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Old 01-10-2017, 03:22 PM   #3691
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Saying Stefan should stick to "base" <- or Meryl Streep should stick to acting is tantamount to everyone else sticking to their respective jobs and not exercising free speech or having any opinions outside of their careers.

So, if you're a dentist, laborer, nurse, secretary, "base" player, etc...please only comment and have an opinion on your respective professions. Please.
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    Saying Stefan should stick to "base" <- or Meryl Streep should stick to acting is tantamount to everyone else sticking to their respective jobs and not exercising free speech or having any opinions outside of their careers.

    So, if you're a dentist, laborer, nurse, secretary, "base" player, etc...please only comment and have an opinion on your respective professions. Please.
    I'm pretty sure if your dentist stood up on National TV and lectured, opined, expressed (or whatever you want to call it) their political views... you would say, "stick to fixing teeth."

    And no one is talking about free speech.
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    Old 01-10-2017, 05:29 PM   #3693
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    I'm pretty sure if your dentist stood up on National TV and lectured, opined, expressed (or whatever you want to call it) their political views... you would say, "stick to fixing teeth."

    And no one is talking about free speech.
    Categorically untrue. Don't assume anything I would say. You don't know me or how I think. My dentist is a big Three Stooges fan, so I am down to hear that guy "opine".

    This has everything to do with free speech. Thanks for stopping by.
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    Old 01-10-2017, 05:40 PM   #3694
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    Well, Meryl Streep should stick to acting. She's great though. No disagreements
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    Meryl Streep is not smart.
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    Old 01-11-2017, 08:47 AM   #3696
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    she's so dumb. It's people like her that made a good majority of americans feel disenfranchised which got Trump elected.
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    Old 03-19-2019, 10:31 AM   #3697
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    Opening/bumping this to move the convo out of the setlist thread.
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    wow didnt know this has been locked for over 2 years
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    Old 03-19-2019, 10:39 AM   #3699
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    the ol' stefan bantz thread
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    Fucking Meryl Streep.
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    Opening/bumping this to move the convo out of the setlist thread.
    Just in time for him to go on another twitter hiatus.
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    I sort of hate this thread.... I understand everyone's frustration with him/the band etc. I also understand that some of the things he decides to write are extremely ill-advised and don't really sit well with the hardcore community. He is also a famous person and this is a discussion board and so that is all part of it.

    That all being said, he is still a human being and he is someone who likes to be social and tries to reach out to fans more than anyone else in the band and so having a giant thread with 3,700 post that is bashing the guy 95% of the time just feels kind of icky. Hence why this is my first (and probably last) post in here.

    All I'm saying is, discussion is good, being a bunch of entitled assholes is bad. As Dave keeps preaching, be kind to one another. If someone made a thread dedicated to you and then kept track of everything you ever said/did and then judged the shit out of you it probably wouldn't sit well with you either. Yes, I know he could just take his ball and go home but it says something about him (for better or worse) that he hasn't.
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    Old 03-19-2019, 10:58 AM   #3703
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    Don't melt down on a public text based platform and you will avoid these discussions.

    It's not hard.
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    Old 03-19-2019, 11:01 AM   #3704
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    I sort of hate this thread.... I understand everyone's frustration with him/the band etc. I also understand that some of the things he decides to write are extremely ill-advised and don't really sit well with the hardcore community. He is also a famous person and this is a discussion board and so that is all part of it.

    That all being said, he is still a human being and he is someone who likes to be social and tries to reach out to fans more than anyone else in the band and so having a giant thread with 3,700 post that is bashing the guy 95% of the time just feels kind of icky. Hence why this is my first (and probably last) post in here.

    All I'm saying is, discussion is good, being a bunch of entitled assholes is bad. As Dave keeps preaching, be kind to one another. If someone made a thread dedicated to you and then kept track of everything you ever said/did and then judged the shit out of you it probably wouldn't sit well with you either. Yes, I know he could just take his ball and go home but it says something about him (for better or worse) that he hasn't.
    I don’t fully disagree with this, and I personally started feeling like an ass when I was criticizing Stefan today on the other thread, BUT, when it comes to the stuff he was tweeting yesterday/today and how he engages with morons over twitter, it’s hard to not join in on a discussion about this.

