. their time,” said a former Trump NSC official. “When he wants to call someone, he wants to call someone. He’s more impulsive that way. He doesn’t think about what time it is or who it is,” added a person close to Trump.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...lomatic-774801
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    More like President asshole.

    I know people like this. Calling me at 8am local time in the UK...when it's 3am here. Or west coasters calling me at 4:30pm on a Friday in their time zone - 7:30pm on my weekend.

    Fuck that noise, those people are just douche bags.
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    Old 08-13-2018, 12:11 PM   #96371
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    Solid deflection
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    Old 08-13-2018, 12:20 PM   #96372
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    Awkward

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    Yet another federal judge on Monday issued an opinion upholding Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s authority — this one, for the first time, coming from a judge appointed by President Donald Trump, who has dubbed Mueller’s probe a “witch hunt.”

    U.S. District Judge Dabney Friedrich denied the request by a Russian firm, accused of funding the Russian social media troll effort, to throw out Mueller’s case against it.

    Her opinion said that the Supreme Court and D.C. Appeals Court had made clear that that the acting attorney general had the authority to appoint a special counsel.
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckra...ller-authority
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    Solid deflection
    The point is that you can't just take a poll result like this and paint with the enormous brush Shotty would like to (or that you seemingly have in the past). I don't truly believe that Shotty would actually put pen to paper and pick Kim Jong-Un in an A vs B choice.

    Here's the poll itself: https://news.gallup.com/poll/240770/...&g_medium=copy

    It isn't even the highest favorability overall that socialism has received (it was higher in 2012). Second, it wasn't an either/or question, asking which a respondent prefers to the other.

    Trying to use this poll to equate a majority of Dems as socialists is ignorant of how to read a poll.

    As the Gallup follow-up article notes: https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/...apitalism.aspx

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    A majority of Democrats have viewed socialism positively each time Gallup has measured the concept since 2010, and -- despite the increased visibility given to the concept this year -- those views have not changed substantively
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    Old 08-13-2018, 12:36 PM   #96374
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    The point is that you can't just take a poll result like this and paint with the enormous brush Shotty would like to (or that you seemingly have in the past). I don't truly believe that Shotty would actually put pen to paper and pick Kim Jong-Un in an A vs B choice.

    Here's the poll itself: https://news.gallup.com/poll/240770/...&g_medium=copy

    It isn't even the highest favorability overall that socialism has received (it was higher in 2012). Second, it wasn't an either/or question, asking which a respondent prefers to the other.

    Trying to use this poll to equate a majority of Dems as socialists is ignorant of how to read a poll.

    As the Gallup follow-up article notes: https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/...apitalism.aspx
    The fact that the % of democrats who view socialism positively hasnít changed much since 2016 (not 2012 like you said) isnít that relevant. The fact that almost 60% view it favorably and now a significant % view it favorably compared to those same figures for capitalism is relevant because the former seems high (to me anyways) and the latter is a change.

    Just find it funny that above the fray, calling out whataboutism baboon instantly deflects to polls about the GOP when someone mentions democrats positive inclinations toward socialism and their growing antipathy towards capitalism.
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    Old 08-13-2018, 12:42 PM   #96375
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    This is what happens when the right votes in the single most inept human being to ever be President.

    As in physics, it's basic human nature. Every action has an opposite and equal reaction.

    Putting someone this dumb in charge is going to have a similar and opposite reaction. Hopefully we don't go full dumb with our nominee...
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    Re: ** The Trump Thread SAFE SPACE ** (NO Personal Attacks; NO Trolling)

    Putting aside the fact that people color in their own meaning of these terms if not presented with a definition:

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    The question wording does not define "socialism" or "capitalism" but simply asks respondents whether their opinion of each is positive or negative.
    Many 'conservatives' are big fans of socialist US policies like Social Security, Medicare, public schools, public emergency services, public defense, roads and infrastructure. Stop the presses!

