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Old 12-09-2014, 05:49 PM   #121
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We'll let you know if Adnan is killed and their are riots in the street
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    Sounds like Adnan wrote Sarah an 18 page love letter
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    Old 12-11-2014, 10:52 AM   #123
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    is today's episode out already?
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    Old 12-11-2014, 10:59 AM   #124
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    the alvin and the chipmunks kickball story really shed a lot of light on the case
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    Old 12-11-2014, 03:00 PM   #125
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    Just listened through over the last three days. My two cents:

    Adnan did it and is either a sociopath (doesn't seem like it) or had a psychological disconnect after everything happened. Almost like he blacked out and doesn't even know what happened that day. His mind erased everything that happened and he truly believes that he didn't do it.

    From the get go, its clear that everything about that day is a vague memory and he can't explain what he was up to. Assuming he's innocent, there were enough strange events that day like being called by the cops and finding out your ex girlfriend was missing that you'd probably be hard pressed to remember where you were and what you were doing.

    Like Sarah said before, what person gets a call like that and doesn't try to learn more or help out? A quick phone call to her at the very least.

    As fishy as Jay's story is, there was no motive for him to kill her. He was involved, but he didn't do it.

    And Adnan's lawyer f'd up bad. That didn't help him.

    Any lawyer's on here that have listened, I'd like to hear your opinions?
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    Old 12-11-2014, 03:08 PM   #126
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    Not much to that episode.

    Some rumors, that she doesn't share, turned out to be just rumors.

    Cool story.
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    Old 12-11-2014, 03:13 PM   #127
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    Not much to that episode.

    Some rumors, that she doesn't share, turned out to be just rumors.

    Cool story.
    Is she running out of material?
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    Old 12-11-2014, 06:57 PM   #128
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    Studying psychology now, this episode interested me. Ready for this season to end and hope the next one is as captivating.
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    Old 12-11-2014, 07:22 PM   #129
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    His letter to her was odd. He has to watch his words because he's worried about people thinking he is manipulative? That seems like something someone who is manipulative would say.
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    Old 12-11-2014, 07:46 PM   #130
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    What makes me curious is what does Adnan have to lose at this point? He's in for life plus 30 years, can't get much worse than that. Does he think perhaps this podcast could lead to reopening the case and be his ticket out of jail?

    Just is weird that he feels that he needs to be so calculated with every word he's had with SK. If he didn't do it, he didn't do it. There shouldn't be too much to think about.

    It would be really interesting to know what kind of deal Jay got from the state for cooperating. I know he got 2 years probation and no jail time, but it seems like there were some conversations held about his involvement that didn't come to the surface on the record during the trial.
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    Old 12-11-2014, 08:01 PM   #131
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    What makes me curious is what does Adnan have to lose at this point? He's in for life plus 30 years, can't get much worse than that. Does he think perhaps this podcast could lead to reopening the case and be his ticket out of jail?

    Just is weird that he feels that he needs to be so calculated with every word he's had with SK. If he didn't do it, he didn't do it. There shouldn't be too much to think about.


    It would be really interesting to know what kind of deal Jay got from the state for cooperating. I know he got 2 years probation and no jail time, but it seems like there were some conversations held about his involvement that didn't come to the surface on the record during the trial.
    I would love to learn more about Jay. I've heard people argue that since Jay won't even be interviewed by Sarah, he must be a liar.

    But, Jay has WAY more to lose by being part of the podcast than Adnan does, of course he's not going to be interviewed.
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    I don't think he's a liar because he won't talk on the podcast. I think he's a a liar because he's a liar.
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    Old 12-11-2014, 10:00 PM   #133
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    What if Adnan hired Jay to kill Hae? It might make sense as to why neither of their stories add up. It gives Jay a motive. Maybe Jay didn't get paid or felt the squeeze from the police and made up a story that blamed Adnan. Adnan would be able to sit in prison and honestly say, "I didn't kill Hae" and "Jay is a liar, it didn't happen the way he says it happened."

    I don't know. The full truth will never come out unless Adnan finally breaks down. I hope Sarah has some sort of Big Reveal in the final episode.
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    What if Adnan hired Jay to kill Hae? It might make sense as to why neither of their stories add up. It gives Jay a motive. Maybe Jay didn't get paid or felt the squeeze from the police and made up a story that blamed Adnan. Adnan would be able to sit in prison and honestly say, "I didn't kill Hae" and "Jay is a liar, it didn't happen the way he says it happened."