    I mean, he mentioned something about how Boyd got into the band to begin with in an argumentative way. What was he saying there? That’s worth discussing.

    The other crap, like getting upset about fans criticizing the band, ... I mean you’re kind of asking for a thread about you when you can’t keep your cool over some low life fans talking smack over the internet.

    Stefan is 44. He’s had plenty of time to figure out that there will always be haters and there’s never anything to gain by responding to them.
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    Old 03-19-2019, 11:03 AM   #3706
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    "But this won't burn that bridge! Hasn't yet! And because he's the only member of the band we obsess about, and are beginning to hate, on a social media platform (it's his fault for staying on Twitter), it's ok to throw common decency out the window when interacting with him!"
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    And here I posted about this in the nDMBc thread because everyone bitches about Phish being brought up in DMBc.
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    "But this won't burn that bridge! Hasn't yet! And because he's the only member of the band we obsess about, and are beginning to hate, on a social media platform (it's his fault for staying on Twitter), it's ok to throw common decency out the window when interacting with him!"
    -What I get from the Twitter sphere and people on Ants.
    Generalize much? I don’t partake in the above. I do criticize the band on the forums, but I don’t reach out directly via social media or yell anything at the band in person.
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    I don’t fully disagree with this, and I personally started feeling like an ass when I was criticizing Stefan today on the other thread, BUT, when it comes to the stuff he was tweeting yesterday/today and how he engages with morons over twitter, it’s hard to not join in on a discussion about this.

    I mean, he mentioned something about how Boyd got into the band to begin with in an argumentative way. What was he saying there? That’s worth discussing.

    The other crap, like getting upset about fans criticizing the band, ... I mean you’re kind of asking for a thread about you when you can’t keep your cool over some low life fans talking smack over the internet.

    Stefan is 44. He’s had plenty of time to figure out that there will always be haters and there’s never anything to gain by responding to them.
    I get it and I don't think discussion is bad. Especially in the world we live in right now we need more discussion and ideas. I don't know if we need more shit talking. I can turn on CNN and see plenty of that. Look, I'm not hear to be Fonz's sword and shield or anything, everyone is going to do what they are going to do. Sometimes though I think everyone does need to step back and look a little bit beyond themselves and that's hard enough to do in real life and on twitter/ants it's even harder. It's really easy to jump on here and be an internet warrior. I do it sometimes so I'm not throwing stones.

    All I want to point out is, he is one human versus the masses. I agree he should try and be the bigger person and he should ignore everyone but we have all failed at doing that before. I don't know him from Adam but maybe he is a sensitive artist type. I have no idea. Maybe though the guy wants to reach out but then has a hard time dealing with everyone. I appreciate and respect the fact that he keeps trying even if some of his posts make me cringe. Honestly though, half the posts on here make me cringe too and I still talk with all of you...

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    "But this won't burn that bridge! Hasn't yet! And because he's the only member of the band we obsess about, and are beginning to hate, on a social media platform (it's his fault for staying on Twitter), it's ok to throw common decency out the window when interacting with him!"
    -What I get from the Twitter sphere and people on Ants.
    Can't argue with this. I know most don't feel this way and that isn't the intent but I have seen a few people that are just straight up trying to be part of the problem.

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    "But this won't burn that bridge! Hasn't yet! And because he's the only member of the band we obsess about, and are beginning to hate, on a social media platform (it's his fault for staying on Twitter), it's ok to throw common decency out the window when interacting with him!"
    -What I get from the Twitter sphere and people on Ants.
    You are completely projecting that people here think its okay to harrass him and act like an ass.