    Maybe if capitalism (a similarly imprecise broad brush term as socialism) were working to improve the economic situations of as many everyday people as it does for the ultra-wealthy in this country the term wouldn't be falling in favor.
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    Old 08-13-2018, 12:44 PM   #96377
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    The fact that the % of democrats who view socialism positively hasnít changed much since 2016 (not 2012 like you said) isnít that relevant. The fact that almost 60% view it favorably and now a significant % view it favorably compared to those same figures for capitalism is relevant because the former seems high (to me anyways) and the latter is a change.
    I was referring to the overall (all responses). As you can see in the graph included in the gallup article:

    https://content.gallup.com/origin/ga...aoizdj9rnw.png

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    Just find it funny that above the fray, calling out whataboutism baboon instantly deflects to polls about the GOP when someone mentions democrats positive inclinations toward socialism and their growing antipathy towards capitalism.
    I'm sorry, but if I had to respond to everything Shotty posted in an "above the fray" way; I wouldn't be able to have nearly as much fun here as I do

    Again, my intention wasn't to deflect as much as just show how nonsensical it is to broadly paint over a poll like this one (or the ones I posted). Maybe I did that poorly, I ain't perfect
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    Old 08-13-2018, 12:45 PM   #96378
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    https://twitter.com/markhoppus/statu...323488769?s=21

    Mark Hoppus nailed it
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    Man, blink-182 used to be so awesome.

    Then Tom went nuts and ruined everything.
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    Are rich people more likely to lie, cheat, steal?

    Yeah, actually. https://t.co/PkLahcj94Y

    Bootstraps?
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    Capitalism has already improved the conditions of mankind immeasurably and will continue to do so
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    Man, blink-182 used to be so awesome.

    Then Tom went nuts and ruined everything.
    Well yeah they stink now with Skiba

    but Tom is about to blow the lid off all the UFO cover-ups!
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    Capitalism has already improved the conditions of mankind immeasurably and will continue to do so
    I don't think anyone (of sane mind) would disagree. Especially on the first part of that sentence.

    The question going forward is seeking the most optimal system to ensure proper distribution of gains so that the US can maintain its position at the top in many economic categories. The current trajectory indicates we probably have to make a change. We don't have true capitalism, we don't have terribly much socialism. We have a good deal of cronyism. The current blend is putting us behind or setting us up for failure.

    I don't have the know-how to do the type of analysis needed (and maybe there isn't enough hard data and only trial by error can determine what is best), but it isn't shocking to see Americans look elsewhere for answers. That doesn't mean the left suddenly wants to be 1930's Germany socialist though.
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    Capitalism has already improved the conditions of mankind immeasurably and will continue to do so
    Sure, that doesn't mean it's this infallible thing we need to worship without ever thinking it needs reining in, as your ilk seem to do.
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    Well yeah they stink now with Skiba

    but Tom is about to blow the lid off all the UFO cover-ups!
    They sucked even when Tom briefly came back. That band died with their hiatus following their Untitled album.

    That run from Dude Ranch, Enema, TOYPAJ, and Untitled is a vastly underrated studio run though. Few bands ever put out 4 consecutive big hitters like that
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    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...der-10-minutes


    The problem is MILLIONS of illegal voters though...
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    Capitalism has already improved the conditions of mankind immeasurably and will continue to do so
    I agree. As do the intermingled socialistic elements of our society. They live side by side in harmony mostly. All that's being debated in America right now is tilting the scale towards a few more socialistic policies since the current set-up is leaving many feeling very squeezed. The sky is not falling all you Chicken Littles.
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    They sucked even when Tom briefly came back. That band died with their hiatus following their Untitled album.

    That run from Dude Ranch, Enema, TOYPAJ, and Untitled is a vastly underrated studio run though. Few bands ever put out 4 consecutive big hitters like that
    lol yeah. I saw them during that come back and it was just Mark making fun of Tom and his "space stuff" but they were still fun. With Skiba it just felt fake...wouldn't go again
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    Putting aside the fact that people color in their own meaning of these terms if not presented with a definition:



    Many 'conservatives' are big fans of socialist US policies like Social Security, Medicare, public schools, public emergency services, public defense, roads and infrastructure. Stop the presses!

    Maybe if capitalism (a similarly imprecise broad brush term as socialism) were working to improve the economic situations of as many everyday people as it does for the ultra-wealthy in this country the term wouldn't be falling in favor.
    nailed it.

    In the end, we're a mixed capitalist economy...which is significantly different from pure capitalism.
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    Mixed Capitalism has already improved the conditions of mankind immeasurably and will continue to do so
    Totally agree with edited version above.

    we just need to optimize the "mixed" part a little better
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