Sexual Abuse/Harassment Thread

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

does quid quo pro apply here?

I learned what this meant from a cartoon movie.

What do you mean though?

[daveshookme]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

They're trying to give Roy Moore a pass on sexual harassment. Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler: "...take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.”

Uhhh what

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0e37d2f366dba

so, Roy Moore is basically God?

[daveshookme]

Originally Posted by scrock25

I learned what this meant from a cartoon movie.

What do you mean though?

........

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

does quid quo pro fall under this topic

[dmbetc]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

They're trying to give Roy Moore a pass on sexual harassment. Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler: "...take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.”

Uhhh what

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0e37d2f366dba

wow. This is sickening

[ExistenceNow]

My Grandmother (mom's mom) got married at 14.

Can you even imagine?

[cazzie34]

https://twitter.com/lizmeriwether/st...57120769523712

“And he has one encounter with a 14 year old—“
“And it was consensual—“
“And it was consensual, that’s true.” —Sean Hannity, USA, 2017

So there's that.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

https://twitter.com/lizmeriwether/st...57120769523712

“And he has one encounter with a 14 year old—“
“And it was consensual—“
“And it was consensual, that’s true.” —Sean Hannity, USA, 2017

So there's that.

It's only statutory rape, Cazz, not real rape. Geez. This is a witch hunt.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by scrock25

I would actually really like to hear Feldman’s whole story.

In case you or others haven't seen this.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/c...uth-campaign#/

Not the whole story but gives hints in his own words.

Painful to watch, and bizarre.

[GSUdawg521]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

https://twitter.com/lizmeriwether/st...57120769523712

“And he has one encounter with a 14 year old—“
“And it was consensual—“
“And it was consensual, that’s true.” —Sean Hannity, USA, 2017

So there's that.

What I read didn't sound consensual.

Agreeing to go on the date (before getting assaulted) isn't giving consent.

[thebridge15]

can we move senator Moore's sexual assault discussion to the trump thread

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by GSUdawg521

What I read didn't sound consensual.

Agreeing to go on the date (before getting assaulted) isn't giving consent.

i dint click the link

but hell no, its not giving consent. i dont see how a date alone could ever be consent.

[bbqguy1962]

Originally Posted by scrock25

I would actually really like to hear Feldman’s whole story.

I'd like him to find peace and have the people who need to be punished get what they deserve. If that could happen without me hearing what actually happened would be okay with me. He certainly appears to be very damaged person who has lost a great deal.

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

can we move senator Moore's sexual assault discussion to the trump thread

No. And come back.

[GSUdawg521]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

can we move senator Moore's sexual assault discussion to the trump thread

Yeahhh about that

[smokew11]

Hannity's whole schtick tonight is to bring up every single democrat or or hollywood member thats been accused of sexual harrassment

[recentlyJTR41]

Wonder if Salon will publish an article defending Moore? Ya know since they seem to be into that kinda thing.

[MDPrompter]

It may be time to boycott any company headquartered in Alabama.

[GSUdawg521]

Saw on Twitter. Appropriate.

2016: all your favorite celebrities are dead

2017: all your favorite celebrities are dead to you

[GSUdawg521]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

It may be time to boycott any company headquartered in Alabama.

Does Auburn University count? I'm boycotting as of now

[daveshookme]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

Wonder if Salon will publish an article defending Moore? Ya know since they seem to be into that kinda thing.

Moore sent out an email basically saying "I'm innocent, donate money to me so I can fight back against these allegations" so probably.

[cry_minarets458]

Originally Posted by daveshookme

........

Originally Posted by scrock25

I learned what this meant from a cartoon movie.



What do you mean though?

It was a reference to another thread but both questions posed really haven't been discussed. It is what it is

[neumdogg]

I started this thread so I don't really want to re-tell my stories: https://www.antsmarching.org/forum/s...d.php?t=343966

I have to admit...these stories have brought up some shitty fucking memories. Luckily, I don't get PTSD with this kind of stuff.

However, the one thing this is doing for me is giving me a feeling of satisfaction. Satisfaction that these fuckers are finally getting caught and/or called out. Male or female, this shit fucking sucks.

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by GSUdawg521

Does Auburn University count? I'm boycotting as of now

Auburn is in West Georgia!

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by smokew11

Hannity's whole schtick tonight is to bring up every single democrat or or hollywood member thats been accused of sexual harrassment

I'm sure bill o'reilly was included

Originally Posted by cazzie34

No. And come back.

likely not

[GSUdawg521]

CK released a statement owning up to everything and apologizing. Doesn't excuse it or make it better whatsoever, but one of the best responses to this kind of thing we've seen recently -- not denying, deflecting, or trying to share the blame with someone or something else.

"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my d**k without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your d**k isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.

"I have been remorseful of my actions. And I've tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I'm aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position.

I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.

"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.

"I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work.

"The hardest regret to live with is what you've done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them.

"I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen."

Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

[kydmb99]

Yeah owning up to being a pervert and admitting it definitely a better look than blaming Jeff Bezos

[mthawk07]

Originally Posted by GSUdawg521

CK released a statement owning up to everything and apologizing. Doesn't excuse it or make it better whatsoever, but one of the best responses to this kind of thing we've seen recently -- not denying, deflecting, or trying to share the blame with someone or something else.

"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my d**k without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your d**k isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.

"I have been remorseful of my actions. And I've tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I'm aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position.

I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.

"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.

"I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work.

"The hardest regret to live with is what you've done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them.

"I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen."

Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

Good for him. I instantly respect someone more if they own up the way he did. You can't change the past or what you've done, but working towards making it right or at the very least making amends is always respectable.

[dmbetc]

I can respect his statement.

[YouNeverKnow25]

it would have been nice if he owned up to how he threatened to end people's careers if they talked about it

that's a little different than "oh, I just realized now how much it must have affected these women"

[Rodey]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

it would have been nice if he owned up to how he threatened to end people's careers if they talked about it

that's a little different than "oh, I just realized now how much it must have affected these women"

Did he do this? Honestly asking, haven't really followed the story.