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Old 06-09-2018, 08:10 AM   #1
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Now with the album out & having heard the official studio tracks, im curious to see which 3 songs would you have chosen to release as singles to radio? Any format radio station can be included....
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    Re: Single Selections

    Honestly, I don’t think DMB worries too much about singles anymore. They didn’t even do a music video to Samurai Cop.

    Maybe 1 more. Either Come On Come On or Again and Again
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    Old 06-09-2018, 08:39 AM   #3
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    Re: Single Selections

    A band this old doesn't have to worry about singles anymore. But if this was 1994 I would say the singles should be in this order:

    Idea of You
    Samurai Cop
    Do You Remember
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    Old 06-09-2018, 09:01 AM   #4
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    Re: Single Selections

    Idea of You
    Do You Remember
    Samurai Cop/Again and Again
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    Old 06-09-2018, 09:24 AM   #5
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    Honestly what they DID pick... (the first two, Samurai Cop and TGIY) made me think that this album was AWFUL.

    After listening to the album several times through, I really like it. I would have released SHE, AGAIN & AGAIN, and Virginia In the Rain.
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    Old 06-10-2018, 06:07 PM   #6
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    Definitely Idea of You
    Probably Come On Come On 2nd
    Toss up for DYR and SC for 3rd? I think SC could have been good but the arrangement was a bit weak on the studio version
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    Old 06-10-2018, 06:35 PM   #7
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    Re: Single Selections

    Again And Again - lead single by a month
    She - second single, one month delay
    Samurai Cop - save for the four month push.

    Idea Of You - movie soundtrack tie-in around Holidays.

    non-album b-sides.
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    Old 06-10-2018, 06:38 PM   #8
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    Honestly what they DID pick... (the first two, Samurai Cop and TGIY) made me think that this album was AWFUL.

    After listening to the album several times through, I really like it. I would have released SHE, AGAIN & AGAIN, and Virginia In the Rain.
    They picked Sam Cop, Idea of You and Come Tomorrow based on the sticker that was on the actual album. That usually lists the singles as far as I know.

    If I was picking them: Idea of You, CoCo, and A&A
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    Old 06-11-2018, 12:35 AM   #9
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    If we're looking at 3 tunes to release as singles, I'd choose these in the following order:

    1 - Idea Of You - It simply has that mass appeal factor, as some have already stated.
    2 - Again and Again - Great follow up to IOY. It captures some of the best (and most-marketable) elements of DMB 4.0 (i.e. their new sound, lyrical direction, etc).
    3 - Come On Come On - A "romantically sexual" tune that's different enough than the previous two proposed releases to carve a niche. I've been listening to this song a lot over the past few days. The melody is mesmerizing to me (albeit simple... which is good for the masses), the romantically/sexually-suggestive lyrics have a bit of marketable cheese attached to them (good for the masses, also), and I simply love the 12-string on this one!
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    Old 06-11-2018, 01:18 PM   #10
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    they would be crazy not to release Idea of You next.

    IMO best song on album and has been begging to be released since 2006.

    then i would follow that with Come on Come on. 4th maybe Do You Remember which i don't like all that much(missing something) but has that radio vibe.

    i know Come Tomorrow was planned, but I wouldnt release that. leave that message for who buys it to skip. its cheesy and will make anyone who hears it turn off to the album when there are some really good songs on it. not for its views but because its just bad. worst song on album by a long shot.
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    Old 06-11-2018, 07:03 PM   #11
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    I think I would go with the following:

    1. Idea of You
    2. She or Cant Stop
    3. Come On Come On

    I think going this mix of songs would vary the sound that gets out on the airwaves and would have a chance to appeal to a wider audience.
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    Old 06-12-2018, 06:25 AM   #12
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    they would be crazy not to release Idea of You next.

