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Old 11-13-2018, 07:10 AM   #2581
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man these "Batson Sessions" were a flop that blew over like an overhyped hurricane.

putting Come Tomorrow back on shuffle.
This is where I'm at. Used to listen on YT here and there, but have no problem with them being taken down.
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    I still think a significant amount of the tBS sounds like songs that would have fit on SU (or even ED). More simplistic tunes that are less unique and/or interesting than the music I most love from the band. Which makes the love they're getting all the more strange to me, as most people say they hate SU.

    It's not all bad, but it's not all amazing stuff. This still doesn't compare to the material from tLWS that passed over to bring us ED. Not even close.

    I think that speaks to bad Come Tomorrow is.
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    "Ask" is fantastic.
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    I think that speaks to bad Come Tomorrow is.
    I agree. I've listened to The Batson Sessions a lot more than CT at this point.
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    Can anyone tab out Early home?
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    Finished/not finished, mastered/not mastered... whatever. I prefer good songs over shitty songs, and there are more good songs in this collection than on Come Tomorrow.

    Haha, THIS! My thoughts exactly.
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    Old 11-13-2018, 11:23 AM   #2587
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    I think that speaks to bad Come Tomorrow is.
    I obviously disagree, but you're in the group that didn't like CT out of the gate and still don't right? And while there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, it would just make you more inclined to appreciate almost anything that wasn't CT.

    We know lots of people really like ED and quite a few like SU as well. For some it was when they started listening to/liking the band. For others, they were ready to go on these particular journeys with the band. We all know we like the band for different reasons, meaning: different albums, configurations, tours, songs, memories, and any combination thereof. But it doesn't make the material as good or better than anything else from band (nor worse for that matter). So, it's really just different perspectives.

    I think CT is an excellent album. Most of the songs are far simpler than "classic" DMB, but if anything they further show that the band can simplify their music (harmonically, melodically, etc) and still sound great. Whereas ED and SU seemed to point towards them not being particularly good at more simplistic or concise song-craft.

    I hear generally far better song quality on CT than tBS discs. Again, a very cool glimpse into the process, but nothing game changing...barring this bit I'm self-quoting regarding the tunes mentioned:

    "Some tunes like Red Glare and Early Home sound more like overt tributes to other bands or artists (Peter Gabriel/Police/‘80s new-wave-progesque stuff and the Beatles respectively), as opposed to having that unique DMB/Dave sound. This isn’t to say that these are bad songs, but not as “original” as the band’s material tends to be..."

    Hearing Dave and the band so directly/obviously channel other artists is interesting. It makes me think of the Steve Morse Major Impact albums, where he wrote and recorded tunes inspired by the most inspirational artists in his musical life. Dave and the Band doing something along these lines could interesting. But I'm more interested in hearing them concentrate on their thing and releasing more new original music and/or more of the songs from the wealth of unreleased or unrecorded material that we already know and love.
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    I still think a significant amount of the tBS sounds like songs that would have fit on SU (or even ED). More simplistic tunes that are less unique and/or interesting than the music I most love from the band. Which makes the love they're getting all the more strange to me, as most people say they hate SU.

    It's not all bad, but it's not all amazing stuff. This still doesn't compare to the material from tLWS that passed over to bring us ED. Not even close.
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    This is where I'm at. Used to listen on YT here and there, but have no problem with them being taken down.
    Agreed. I’ve maybe listened to the whole Batson Sessions twice. Early Home will still get a play, as will Drive Me Away and Break For It but outside of that nothing is near finished enough to really peak my interest. Those three tunes make for a nice little b-side disc to Come Tomorrow.

    I said it in another thread, but aside from its title track, Come Tomorrow is really a great album. Tim was interviewed around the time of the Big Whiskey release and claimed that to be their Sgt. Pepper, but I think that goes to Come Tomorrow. There’s a newness and originality to it while also nodding to their original sound. The album as a whole is has a cohesive flow musically and thematically. It’s meant to listen from start to finish and that’s what I really like about it. Are there some cool ideas and a couple of good tunes off the Batson Sessions? Sure, but it’s mostly a couple discs worth of decent to pretty good ideas that never went anywhere. As others have said, some of those songs have Stand Up all over them and had they ever been released probably would have been met with similar criticism. Side note, I’m shocked at the praise I’ve seen Celebrate get. People complain about the new rock sound yet that sounds like Nine Inch Nails.
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    Come Tomorrow is a solid album. Five months after its release, the only skips are Come Tomorrow, She, and often That Girl Is You. The Batson Sessions as a collection is not even on the same playing field as the Lillwhite Sessions...certainly not as good as Come Tomorrow.
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    Old 11-13-2018, 04:12 PM   #2590
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    Agreed. I’ve maybe listened to the whole Batson Sessions twice. Early Home will still get a play, as will Drive Me Away and Break For It but outside of that nothing is near finished enough to really peak my interest. Those three tunes make for a nice little b-side disc to Come Tomorrow.

    I said it in another thread, but aside from its title track, Come Tomorrow is really a great album. Tim was interviewed around the time of the Big Whiskey release and claimed that to be their Sgt. Pepper, but I think that goes to Come Tomorrow. There’s a newness and originality to it while also nodding to their original sound. The album as a whole is has a cohesive flow musically and thematically. It’s meant to listen from start to finish and that’s what I really like about it. Are there some cool ideas and a couple of good tunes off the Batson Sessions? Sure, but it’s mostly a couple discs worth of decent to pretty good ideas that never went anywhere. As others have said, some of those songs have Stand Up all over them and had they ever been released probably would have been met with similar criticism. Side note, I’m shocked at the praise I’ve seen Celebrate get. People complain about the new rock sound yet that sounds like Nine Inch Nails.
    With you on this, especially Early Home. That was a nice little tune. I was actually looking forward to hearing Kill The King, but then I did, and it reminded me how I felt when I heard Hello Again on Stand Up. That was a tough listen.
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    With you on this, especially Early Home. That was a nice little tune. I was actually looking forward to hearing Kill The King, but then I did, and it reminded me how I felt when I heard Hello Again on Stand Up. That was a tough listen.
    Same haha. It is completely dead sounding and there’s no horns or violin on it. The horns make that song.
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    "Ask" is fantastic.
    Agreed. Such a cool riff. Would love to see the band pick this up again. Would need to replace or tweak the Break Free riff though.

