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Old 09-17-2020, 06:49 AM   #278011
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Of those polled, 43% said they voted for Trump in 2016, 41.8% for Hillary Clinton, 8.2% for someone else, and 7% did not vote.
There's the ticket right there. Love when a poll lists the 2016 results as a comparison to the 2020 choices.
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    Imagine being accused of sexual assault 26 times. Including rape of a minor.
    Stalin was right.

    One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.

    Apply it fully to Trump and his administration.
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    Old 09-17-2020, 06:51 AM   #278013
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    My medium hot take is I'm not concerned about an October surprise because Trump has cried wolf so many times that nothing will stick to Biden.
    Remember that thing about how "Democrats took Trump literally but not seriously?"

    Seems like some?/many?/most? Republicans were taking him literally AND seriously
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    I wonder what aparker thinks about the 26 sexual assault allegations including the rape of a minor in which he was officially linked with Jeffrey Epstein? I also wonder how many more of his lib friends are now voting for Trump since Dems are disturbed that Barr has said COVID lockdowns have been the worst infringement on human liberties since slavery?
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    Stalin was right.

    One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.

    Apply it fully to Trump and his administration.
    Cue ky's head exploding in 3....2.....1....
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    Old 09-17-2020, 07:10 AM   #278016
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    Man I WISH a candidate's spouse meeting with the AG was a dealbreaker. Can you imagine how much more of a dealbreaker it would be if a candidate met directly with the AG with the aim to steal an election?

    Christ, that would be a trip!
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    Old 09-17-2020, 07:25 AM   #278017
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    Hmmmmm. Chad wolf defies a subpoena.

    Very strange. So off brand.
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    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...312144386?s=20

    FBI Director Wray testifies that foreign election interference this cycle is aimed "primarily to denigrate Vice President Biden, and what the Russians see as kind of an anti-Russian establishment."



    https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1306600878061883393?s=20
    "We look at antifa as more of an ideology or a movement than an organization," FBI Dir. Wray testifies
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    Hmmmmm. Chad wolf defies a subpoena.

    Very strange. So off brand.
    1) That's most alpha name ever

    2) If you or I defied a subpoena, they would lock us up. I don't understand why "Nancy" doesn't authorize the same
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    I'm just going to start posting this every day until we have some answers and a broad discussion

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/91339...of-ice-detaine

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    At the center of the claims lies the Irwin County Detention Center in Ocilla, Ga., which houses immigrants detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement and is run by LaSalle Corrections, a private company that operates similar facilities in three Southern states.

    Dawn Wooten, a nurse who worked at the facility until her sudden demotion in July, filed a whistleblower complaint on Monday outlining what her lawyers called "recent accounts of jarring medical neglect at ICDC."
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    The complaint also raises red flags about the rate at which hysterectomies — the surgical removal of the uterus — are performed on immigrant women detained at the facility.

    The complaint says that several immigrant women expressed concerns to Project South about a high rate of hysterectomies and that Wooten and other nurses at the facility questioned the number of women undergoing the procedure as well as their ability to fully understand and consent to it.

    According to the complaint, a detained immigrant told Project South that she talked to five women at the facility who received hysterectomies between October and December 2019 and said they "reacted confused when explaining why they had one done."

    "When I met all these women who had had surgeries, I thought this was like an experimental concentration camp," the woman told Project South. "It was like they're experimenting with our bodies."
    We need to be talking more about the forced sterilization of immigrant women in detention centers. I know some folks got upset when the detention centers were called concentration camps. They pointed to the fact that the internment sites existed prior to this administration. Okay, fair, though I'd argue how they are used is important, but we've had that debate. I know they didn't like the comparisons to Nazi Germany when we bring up the family separations. I know they don't like the comparisons to gestapo/secret police when unmarked DHS agents are taking people into unmarked cars and off the streets.

    But how far can it be pushed before we acknowledge the growing ugliness; the rapid march to full blown fascism and the alarming comparables?
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    Can anything really happen to Wolf denying the subpoena here?
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    1) That's most alpha name ever

    2) If you or I defied a subpoena, they would lock us up. I don't understand why "Nancy" doesn't authorize the same
    I truly do not know. At some point Doing The Right Thing has to take precedence over perceived politicization.
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    Can anything really happen to Wolf denying the subpoena here?
    sergeant at arms can be dispatched to detain him and force him to sit for the hearing.

    Can also be held in contempt of congress, which if convicted carries a minimum sentence of 1 month in federal prison and $100 fine and a maximum of 12 months/$100k.
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    I truly do not know. At some point Doing The Right Thing has to take precedence over perceived politicization.
    Governing in fear of how it might be perceived or twisted has been an issue for dems for awhile. Its one of the biggest problems our media causes.
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    I'm just going to start posting this every day until we have some answers and a broad discussion

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/91339...of-ice-detaine





    We need to be talking more about the forced sterilization of immigrant women in detention centers. I know some folks got upset when the detention centers were called concentration camps. They pointed to the fact that the internment sites existed prior to this administration. Okay, fair, though I'd argue how they are used is important, but we've had that debate. I know they didn't like the comparisons to Nazi Germany when we bring up the family separations. I know they don't like the comparisons to gestapo/secret police when unmarked DHS agents are taking people into unmarked cars and off the streets.

    But how far can it be pushed before we acknowledge the growing ugliness; the rapid march to full blown fascism and the alarming comparables?
    This is what they're willing to do when they face the threat of re-election

    Imagine what they'll allow if that's off the table

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    New conspiracy going around the last couple days is that the west coast fires are a hoax, all the maps show them magically stopping at the Canadian border.

