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Old 02-19-2021, 12:27 PM   #8521
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Hey guys, question for ya, relating to the speculation surrounding any holdup for a live D&F release: Everyone is always saying how much it would cost to get the rights to all the cover songs they play, but how can bands like Umphrey's, who play dozens more covers and release nearly all their shows, afford to release all those covers? Is it really not that pricey? Is UM just willing to pay the cost for the fans? Or is D&F management just really super cheap when it comes to paying out for song rights? This has always confused me...would someone mind clearing it up for me, please? Thanks!
This is more related to the bad blood within the band during this period.

At least thatís the popular speculation.
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    This year marks the 10 year anniversary of the Caravans. It would be cool if they released a box set with one show from each stop, a blu-ray of a show, a vinyl of Atlantic City, and even like a behind the scenes documentary about the whole thing. I know it won't happen but it would be cool.
    Love this idea! I didn't make it to a Caravan but they seemed like such a cool concept.
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    Old 02-19-2021, 12:29 PM   #8523
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    This year marks the 10 year anniversary of the Caravans. It would be cool if they released a box set with one show from each stop, a blu-ray of a show, a vinyl of Atlantic City, and even like a behind the scenes documentary about the whole thing. I know it won't happen but it would be cool.

    The 10 year anniversary of their 20th anniversary?
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    Old 02-19-2021, 12:54 PM   #8524
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    This year marks the 10 year anniversary of the Caravans. It would be cool if they released a box set with one show from each stop, a blu-ray of a show, a vinyl of Atlantic City, and even like a behind the scenes documentary about the whole thing. I know it won't happen but it would be cool.
    I would love Atlantic City on vinyl. That show is fire!
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    Old 02-19-2021, 01:08 PM   #8525
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    This is more related to the bad blood within the band during this period.

    At least thatís the popular speculation.
    That was before Tim was full time in DMB so youíd think 17 years on things would be different. Timís been full time since Big Whiskey era.
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    Old 02-19-2021, 01:09 PM   #8526
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    This year marks the 10 year anniversary of the Caravans. It would be cool if they released a box set with one show from each stop, a blu-ray of a show, a vinyl of Atlantic City, and even like a behind the scenes documentary about the whole thing. I know it won't happen but it would be cool.
    If it did it wouldnít be a Live Trax. If we get ANY caravan again itíd be a Gorge box set.
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    Old 02-19-2021, 09:41 PM   #8527
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    When it comes to 2001 maybe the two Chicago shows.
    I want a 2001 show WITHOUT the lovely ladies.
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    Old 02-20-2021, 12:31 AM   #8528
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    I want a 2001 show WITHOUT the lovely ladies.
    5/9/01 is a good one. Iíve listen to that tape about 100 times.
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    Old 02-20-2021, 02:22 PM   #8529
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    5/9/01 has a great tape, Carter sounds so good on it. That Two Step is an all timer.
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    Old 02-20-2021, 09:56 PM   #8530
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    5/9/01 has a great tape, Carter sounds so good on it. That Two Step is an all timer.
    I've never heard that show's tape, but looking at the setlist, I will have to download and listen to it.
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    Old 02-20-2021, 11:03 PM   #8531
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    I've never heard that show's tape, but looking at the setlist, I will have to download and listen to it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XBD...Copperpot-OEW5


    Can't remember what else is great from the show besides Two Step, but I'm pretty sure I remember that JTR being fantastic as well.
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    Old 02-21-2021, 08:57 AM   #8532
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XBD...Copperpot-OEW5


    Can't remember what else is great from the show besides Two Step, but I'm pretty sure I remember that JTR being fantastic as well.
    Itís just the original 5 brining it all night. One of the last with no guest and just the 5 members.
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    Old 02-22-2021, 03:54 PM   #8533
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    I'm really hoping we get a spring 2002 show... With the recent XM 2004 show and LT 50 recently... I don't think we'll get that year for awhile now..

    I was listening to tapes from 02 this weekend and really really want something from that energetic spring tour... The band just seemed like they were having a blast... And there are dozens of good shows from April/May to choose from...
    This mid set run at the Pepsi Center in Denver is jaw dropping..

    You Never Nnow
    Grace is Gone
    One Sweet World
    So Right
    Cortez w/ Warren Haynes
    Fool to Think
    Jimi Thing
    Drive in Drive Out

    and a Waste/Billies encore..
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    Old 02-23-2021, 01:10 AM   #8534
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    I know we’ve had 2004 within the last year but 2000, 2001, 2002 AND 2003 are a while since last release.
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    Old 02-23-2021, 01:14 AM   #8535
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    I’d like to see them release the missing nights from multi night runs that only had one night released
    Philadelphia November-December 1998
    Worcester December 1998
    Indianapolis June 1999
    Cincinnati June 2000
    Hartford August 2000
    Camden NJ June 2001, June 2013
    Madison Square Garden December 2002
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2004
    West Palm Beach September 2007
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2008
    Pittsburgh June 2009
    Brixton June 2009
    NYC Citi Field July 2010
    Charlottesville November 2010
    Atlantic City June 2011
    Berkeley, CA August 2014
    2016 Gorge run.
    Indianapolis July 2018
    Charlottesville 2018 (although I know that was a special non LT download)
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    Old 02-23-2021, 08:05 AM   #8536
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    Iíd like to see them release the missing nights from multi night runs that only had one night released
    Philadelphia November-December 1998
    Worcester December 1998
    Indianapolis June 1999
    Cincinnati June 2000
    Hartford August 2000
    Camden NJ June 2001, June 2013
    Madison Square Garden December 2002
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2004
    West Palm Beach September 2007
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2008
    Pittsburgh June 2009
    Brixton June 2009
    NYC Citi Field July 2010
    Charlottesville November 2010
    Atlantic City June 2011
    Berkeley, CA August 2014
    2016 Gorge run.
    Indianapolis July 2018
    Charlottesville 2018 (although I know that was a special non LT download)
    ....nah

