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Old 02-17-2018, 02:26 PM   #5431
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I like songs such as Time Bomb, Bartender and Christmas Song, but the problem I have with them is the mention of Jesus. I mean, people would think that I'm some sort of religious freak if, e.g. I share those on FB, when I'm actually very anti-religious. The same applies to Two Step with Time Bomb intro... Just my random 2c
I've read that Dave is a very strong agnostic. Agnostic means you question whether there is a god or not, compared to Atheist where you believe there is no god, end of story. (Sorry if this common sense)

IMO, Dave is just putting those questions he has into song. He's saying he doesn't know if there's a god or not. I think it's questions that we all at some point think about.
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    Best Typical Situation ever is from 6/13/09. The only version where Tim has a solo I believe.
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    I've read that Dave is a very strong agnostic. Agnostic means you question whether there is a god or not, compared to Atheist where you believe there is no god, end of story. (Sorry if this common sense)

    IMO, Dave is just putting those questions he has into song. He's saying he doesn't know if there's a god or not. I think it's questions that we all at some point think about.
    That's probably true but I meant something else, which is how those songs specifically mentioning Jesus might sound to someone who is not a fan or has never heard DMB's music. (which in my case is about 99% of my friends) When most people hear "I wanna believe in Jesus" I'm not sure many would dig deeper into the lyrics and try to find what the song is about, so they would assume this is some Christian music. With "God" I think, it won't be that bad, because there's all sorts of songs singing about that, and people are kind of used to hearing it. I don't know, it might also be a culture-specific issue. I should have probably mentioned I live in Eastern Europe, so people's attitude towards these things might be different than in the US.
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    Old 02-17-2018, 11:01 PM   #5434
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    Who cares if you have a problem with Dave Matthew's lyrics? You can just listen to about 95% of his songs if you don't want to hear the word "jesus" in it.
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    Old 02-17-2018, 11:46 PM   #5435
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    Me by The 1975 has some sax in it that reminds me of Roi. I can't put my finger on it, not a ton of sax parts do, but this one does.
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    Old 02-18-2018, 01:39 AM   #5436
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    Who cares if you have a problem with Dave Matthew's lyrics? You can just listen to about 95% of his songs if you don't want to hear the word "jesus" in it.
    Again, that's not what I meant and like I said before I like all of the above-mentioned songs.
    Whatever, subject closed.
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    Old 02-18-2018, 11:29 AM   #5437
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    Minarets LT 11 is top 5 performances of the song ... love that outro groove
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    Old 02-18-2018, 11:42 AM   #5438
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    Minarets LT 11 is top 5 performances of the song ... love that outro groove
    Yes! It might actually be my #1 favorite performance of the song. I wish he played it on the 12 string more often.
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    Old 02-19-2018, 06:42 AM   #5439
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    This would be an atypical Warehouse CD selection, and the tape from Chris Drews is already excellent, but man, I'd love to get an official version of Tim's "In Your Eyes" from SPAC this past year. It was incredible, especially with the crowd singing along the whole time.
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    Old 02-19-2018, 06:47 AM   #5440
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    This would be an atypical Warehouse CD selection, and the tape from Chris Drews is already excellent, but man, I'd love to get an official version of Tim's "In Your Eyes" from SPAC this past year. It was incredible, especially with the crowd singing along the whole time.


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    Old 02-19-2018, 06:59 AM   #5441
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    Best Typical Situation ever is from 6/13/09. The only version where Tim has a solo I believe.
    I loved being there for that performance, got to go with LT7 though!
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    Old 02-19-2018, 07:44 AM   #5442
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    When most people hear "I wanna believe in Jesus" I'm not sure many would dig deeper into the lyrics and try to find what the song is about, so they would assume this is some Christian music.
    No... if it was Christian music, Dave would be singing "I love Jesus and we're getting a shih tzu together."

    A questioning phrase like "I wanna believe in Jesus" would be verboten in Christian music, because it suggests doubt.

    You don't doubt in Christian music, you just love Him and know He's saving you. And your pickup truck.
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    I think Typical Situation is one of the greatest songs ever, and it's really hard for me to pick my favorite version. Sometimes i feel that the early ones are tops (live trax 30 is amazing. Also DMBLive at Trax 1992, I love dave's voice on that one) But best overall I feel torn between Live Trax 34, and Live Trax 8. 99 and 04 are the two best years for that song in my opinion.
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    Old 02-19-2018, 07:49 AM   #5444
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    No... if it was Christian music, Dave would be singing "I love Jesus and we're getting a shih tzu together."

    A questioning phrase like "I wanna believe in Jesus" would be verboten in Christian music, because it suggests doubt.

    You don't doubt in Christian music, you just love Him and know He's saving you. And your pickup truck.