    Stefan was even being a whiny jerk to a guy yesterday who was completely respectfully saying the bands sound isnt the same as it used to be.
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    some very receptive minds in here & on twitter
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    "But this won't burn that bridge! Hasn't yet! And because he's the only member of the band we obsess about, and are beginning to hate, on a social media platform (it's his fault for staying on Twitter), it's ok to throw common decency out the window when interacting with him!"
    -What I get from the Twitter sphere and people on Ants.
    I don't think anyone has advocated for the people that go after him or the setlists in asshole ways. I think most people know that Twitter is a cesspool and that kind of behavior comes with the territory. I think more people here are taken aback by Stefan not only engaging them but doing so in such a halfwit manner...by either not providing legitimate refutes to their claims or using some of the most mind-numbing analogies ever.

    Plus, if you're going to proactively talk about how great your sets are on Twitter and can't handle the backlash when fans don't agree with you...tough shit.

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    Firmly in the camp that being a total dick to a band member, whether or not you feel it's warranted- which 99.9% of the time it isn't- will not help the band feel like they should go out of their way for the fan base.
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    I get it and I don't think discussion is bad. Especially in the world we live in right now we need more discussion and ideas. I don't know if we need more shit talking. I can turn on CNN and see plenty of that. Look, I'm not hear to be Fonz's sword and shield or anything, everyone is going to do what they are going to do. Sometimes though I think everyone does need to step back and look a little bit beyond themselves and that's hard enough to do in real life and on twitter/ants it's even harder. It's really easy to jump on here and be an internet warrior. I do it sometimes so I'm not throwing stones.

    All I want to point out is, he is one human versus the masses. I agree he should try and be the bigger person and he should ignore everyone but we have all failed at doing that before. I don't know him from Adam but maybe he is a sensitive artist type. I have no idea. Maybe though the guy wants to reach out but then has a hard time dealing with everyone. I appreciate and respect the fact that he keeps trying even if some of his posts make me cringe. Honestly though, half the posts on here make me cringe too and I still talk with all of you...


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    What youre saying is fair, and its good to keep in mind, I would agree. But Stefan has been through this how many times now? He slowly creeps back onto twitter until he has a tirade like the last couple days then goes dark for months.

    Its not like any of us are happy to see him act like that, and its really only a select few who really go crazy on him on twitter. The worst one I saw during this stint was a phish fan account anyway. Its just not worth engaging for him and making himself look bad.
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    I for sure do not encourage people trolling Stefan on Twitter, but he has to be smarter. You're a celebrity engaging with eggs.

    Turn off the mentions and put the phone down.
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    Firmly in the camp that being a total dick to a band member, whether or not you feel it's warranted- which 99.9% of the time it isn't- will not help the band feel like they should go out of their way for the fan base.

    Is anyone other than a handful of Twitter trolls NOT in that camp?



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    Before our show ever even aired, we were sat down and told about the negative shit we would get on social media. Some people can ignore it, some can't. I personally just have always found it hilarious that someone would take time out of their life to post negative shit on social media.
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    I don't think anyone has advocated for the people that go after him or the setlists in asshole ways. I think most people know that Twitter is a cesspool and that kind of behavior comes with the territory. I think more people here are taken aback by Stefan not only engaging them but doing so in such a halfwit manner...by either not providing legitimate refutes to their claims or using some of the most mind-numbing analogies ever.

    Plus, if you're going to proactively talk about how great your sets are on Twitter and can't handle the backlash when fans don't agree with you...tough shit.
    This is a big thing too. If he expects only positive responses to tweets like that he is being delusional.
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    The opportunity for a lesson learned here is for Stefan. Why? There is no perfect world where people on the internet do not reach out and criticize you when you’re a ‘public figure’. . That will never exist, ever.

    You’re left with two choices: Get off Twitter like the rest of your mates or figure out how to deal with criticism.

    The reason there aren’t threads on the rest of the band is because they figured it out already. Stefan has yet to do that, or he is incredibly naive.

    Agree with everyone on being nice to people. Of course, but don’t go on the internet expecting love notes all day, that’s just being ignorant.
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    It's kind of unfortunate everyone including Stefan harps on negativity instead of understanding how strong of a reaction there was during and after the mid set run in Amsterdam, it's not that fans hate the band which he takes everything as, play runs more like Amsterdam and watch what happens
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