    IMO best song on album and has been begging to be released since 2006.

    then i would follow that with Come on Come on. 4th maybe Do You Remember which i don't like all that much(missing something) but has that radio vibe.

    i know Come Tomorrow was planned, but I wouldnt release that. leave that message for who buys it to skip. its cheesy and will make anyone who hears it turn off to the album when there are some really good songs on it. not for its views but because its just bad. worst song on album by a long shot.
    I'm curious why you have such a strong reaction to Come Tomorrow? It seems that most people enjoy it (except that guy from NPR who completely misread the whole song).
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    Old 06-12-2018, 06:27 AM   #13
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    1) Idea of You
    2) Again & Again
    3) She
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    Honestly, I don’t think DMB worries too much about singles anymore. They didn’t even do a music video to Samurai Cop.

    Maybe 1 more. Either Come On Come On or Again and Again
    I just heard Sam Cop out at a bar the other night and at the grocery store yesterday.

    Singles definitely still mean something.
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    Old 06-12-2018, 08:09 AM   #15
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    They picked Sam Cop, Idea of You and Come Tomorrow based on the sticker that was on the actual album. That usually lists the singles as far as I know.
    Not always, as the album is loose in the world and time marches on, some music becomes less appropriate as a single or falls out of favor. That sticker list is usually based on a gut reaction by marketing with what they think they can work with. that gut reaction is more of a loose outline than a concrete plan.

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    A band this old doesn't have to worry about singles anymore.
    Every artist needs to worry about singles. The back catalog will sell as it will, the devoted listeners will buy it regardless, but to grow an audience you absolutely need singles.

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    Honestly, I don’t think DMB worries too much about singles anymore. They didn’t even do a music video to Samurai Cop.
    Truly they haven't worried about singles for a while. The last big single that had a push that I can recall was in conjunction with Busted Stuff. BWGK had marketing tie-ins, and AFTW had some promotional single reach, but by and large it's been 16 years since a legitimate single campaign was put on by this band and their management.

    And don't confuse the music video issue with the singles issue. For decades it became simply automatic in the industry, but now lyric videos and the videos they did do based off the album art have gained prominence, the old ways are not necessarily the right course anymore. And the old ways cost a lot more money.

    I wish the band would take advantage of the old school b-side mentality, because there's a wealth of material we haven't heard that could easily juggle the band's notoriety with minimal effort by simply releasing new music as a couple of b-sides.
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    Idea of You
    Again and Again
    Do You Remember

    The iTunes description says IOY and CT are radio material, for all that matters.
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    Come On, Come On should/could be the first major single for the band in ages.
    Come Tomorrow has the ability to speak to large audiences in our current political and cultural climes, and could be a massive success if marketed right.
    Again And Again would be an easy pick for a single (though there's a sameness with Come On, Come On that makes it less likely)
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    Idea of You
    Again and Again
    Do You Remember

    The iTunes description says IOY and CT are radio material, for all that matters.
    These are the right three choices.
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    Old 06-13-2018, 05:06 AM   #19
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    If we're looking at 3 tunes to release as singles, I'd choose these in the following order:

    1 - Idea Of You - It simply has that mass appeal factor, as some have already stated.
    2 - Again and Again - Great follow up to IOY. It captures some of the best (and most-marketable) elements of DMB 4.0 (i.e. their new sound, lyrical direction, etc).
    3 - Come On Come On - A "romantically sexual" tune that's different enough than the previous two proposed releases to carve a niche. I've been listening to this song a lot over the past few days. The melody is mesmerizing to me (albeit simple... which is good for the masses), the romantically/sexually-suggestive lyrics have a bit of marketable cheese attached to them (good for the masses, also), and I simply love the 12-string on this one!
    I agree with these three though I’d probably slide Come On Come On to the top of that list even though I prefer the other two personally.
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    1. Idea of You
    2. She
    3. Again and Again
    All 3 songs have a good potential for play on the radio and such. More pop oriented sound on She and A&A would appeal to a broad range of people.
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