    I don't know. The full truth will never come out unless Adnan finally breaks down. I hope Sarah has some sort of Big Reveal in the final episode.
    just listened on the drive home.

    to the bold: with all that thousands of mosque money!!!!
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    No I have to suppress so many stereotypes when I hear old Arab men talking about money.
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    Old 12-12-2014, 01:10 AM   #136
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    this theory may have been posted here at some point (havent read previous pages). I thought it was interesting. Just because, you try and think of some scenario where there is an explainable motive. Odds are it's wrong but its just fun to speculate i guess

    http://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcas...ally_involved/
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    this theory may have been posted here at some point (havent read previous pages). I thought it was interesting. Just because, you try and think of some scenario where there is an explainable motive. Odds are it's wrong but its just fun to speculate i guess

    http://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcas...ally_involved/
    Yea, that theory has been out for a while, and as crazy as it sounds, there miiiight be something to it. I mentioned this before, but the weirdest part of this whole thing in regard to Adnan is how he says they weren't friends, yet they smoked and drove around all the time, according to basically every witness. How is that person not your friend?

    It also plays into why Jay would even come forward as being involved. If Adnan WAS innocent, why would Jay implicate himself as an accessory basically? Just to seem more real, and then pray to be offered a deal or something? Seems risky. So there had to have been some involvement.
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    Yea, that theory has been out for a while, and as crazy as it sounds, there miiiight be something to it. I mentioned this before, but the weirdest part of this whole thing in regard to Adnan is how he says they weren't friends, yet they smoked and drove around all the time, according to basically every witness. How is that person not your friend?

    It also plays into why Jay would even come forward as being involved. If Adnan WAS innocent, why would Jay implicate himself as an accessory basically? Just to seem more real, and then pray to be offered a deal or something? Seems risky. So there had to have been some involvement.
    Not sure I buy the theory, but i agree that one of the most peculiar parts of this whole thing is how much Adnan tries to distance himself from Jay. He's either doing it strategically and lying or he just has a warped view of friendships (which doesn't seem to be the case).

    Like you said, these guys smoked weed with each other on the reg, Adnan lent Jay his car and phone frequently it seems, Jay picked up Adnan from school/track practice very regularly; and despite all of this, Adnan acts like Jay is just somebody that he knew in passing and was an acquaintance or a friend of a friend.

    It just seems like Adnan is deliberately trying to downplay his relationship with a guy that considers himself the "criminal element" of that area. Not that I blame him in this case, but regardless of how close you were with this guy, it doesn't make any sense in terms of backing up your story.
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    Old 12-12-2014, 09:16 AM   #139
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    Jay was likely Adnans pot dealer. Who's good friends with their dealer?
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    yesterday's episode was pretty terrible

    hope there's material for the last one, but you'd think they've had at least something on retainer for a while
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    Old 12-12-2014, 09:19 AM   #141
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    Yea I think this story could have been condensed to 10 sodes
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    Old 12-12-2014, 09:20 AM   #142
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    yep, cut out yesterday's and the one that has a lot of adnan talking and you're there
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    Old 12-12-2014, 09:26 AM   #143
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    yep, cut out yesterday's and the one that has a lot of adnan talking and you're there
    I was thinking get rid of the segment where they timed themselves driving from the school to best buy

    that was useless
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    SK ran through the email and her opinions on it, she had to think more after all that that he did it

    he hates more that people think he's manipulative than that he strangled someone to death? probably because he actually did strangle someone to death
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    Is that a thing? Because it should not be.
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    Too late beefy. It's a thing
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    What makes me curious is what does Adnan have to lose at this point? He's in for life plus 30 years, can't get much worse than that. Does he think perhaps this podcast could lead to reopening the case and be his ticket out of jail?

    Just is weird that he feels that he needs to be so calculated with every word he's had with SK. If he didn't do it, he didn't do it. There shouldn't be too much to think about.

    .
    You realize its going to appeals court right? Trying for post conviction relief.

    In this last episode, she clearly explained why he has to watch what he says.

    I dont understand the hate behind this last episode....it hit on many aspects of the psychological basis behind crimes like this.
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    You realize its going to appeals court right? Trying for post conviction relief.

    In this last episode, she clearly explained why he has to watch what he says.

    I dont understand the hate behind this last episode....it hit on many aspects of the psychological basis behind crimes like this.
    honestly, because the expert guy came off like he was making stuff up as he went along and SK spent the whole episode trying to feign interest in what people were saying, especially the guy from the community
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    You realize its going to appeals court right? Trying for post conviction relief.

    In this last episode, she clearly explained why he has to watch what he says.

    I dont understand the hate behind this last episode....it hit on many aspects of the psychological basis behind crimes like this.

    The rumors part was the terrible part.

    The psych part was somewhat interesting but had little to do with the actual case because the guy had never talked to Adnan, so he couldn't speculate. We were left with SK speculating and trying to relate his generalities to this case.

    The whole episode added little to nothing to the story. It just seems like they've reached the bottom of the barrel. Hopefully she held something back for the last one and we get more than just summary and her closing thoughts.
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