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    Can anyone tab out Early home?
    I will after work today.
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    I think that speaks to bad Come Tomorrow is.

    When was DMB last good?
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    Old 11-14-2018, 10:19 AM   #2594
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    Is it too late for a Batson Sessions Proudest Monkey?
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    Can anyone tab out Early home?
    It's something like this. I didn't tab out the strumming pattern or anything just the notes/chords after a first pass.


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    -2--2h3p2---3—3-2h3p2--0-0-0---0--2-2-2h3p2--
    -3--3-3-3---3-3-3-3-3--2-2-2h3p2--3-3-3-3-3--
    -x--x-x-x---1-1-1-1-1--3-3-3-3-3--x-x-x-x-x--
    -1--1-1-1-------------------------1-1-1-1-1--

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    -3--3--
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    -5--3--3—-1—

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    When was DMB last good?

    In the studio?
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    Old 11-15-2018, 02:30 AM   #2597
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    I think that speaks to bad Come Tomorrow is.
    except that Come Tomorrow is a great record.
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    Old 11-16-2018, 06:41 AM   #2598
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    Hey guys, I’m currently traveling and completely missed all the fun. If someone could send over a link it would be greatly appreciated. Just spent an hour trying to find a working one with no luck :/
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    Old 11-16-2018, 07:04 AM   #2599
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    Never mind, finally figured it out
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    I enjoy having studio version of Shotgun, Idea of You (without the annoying live intro), and Break for It on my laptop.

    More than I enjoy having Come Tomorrow on my laptop.
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    It's something like this. I didn't tab out the strumming pattern or anything just the notes/chords after a first pass.




    came here to ask for this - thank you!
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    Old 11-16-2018, 02:36 PM   #2602
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    came here to ask for this - thank you!
    I think it's pretty close so I hope that helps. I think the slides and strumming are straightforward but if it would help to expand to a full tab I can do that, just let me know.

    Cheers

    EDIT: If so, I'll move it to the Musician's Forum
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    Finished/not finished, mastered/not mastered... whatever. I prefer good songs over shitty songs

    Yeah same here, CT is my favorite DMB album since Busted Stuff and I'm glad Dave's songwriting has picked up the last couple years
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    I'm late to the party. Is there any chance I could get a link to download or listen to this?
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    Some of you are lazy as hell, links have been posted numerous times in this thread.
    Ohh look another https://files.fm/u/2y8mwhqz
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    this works
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    Yeah same here, CT is my favorite DMB album since Busted Stuff and I'm glad Dave's songwriting has picked up the last couple years
    Evidently it has not.
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    They should open Columbus with "Scream Into the Grave - Outro"
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    Hey guys, first time poster here, long time lurker. Ever since TBS leaked, I've been working on a remaster/reimagination of it in my free time and I wanted to share! My goal was to make it feel like finished, full album as opposed to a handful of demos. This included cleaning up some sloppiness (intro of Break For It comes to mind, where Dave flubs a note in the first couple bars), creating some cool transitions between songs, and making a coherent, flowing track list.

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Iz...86_os_IZb1Mh9p
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    1. There Are Ghosts
    2. Kill the King
    3. Bullets and Rum
    4. Idea of You
    5. Break Free
    6. Can't Stop
    7. Red Glare
    8. Early Home
    9. Come On
    10. Drive Me Away
    11. Sister
    12. Break For It

    I chose not to include Cornbread and #27 because they feel very incomplete to me from TBS, and versions much more true to the band's live performances already exist on Little Red Bird. However, I did choose to include the three Come Tomorrow songs because the little differences between TBS and CT versions are definitely worth a listen. Additionally, Idea and Can't Stop are the only two songs that feature the full band (including LeRoi and Boyd) and it felt wrong to exclude them.

    I also avoided songs where Dave utilized drum loops instead of Carter, the exception being Drive Me Away which I felt was the most complete of the drum loop songs, as well as fitting with the other songs on the 'album'.

    I heavily based the master off of songs from Stand Up since it was originally going to follow it up, though I did take some cues from the versions of Can't Stop and Idea from Come Tomorrow, as well as songs from Big Whiskey. I tried my best to clean up the EQ and volume on all of the songs to make it more consistent, especially the low end. I also widened the stereo field a bit to compensate for a lot of the mono mixing of some instruments on some songs. There's also a bit of added reverb in places to hide the flat sound of the rough mixes that were leaked.

    I hope you all enjoy and I'd love to hear feedback! I'd also be open to doing other songs from the sessions if anyone is interested And just to be clear, I did this more for my own personal consumption of the songs, but I figured I'd share it along.
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    Thanks for sharing, man. Looking forward to giving it a spin while working tomorrow.
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    Hey guys, first time poster here, long time lurker. Ever since TBS leaked, I've been working on a remaster/reimagination of it in my free time and I wanted to share! My goal was to make it feel like finished, full album as opposed to a handful of demos. This included cleaning up some sloppiness (intro of Break For It comes to mind, where Dave flubs a note in the first couple bars), creating some cool transitions between songs, and making a coherent, flowing track list.
    Sounds incredible so far, brother! Really looking forward to digging into this, thank you for sharing this with the community.
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