    This is all based on screen shots of fire maps that are made to only show US fires

    Even Papadopolous tweeted about it.
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    I don’t see how someone who believes we’re on a “rapid march to full blown fascism” can then turn around and support an AR ban.
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    I don’t see how someone who believes we’re on a “rapid march to full blown fascism” can then turn around and support an AR ban.
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    I don’t see how someone who believes we’re on a “rapid march to full blown fascism” can then turn around and support an AR ban.
    There are like a thousand things that need to happen before we need to turn to a militia armed with legal ARs to save the country. I'm not sure these two are really related.

    EDIT: and if that happens, holy shit.
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    Really going to equate forced sterilization to banning 1 type of weapon with multiple other options?

    Yikes.

    I wonder how you can stay silent on this stuff, Ky. Shouldn't this be a huge issue for pro-life libertarians like yourself?
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    Really going to equate forced sterilization to banning 1 type of weapon with multiple other options?

    Yikes.

    I wonder how you can stay silent on this stuff, Ky. Shouldn't this be a huge issue for pro-life libertarians like yourself?
    I don't have any reason to single ky out in particular, but my general experience is that unless an issue involves the flag or the troops or an outdated perception of what America "used to be", then righties don't give a fuck about anything unless it directly impacts them or happens to them.
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    I wonder when the Aussies are going to wake the fuck up and realize they're living under a facist regime?
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    HARRISBURG, Pa. (@AP) _ The Green Party's candidate for president did not strictly follow procedures for getting on Pennsylvania's ballot in November's election and cannot appear on it, the state Supreme Court ruled Thursday.

    https://twitter.com/timelywriter/sta...944674306?s=19

    Good news. Print the ballots!
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    EDIT: duplicate post
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    I'm just going to start posting this every day until we have some answers and a broad discussion

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/91339...of-ice-detaine





    We need to be talking more about the forced sterilization of immigrant women in detention centers. I know some folks got upset when the detention centers were called concentration camps. They pointed to the fact that the internment sites existed prior to this administration. Okay, fair, though I'd argue how they are used is important, but we've had that debate. I know they didn't like the comparisons to Nazi Germany when we bring up the family separations. I know they don't like the comparisons to gestapo/secret police when unmarked DHS agents are taking people into unmarked cars and off the streets.

    But how far can it be pushed before we acknowledge the growing ugliness; the rapid march to full blown fascism and the alarming comparables?
    Its horrible.

    This is one of the real impacts of having a guy like Trump in the WH, there is so much misdirection and major issues to deal with on a daily basis that an issue like this is not in the top 10 of biggest issues this country needs to deal with for some lawmakers. We should have a full blown investigation into this and right any wrongs that have been done, but its so hard to envision that happening with the dysfunction happening.

    I'm not trying to belittle this, its really terrible stuff. But so is election fraud, russian bounties, COVID deaths, Bannon stealing from MAGAs after lying to MAGAs, etc. etc. etc. I'm not saying equivalent, but they are all bad for a democracy in one way or another, they all need to be dealt with, and there are just not enough people and time in the day to deal with them all.
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    I don’t see how someone who believes we’re on a “rapid march to full blown fascism” can then turn around and support an AR ban.
    ooooo shit bout to get lit
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    Its horrible.

    This is one of the real impacts of having a guy like Trump in the WH, there is so much misdirection and major issues to deal with on a daily basis that an issue like this is not in the top 10 of biggest issues this country needs to deal with for some lawmakers. We should have a full blown investigation into this and right any wrongs that have been done, but its so hard to envision that happening with the dysfunction happening.

    I'm not trying to belittle this, its really terrible stuff. But so is election fraud, russian bounties, COVID deaths, Bannon stealing from MAGAs after lying to MAGAs, etc. etc. etc. I'm not saying equivalent, but they are all bad for a democracy in one way or another, they all need to be dealt with, and there are just not enough people and time in the day to deal with them all.
    Haven't thought about Bannon until you just mentioned him, and what do I find? Great stuff and so glad we have Tucker Carlson to bring this to light!
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele.../#f7c4f7822d5b
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    ooooo shit bout to get lit
    It's just interesting. Biden tweets about an assault weapons ban, which has massive public support? Ky is all over it.

    Whistleblower complaint filed alleging forced sterilization of immigrants in privately, for-profit, detention centers? crickets
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    Really going to equate forced sterilization to banning 1 type of weapon with multiple other options?

    Yikes.

    I wonder how you can stay silent on this stuff, Ky. Shouldn't this be a huge issue for pro-life libertarians like yourself?
    I didn’t equate anything. I don’t even know what that means in this context.

    It just doesn’t make sense that you actually think we’re careening towards fascism and then literally want to weaken the amendment of the constitution that is literally designed for that scenario.

    “Stay silent”

    I’ve literally said repeatedly how awful Trump is and that how migrants have been treated is bad. I just don’t it equates to nazism. I’m not getting into another stupid ass argument about this because apparently that’s much to comprehend for some.
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    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

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    I didn’t equate anything. I don’t even know what that means in this context.

    It just doesn’t make sense that you actually think we’re careening towards fascism and then literally want to weaken the amendment of the constitution that is literally designed for that scenario.

    “Stay silent”

    I’ve literally said repeatedly how awful Trump is and that how migrants have been treated is bad. I just don’t it equates to nazism. I’m not getting into another stupid ass argument about this because apparently that’s much to comprehend for some.
    If you're under the impression that gun owners would ever have a remote chance to compete against the US military then you are living in a fantasy world, my friend.

    And the 2nd amendment was included in the BOR to protect the USA against foreign invaders, because at the time a strong central democracy was unattainable and the Revolutionary army had just been essentially disbanded. Protection of the republic was delegated to local militias during this time which is why the 2nd amendment exists.
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