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Old 09-16-2022, 04:33 PM   #1
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Ranking the DMB Venues

So, having done some travel this summer to see the band, and keeping up with the various threads on this board, I am led to ask a question: how do we rank the various venues in terms of where you "need" to see the band?

Ants Marching has the big three as Gorge, Alpine, and SPAC. Obviously Red Rocks is a huge part of the band's lore, but it feels like a full band show there at this point is a long shot. I definitely know there is significant affection for Deer Creek and Jones Beach. Have heard good things about Houston and West Palm. Obviously MSG and JPJ for fall tour/indoor venues are highly regarded.

So... give me your top DMB venues that a true fan wouldn't want to miss. (This may or may not be for my future road trip planning).
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    there's.....affection(?!?!) for jones beach??? that venue sucks ass and gets terrible shows; I don't think there's any affection there
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    Old 09-16-2022, 04:38 PM   #3
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    my personal top 5:

    gorge
    spac
    msg
    alpine
    deer creek
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    Old 09-16-2022, 04:41 PM   #4
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    there's.....affection(?!?!) for jones beach??? that venue sucks ass and gets terrible shows; I don't think there's any affection there
    I have no personal animus for it... though in fairness I have no affection either - I've never been there. It does appear on some top 10 lists though. See, e.g. May 6, 2016 issue of Rolling Stone "The 10 Best Venues to See Dave Matthews Band in the US." But, no personal investment - if Jones Beach sucks, it sucks.
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    Old 09-16-2022, 04:56 PM   #5
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    I have no personal animus for it... though in fairness I have no affection either - I've never been there. It does appear on some top 10 lists though. See, e.g. May 6, 2016 issue of Rolling Stone "The 10 Best Venues to See Dave Matthews Band in the US." But, no personal investment - if Jones Beach sucks, it sucks.
    Oh boy venue wars. This could get ugly lol.
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    Old 09-16-2022, 05:07 PM   #6
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Best venue - Gorge
    Best place to see them - SPAC, assuming seats
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    Old 09-16-2022, 05:43 PM   #7
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Jones Beach has a few really strong positives like no lawn, all seats having a good view, on the water, nice view...but the negatives tend to outweigh the positives...located on its own. Tough for public transit and ubers/cabs, sound is generally pretty bad b/c the wind coming off the water picks it up, and at least for DMB, the weather is usually terrible.

    Ranking the venues the band either consistently plays or has played recently, that I've been to:

    SPAC (by a pretty significant margin)
    MSG
    Gorge
    Credit One (Charleston - great great venue)
    Merriweather (another great venue)
    Charlotte/Raleigh (tied)
    Hartford/Bristow (tied - they are super similar to me)
    Camden
    Jones Beach
    Holmdel
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    Old 09-16-2022, 08:12 PM   #8
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    So SPAC is a great for the 5,000 people in the pavilion but not the 20,000 in the lawn? To me, that kind of eliminates it. I realize it gets 2 night stands and great set lists, but a great venue should be great for a majority of those in attendance.
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    Old 09-16-2022, 11:18 PM   #9
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Google an image of the SPAC logo. Is it weird how similar it is to the DMB logo?

    (Gorge would be my answer to your question)
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    Old 09-18-2022, 12:09 PM   #10
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Venue Wars 2022!!!!

    I love talking venues! Here are my venue rankings, of the ones I've been to, after 90 shows. Need to hit more of the 1 night stands.

    1. Gorge
    2. Alpine
    3. SPAC
    4. Deer Creek
    5. WPB
    6. Camden
    7. Pittsburgh
    8. Southhaven
    9. Charlotte
    10. Raleigh
    11. Bristow
    12. Hartford
    13. Dallas
    14. St. Louis

    -100: Northerly Island LOL!

    Mexico is amazing but since it's just D&T I didn't include same with other D&T venues I've been to.

    Also, didn't include Vegas from 2020 or festival venues.
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    Old 09-18-2022, 06:13 PM   #11
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    Saratoga Performing Arts Center.
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    Old 09-18-2022, 07:17 PM   #12
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    So SPAC is a great for the 5,000 people in the pavilion but not the 20,000 in the lawn? To me, that kind of eliminates it. I realize it gets 2 night stands and great set lists, but a great venue should be great for a majority of those in attendance.
    And I can find a downfall to any venue thatís not ideal for the majority
    Gorge, wind and phasing issues of sound
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    Old 09-19-2022, 07:22 AM   #13
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Camden is consistently underrated. Beautiful scenery, good vibe, consistently solid shows, nice walk by the river to get there, a small sense of impending doom leaving the show at night. It’s not the top venue by any means, that obviously goes to Gorge/SPAC/MSG, but it’s definitely top 12.