    pass
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    Old 02-23-2021, 09:01 AM   #8537
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    Iíd like to see them release the missing nights from multi night runs that only had one night released
    Philadelphia November-December 1998
    Worcester December 1998
    Indianapolis June 1999
    Cincinnati June 2000
    Hartford August 2000
    Camden NJ June 2001, June 2013
    Madison Square Garden December 2002
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2004
    West Palm Beach September 2007
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2008
    Pittsburgh June 2009
    Brixton June 2009
    NYC Citi Field July 2010
    Charlottesville November 2010
    Atlantic City June 2011
    Berkeley, CA August 2014
    2016 Gorge run.
    Indianapolis July 2018
    Charlottesville 2018 (although I know that was a special non LT download)
    I'm pretty sure this is just a list of the least likely shows to be released.
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    Old 02-23-2021, 09:44 AM   #8538
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    Iíd like to see them release the missing nights from multi night runs that only had one night released
    Philadelphia November-December 1998
    Worcester December 1998
    Indianapolis June 1999
    Cincinnati June 2000
    Hartford August 2000
    Camden NJ June 2001, June 2013
    Madison Square Garden December 2002
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2004
    West Palm Beach September 2007
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2008
    Pittsburgh June 2009
    Brixton June 2009
    NYC Citi Field July 2010
    Charlottesville November 2010
    Atlantic City June 2011
    Berkeley, CA August 2014
    2016 Gorge run.
    Indianapolis July 2018
    Charlottesville 2018 (although I know that was a special non LT download)
    Why in the world would they do that?
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    Old 02-23-2021, 10:15 AM   #8539
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    I'm thinking there's potential that the consistent Sirius debuts give us a chance to make Live Trax releases more interesting. There's really no difference in the quality of shows selected. Perhaps this is an opportunity for the LT series to dip deeper into shows/weekends:
    - More multinight stands
    - Soundchecks
    - Fill discs with highlights from other nights

    Stuff we've seen before, but just with more regularity to make it stand out. Also worth noting that if I was starting a a LivePhish+ type app for DMB, it certainly wouldnt hurt to bring up the available soundboard total. Which could be a part of the Sirius inspiration.
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    Old 02-23-2021, 12:40 PM   #8540
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    Why in the world would they do that?
    They DO audio tape everything correct?
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    Old 02-23-2021, 01:41 PM   #8541
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    They DO audio tape everything correct?
    They record everything...that that didnít answer my question, lol
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    Old 02-23-2021, 01:47 PM   #8542
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    They record everything...that that didnít answer my question, lol
    What, you wouldn't buy a copy of every single show the band has played if they released a new one every day?
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    Old 02-23-2021, 01:53 PM   #8543
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    What, you wouldn't buy a copy of every single show the band has played if they released a new one every day?

    I don't even buy everything that's available now!
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    Old 02-23-2021, 04:49 PM   #8544
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    Iíd like to see them release the missing nights from multi night runs that only had one night released
    Philadelphia November-December 1998
    Worcester December 1998
    Indianapolis June 1999
    Cincinnati June 2000
    Hartford August 2000
    Camden NJ June 2001, June 2013
    Madison Square Garden December 2002
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2004
    West Palm Beach September 2007
    Alpine Valley, WI August 2008
    Pittsburgh June 2009
    Brixton June 2009
    NYC Citi Field July 2010
    Charlottesville November 2010
    Atlantic City June 2011
    Berkeley, CA August 2014
    2016 Gorge run.
    Indianapolis July 2018
    Charlottesville 2018 (although I know that was a special non LT download)
    12/07/98 is in my top 5 of shows I want the band to release.

    I've been hoping for that show to be released since before Live Trax even existed. I can still remember my disappointment when Live Trax 1 was announced and realized they were releasing night 2, not night 1.
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    Old 02-23-2021, 04:55 PM   #8545
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    Here's the top 6 shows I want released:
    1) Sept 2, 2018 (Gorge)
    2) Nov 7, 1998 (Worcester)
    3) Oct 2, 2007 (Hollywood Bowl)
    4) One of the show the band did with Herbie Hancock in 1998
    5) Either April 19, 20 or 21, 2002 (Flecktones Canadian run)
    6) A show from 2001 without the Lovely Ladies (About a page earlier in this thread someone suggested May 9, 2001 when I said this and I agree)
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    I was at that Gorge 2018 show and enjoy it quite a bit. The Sirius rip of it isn't perfect, but it's pretty solid quality if you're looking for a soundboard
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    Old 02-23-2021, 08:33 PM   #8547
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    Why not give either the 2018 or 2019 Gorge run the box set treatment that the 2002 run got.
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    Why in the world would they do that?

    Why would they not though? Thereís some solid choices in that list...some are better than what weíve already seen released in the LT series.
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    Why not give either the 2018 or 2019 Gorge run the box set treatment that the 2002 run got.

    Lol, no thanks. Of all the Gorge runs to release those years would be dead last on my list.
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    Why would they not though? Thereís some solid choices in that list...some are better than what weíve already seen released in the LT series.
    It has nothing to do with whether they are good shows, they had the opportunity to release 2 night stands together for years and havenít done it...why would they choose to release something like alpine 04 as LT 8 and LT 57? I just do t see it happening.
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