    It seems he's aware of the deeper meaning in Dave's lyrics, but I see what he means, if you just happened to hear one line from Bartender, you may assume he's babbling about christianity. But i just say, don't worry what others think. If you're afraid your friends won't like it or will think less of you/dmb, don't share it, or share it with some sort of explanation attached. But then again, i don't use the social medias, nor do i care when people make fun of me for liking dmb
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    Old 02-19-2018, 08:38 AM   #5445
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    I had a dream that DMB was touring with Boyd, but he just sat in a chair and didnt play for the entire show. At one point during the concert, the energy is through the roof, and like Linda McMahon at Wrestlemania 17, Boyd stands from his chair and starts soloing and the crowd goes nuts. Dave was furious and rolled his eyes at me in the crowd.
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    Old 02-19-2018, 04:22 PM   #5446
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    It drives me nuts that this is the only footage (that I can find) of Bartender from 8/19/08...and the person filming didn't capture the whole thing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysToJfIg9no
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    Old 02-19-2018, 05:51 PM   #5447
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    Loving Wings is really good, it sounds like something classic ('92 era) DMB would come up with to me
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    Old 02-19-2018, 06:03 PM   #5448
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    I was listening to Be Yourself today...and while I hate the derka derpa whatever noise...the music to the song is great...lyrics need some polishing too, but I like the message.
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    Old 02-20-2018, 06:00 AM   #5449
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    I had a dream that DMB was touring with Boyd, but he just sat in a chair and didnt play for the entire show. At one point during the concert, the energy is through the roof, and like Linda McMahon at Wrestlemania 17, Boyd stands from his chair and starts soloing and the crowd goes nuts. Dave was furious and rolled his eyes at me in the crowd.
    Was it a big leather chair with a high back?

    I had a dream we were seeing DMB's 1st show this year. Tim was gone. There were 2 musicians seated where Tim and Boyd usually were. A female on violin with sheet music and then a dude with a massive instrument and nobody could tell what it was. They played an acoustic set without Carter and Rashawn and sounded fantastic. I woke up before the full band set.
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    I was listening to Be Yourself today...and while I hate the derka derpa whatever noise...the music to the song is great...lyrics need some polishing too, but I like the message.
    Yeah, there’s literally not a single good line in that song. The public makes fun of DMB enough, imagine if they release Be Yourself without changing it
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    Old 02-20-2018, 07:15 AM   #5451
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    Kit Kat Jam would sound cool Dave + Tim
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    when did Dave switch from the Chet to the Martin for full band? I know it was sometime in late July / early August '99 but was there a particular show or did he phase out the Chet and phase in the Martin?
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    Tim playing "In Your Eyes" 6/17/17 at SPAC is absolutely incredible. Dave comes back after he plays it almost speechless. "That is....I love this man right here. That was beautiful."
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=215YhQsz64U

    That moment at 1:04 has got me rofl
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    Forgot how awesome this version of LITHOG is from ACL '09

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW3xmRPqUuc
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    Someday they're going to issue a remastered version of Big Whiskey, with some subtlety and layering to it, and I'm never going to leave my headphones again.


    Edit: As it stands now, it sounds great in the car. But it just flattens right up inside my headphones, especially after listening to AFTW right before it.
    As much as we love them and they help us tune out the rest of world and get lost in the music, headphones are a compromise. Cars sound so great because they are contained and consistent units where the speakers have been placed to optimize the sound distribution.

    The best sound involves more air. A room dedicated to listening music with a full compliment of speakers to make sure you get the "right" balance of all of the frequencies. Then you start getting into the speaker quality, and you gotta have a Mcintoch tube power amp, and this and that and the other thing. Audiophiles chasing their tails are second only to guitarists in that there's always something more or better that they have to get.

    Anyway, a superior mixes (and these super subjective) and great cans (over-ears headphones) provide the best portable and isolated option...and generally the most affordable (even if you drop $300+ on a pair).

    Wow, I'm rambling...tangent/rant over.
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    Tim playing "In Your Eyes" 6/17/17 at SPAC is absolutely incredible. Dave comes back after he plays it almost speechless. "That is....I love this man right here. That was beautiful."
    The look on his face was priceless. He had this expression of where the fuck did that come from? How was that even possible?!
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    I've read that Dave is a very strong agnostic. Agnostic means you question whether there is a god or not, compared to Atheist where you believe there is no god, end of story. (Sorry if this common sense)

    IMO, Dave is just putting those questions he has into song. He's saying he doesn't know if there's a god or not. I think it's questions that we all at some point think about.
    This may be how he identifies now, but he was raised a Quaker. So faith was a part of his life. Songs that he wrote in the teens and into his 20s that discuss faith or make allusions to it and even questioning faith seem par for most people in that age range.

    Agnosticism is a logical endpoint if uncompelled by the offerings of the organized religions yet not willing to dismiss the belief in a "god" or higher power.

    Save Me is one of my favorite Dave tunes and I love the take on the devil trying to tempt Christ during his 40 days in the desert.
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    This would be an atypical Warehouse CD selection, and the tape from Chris Drews is already excellent, but man, I'd love to get an official version of Tim's "In Your Eyes" from SPAC this past year. It was incredible, especially with the crowd singing along the whole time.
    Not quite the whole time...it took us a little bit to realize what he was playing. And man were the lyrics out of sequence and butchered, but it was absolutely astounding. Timmah-ness is next to g godliness...at least on guitar.
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    when did Dave switch from the Chet to the Martin for full band? I know it was sometime in late July / early August '99 but was there a particular show or did he phase out the Chet and phase in the Martin?
    I would say probably early August. The only video evedence is 8/6/99 and 8/7

    The Martin (for full band) phased out quickly. I don't even think it made it to 2000.

    Its really hard to tell for sure unless you were going to shows back then and can remember. Very little photo evidence on the web

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