Live Trax Vol. 60: 8.20.95 - Cincinnati Music Hall

[RSSR]

I care. Truthfully, I'm still obsessed enough about any year they'll give us.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Springraces

They want 6 weeks of pre order so they know how many they need to make.

Does anyone care this show is coming out?

There was a lot of excitement when it was first announced. Make people wait 6 weeks and that excitement drops off. This is one of my top requested shows, so I am still super excited about it.

Also, you shouldn’t need 6 weeks to have a ballpark of how many CDs will sell in the first couple months. This is the 60th volume, the targeted customer base is already in place, they should have a good idea by now how many to print.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

I’ve seen many people trying to explain the long LT pre-order windows by saying they need to know how many to print. The main way I know that’s either 1.) incorrect or 2.) DMB sucks at it is the fact that every Live Trax volume from 45-59 is still available to purchase on the CD format.

[OutofDarkness]

It'd be interesting to see just how many LTs the band actually sells on average. To bring up the Dead again, each new Dave's Picks gets 25k copies, and they inevitable sell out before the preorder window closes.

[Springraces]

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman

I’ve seen many people trying to explain the long LT pre-order windows by saying they need to know how many to print. The main way I know that’s either 1.) incorrect or 2.) DMB sucks at it is the fact that every Live Trax volume from 45-59 is still available to purchase on the CD format.

They make a first run of it and estimate how many they'll keep for leftovers, OR make a second run after that preorder and keep a certain amount in storage. It's not like they go 9,321 people pre ordered this. We'll make THAT many.

[Springraces]

Originally Posted by OutofDarkness

It'd be interesting to see just how many LTs the band actually sells on average. To bring up the Dead again, each new Dave's Picks gets 25k copies, and they inevitable sell out before the preorder window closes.

I would like to know as well. The Dead has a way different enormous fanbase, and these limited edition Daves Picks become collectors items the second it's sold out.

The supply and demand approach is definitely part of that marketing and it works. Dave's Picks aren't available on any steaming or download platform at all. Of course you can easily find ways around that if you poke around.

At this point I would imagine these LTs have wayyyy lower buy in than they did in LT 1-30. How many casual fans are spending $20 plus on a CD preorder of a random show from 1995 in 2022 unless you're a diehard.

[RSSR]

30K seems like a safe number for these.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Springraces

They make a first run of it and estimate how many they'll keep for leftovers, OR make a second run after that preorder and keep a certain amount in storage. It's not like they go 9,321 people pre ordered this. We'll make THAT many.

Some of these LTs that haven’t sold out are dating back to 2018 and are still available. If you want them in stock for years, just shoot high. I don’t see why they’d need to know how many people will pre order if they are planning a second run down the road, or want to keep some in storage for years. Makes no sense to me.

[Springraces]

The mix on Satellite isn't what I was hoping. I know 95 DMB is tough to capture, but I'd almost prefer an aud tape of this as opposed to this mixed version. Something doesn't sound quite right.

[blumathu]

Mix sounds fantastic to me. They've had some terrible LT mixes in the past but this sounds good.

[Springraces]

Originally Posted by blumathu

Mix sounds fantastic to me. They've had some terrible LT mixes in the past but this sounds good.

Maybe it's just the 95 sound then. It's tough to beat L@RR for sound. Mix of Dave's Chet and that snare, and trying to mix the bass in between.

[RSSR]

I think we can thank Grateful Dead's Dan Healy for RR95.

[OutofDarkness]

Listening to '95 DMB really reminds me what a great song Satellite is. It's easy to forget because its such a setlist filler song, Boyd and Roi are no longer there, etc. But at its core, it's a great tune.

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by OutofDarkness

Listening to '95 DMB really reminds me what a great song Satellite is. It's easy to forget because its such a setlist filler song, Boyd and Roi are no longer there, etc. But at its core, it's a great tune.

I agree with this and I also really like it on Live Trax 30 and when they did the acoustic sets.

[crashintonickdm]

Satellite was def better with Boyd and Roi but that song is a classic no matter what era

[btpeters]

We've all seen it to our heart's content, but people go to shows hoping to hear Satellite. I'd say its probably AT LEAST in the top 5 of any general/casual person going to DMB for the first time's want list.

[RSSR]

Satellite is great. No matter how much it's been played and released live.

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by RSSR

I think we can thank Grateful Dead's Dan Healy for RR95.

Didn't he do LT 21 as well? Seems like I remember hearing that when it came out.

[RSSR]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

Didn't he do LT 21 as well? Seems like I remember hearing that when it came out.

I can't find his mixing credits anywhere online. I'll check my copy when I get home tonight.

[Matt83]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

Didn't he do LT 21 as well? Seems like I remember hearing that when it came out.

That's correct. Recorded the show and ran the board.

[RSSR]

LT21 was given a good score on loudness. As was RR95 somewhat.

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/19064

[Springraces]

Originally Posted by btpeters

We've all seen it to our heart's content, but people go to shows hoping to hear Satellite. I'd say its probably AT LEAST in the top 5 of any general/casual person going to DMB for the first time's want list.

It's because people just want to scream SAT AH LITE!! And then laugh and hive their broz.

[Springraces]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

Didn't he do LT 21 as well? Seems like I remember hearing that when it came out.

21 has a great sound and one I just came back to recently. It is under appreciated. I think they were releasing a lot of mid 90's stuff on DMBlive at the time and we were over saturated with it. On it's own, it's fantastic.

[Springraces]

Originally Posted by RSSR

Satellite is great. No matter how much it's been played and released live.

It's one of a handful of DMB tunes that has really never changed over time. I think Carter might emphasized a few things differently over the years, but it's never had extra intros, jams, or outros. I think Song that Jane Likes might be the only other one that comes to mind from the early batch of tunes.

[Springraces]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

I agree with this and I also really like it on Live Trax 30 and when they did the acoustic sets.

They didn't do acoustic sets on LT 30. Are you talking about 31?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Springraces

They didn't do acoustic sets on LT 30. Are you talking about 31?

They really liked Satellite on LT30...AND when they did Satellite in the acoustic sets 20 years later.

[Dannyyankou]

The mix on Satellite is fine, but Boyd is a bit too loud IMO

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by Springraces

They didn't do acoustic sets on LT 30. Are you talking about 31?

No I am talking about LT 30 “and” when they did the acoustic sets in 2014 and 2015. I misread stuff all the time too

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by RSSR

I can't find his mixing credits anywhere online. I'll check my copy when I get home tonight.

Originally Posted by Matt83

That's correct. Recorded the show and ran the board.

Originally Posted by RSSR

LT21 was given a good score on loudness. As was RR95 somewhat.

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/19064

Originally Posted by Springraces

21 has a great sound and one I just came back to recently. It is under appreciated. I think they were releasing a lot of mid 90's stuff on DMBlive at the time and we were over saturated with it. On it's own, it's fantastic.

Thanks and I agree with you Springraces. You’re on point. We were over saturated at the time but LT 21 really is something special.

[Springraces]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

No I am talking about LT 30 “and” when they did the acoustic sets in 2014 and 2015. I misread stuff all the time too

Ah.. I definitely missed the AND. Apologies. You can enjoy your Satellites in anyway they play them.