    Holmdel sucks.
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    Old 09-19-2022, 11:55 AM   #14
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Gilford needs some love in this thread
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    Old 09-19-2022, 12:26 PM   #15
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Anybody who doesnt put Gorge as the #1 (and its not even particularly close to the 2nd spot, regardless of where that may be) is delusional.
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    Old 09-19-2022, 12:31 PM   #16
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    Anybody who doesnt put Gorge as the #1 (and its not even particularly close to the 2nd spot, regardless of where that may be) is delusional.
    Your delusional for thinking everyone needs to agree with you.
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Of the "major" ones I've been to

    1 Alpine
    2 Deer Creek
    3 WPB
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    Old 09-19-2022, 02:09 PM   #18
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    Gilford needs some love in this thread
    Shhhh.....don't mention Gilford.
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    Old 09-19-2022, 02:24 PM   #19
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    Gilford is the worse venue I have ever been to and I advise nobody to go to shows there
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    Old 09-19-2022, 02:33 PM   #20
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Of the venues I've been to:

    Greek Theater - Berkeley
    Shoreline
    Chase Center
    Golden One Center
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    Gilford is the worse venue I have ever been to and I advise nobody to go to shows there

    I agree I am highly intoxicated lol been drinking all day Gilford is brutal stay far away lol
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    The Gorge
    Deer Creek
    WPB

    I really don't enjoy SPAC, just being honest.
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    And I can find a downfall to any venue thatís not ideal for the majority
    Gorge, wind and phasing issues of sound

    There's a difference between "it can be windy which effects the sound" and "the lawn is bad enough that you better be in the pavilion to enjoy the show at all."
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    I was in the pavillion both nights at SPAC this year and both nights I got vomitted on. Really ruined it for me this year with so many people overdoing it - even IN the amphitheater.
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    Google an image of the SPAC logo. Is it weird how similar it is to the DMB logo?

    (Gorge would be my answer to your question)
    SPAC is the summer home for the NYC Ballet. Hence the stylized dancer in their logo.
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    It's The Gorge. Everything else is just slotting opinions.
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    Anybody who doesnt put Gorge as the #1 (and its not even particularly close to the 2nd spot, regardless of where that may be) is delusional.
    Been to Gorge and others, not delusional. Gorge has a view. I'll take everything else at SPAC and MSG over it. And MSG has the best city in the world, and some views of its own.

    Don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate the Gorge, and I totally get why people put it at the top...it's just not at the top for me, and that doesn't make me delusional.

    If ALL we are taking into account is the venue (not the crowd, surrounding area, etc.), then yes, I agree Gorge. But that doesn't seem to be the case here.

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    SPAC is the summer home for the NYC Ballet. Hence the stylized dancer in their logo.
    Ahhh. Thanks for this
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    Re: Ranking the DMB Venues

    Of 77 I have been to here are my top 5(Never been to SPAC):

    1) Red Rocks
    2) The Gorge
    3) Ameris/Verizon Amp in Alpharetta
    4) West Palm Beach
    5) Raleigh
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    Been to Gorge and others, not delusional. Gorge has a view. I'll take everything else at SPAC and MSG over it. And MSG has the best city in the world, and some views of its own.

    Don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate the Gorge, and I totally get why people put it at the top...it's just not at the top for me, and that doesn't make me delusional.

    If ALL we are taking into account is the venue (not the crowd, surrounding area, etc.), then yes, I agree Gorge. But that doesn't seem to be the case here.
    Thanks for this perspective. To be candid, why I brought this up (aside from the "tour is winding down" banter) is because I have been to Gorge and Alpine now, and am shooting for SPAC next year, but kind of wanted to establish what other venues should be on my list to check out in shorter order. I hope the band tours forever (and I do think D & T tours may persist for some time after the band hangs it up), but I also don't think that's practical. They're getting older. Heck, I'm getting older. So, just trying to get a feel for that "next tier" of places I need to check out once I knock out the "Big 3" (or concurrently with knocking out the Big 3).

    But you are 100% correct - the perspective I'm looking for is more than just the venue proper. It's the experience as a whole. For instance, I went to Fiddler's for the first time this year. The venue itself is fine... I actually kind of liked it. But it's located in a business park (thus knocking it down a bit), but it's in Denver, one of my favorite cities (thus boosting it a bit). Looking for that holistic "man, this is a great place to see a show" approach.
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