*** Official Denver, CO 2022

[credin]

Might as well get it started, we are back in 2021.

[credin]

Dates are 10/1 and 10/2. Late in year. Will be interesting if it continues at Fiddlers or moves to pepsi center since it is October. I didn't see anything that said a venue.

[ebonecapone]

WH says it is Fiddler's.

[credin]

Originally Posted by ebonecapone

WH says it is Fiddler's.

Cool. Never know that time of year. Could be nice, could be chilly, could be snowing.

[groogrux27]

any word on when these go on sale?

[Benny003]

So disappointed it's not Red Rocks. Oh well.

[SoCalDMBLover]

Originally Posted by Benny003

So disappointed it's not Red Rocks. Oh well.

Not even a worldwide pandemic can get them to play Red Rocks again.

[jmkratt]

Something to look forward to...in a year and a half, lol

[LeftyDv]

Originally Posted by jmkratt

Something to look forward to...in a year and a half, lol

Got the update on my Ants app and called all my friends. I was the only one excited. I guess most people don't plan their lives 17 months out.

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by LeftyDv

Got the update on my Ants app and called all my friends. I was the only one excited. I guess most people don't plan their lives 17 months out.

At first I thought it was this fall and got really excited. Then I calmed down when I saw it was next year.

Still excited though. I mean it, something to look forward to seeing as all of my concerts so far this year have been cancelled or likely will

[flames_theman]

What is the best hotel option within walking distance to the venue?

[ebonecapone]

Originally Posted by flames_theman

What is the best hotel option within walking distance to the venue?

We stayed at the Wingate by Wyndham Greenwood Village/Denver Tech in 2018.

Able to go get merch outside of venue, take back to room, then go into amp. It was nice.

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by flames_theman

What is the best hotel option within walking distance to the venue?

SpringHill Suites by Marriott Denver Tech Center

[zjg135]

https://www.marriott.com/hotels/trav...5-54ba596febe2

Walk to outside merch get your stuff and take it back to the room. Plenty of restaurants and the light rail there as well. Usually full of several other DMB fans. Spacious rooms too.

[Speilmen230]

I'll be there for N2. We'll see on N1. The last two times at Fiddlers they mail it in N1 and drop all the goodies on N2. Last year I skipped N1 to go see Joe Rogan stand up at the Bellco theater. Well worth it.

Hoping the rarities continue for us at Fiddlers. Last year was my favorite opening run of tunes I've seen in person.

Why I Am
Grace is Gone ->
Warehouse
Sam Cop
Kill the Preacher (tease) ->
Dont Drink the Water
Spoon (!!!!)
The Best of Whats Around (!!!)

Sam Cop is a big wet fart to me, but aside from that, I'd take that opening run at every show.

[Speilmen230]

They'll play red rocks again once they can't draw 15k in one night. And then it will become a destination expensive show which will also suck for locals.

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by Speilmen230

They'll play red rocks again once they can't draw 15k in one night. And then it will become a destination expensive show which will also suck for locals.

Facts....

[SoCalDMBLover]

Originally Posted by Speilmen230

They'll play red rocks again once they can't draw 15k in one night.

Meaning they'll never play there as a group, since they're always going to be able to draw that many.

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by Speilmen230

They'll play red rocks again once they can't draw 15k in one night. And then it will become a destination expensive show which will also suck for locals.

I’d say Dave and Tim play there before the full band easy. Although, 2017 was the perfect opportunity and it didn’t happen.

[flames_theman]

Thanks for the hotel suggestions. It appears it’s to far out to book, lol. Seriously considering adding Denver next year though!!

[Speilmen230]

That's hilarious.

This band's attendance is declining year after year.

[jmkratt]

They do still sell out Fiddlers twice every time they come though

[Speilmen230]

Originally Posted by jmkratt

They do still sell out Fiddlers twice every time they come though

If they had come through Denver with two stops for the last 10 years do you think it would be all sell outs? I think the band and the local promoter in Denver have strategically held back DMB in Denver to drive demand.

They skipped us in 2020. So what the new date says to me is they were coming back in 2021 anyway, which again means they skipped us purposefully this year.

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by Speilmen230

If they had come through Denver with two stops for the last 10 years do you think it would be all sell outs? I think the band and the local promoter in Denver have strategically held back DMB in Denver to drive demand.

They skipped us in 2020. So what the new date says to me is they were coming back in 2021 anyway, which again means they skipped us purposefully this year.

I agree it's a strategy thing and I don't like it Not sure I agree with it either as they have always done well in Colorado though. That being said would they sell out every year? I don't know.

[Useliteski]

i am very into this. it will have been 8 long years since i've seen them at that point. i expect to have a really really good time, which i wasn't when i was setlist bitching half the time because i had seen them like 4 times already that summer and the year before...etc...

[Useliteski]

RR is tiny, but i had no idea it was a venue where once you hit a certain crowd number you just say fuck it. I've seen some bands there who could easily sell out amphitheaters, and have. interesting.

[Sniper15]

Originally Posted by Useliteski

RR is tiny, but i had no idea it was a venue where once you hit a certain crowd number you just say fuck it. I've seen some bands there who could easily sell out amphitheaters, and have. interesting.

Most people aren't willing to do their job for significantly less money in a slightly nicer office. Rock A-listers like Petty are the exception to the rule. Look at the Red Rocks calendar each summer and you never see bands like: DMB, Pearl Jam, Coldplay, U2, the Chili Peppers, Radiohead, Fleetwood Mac, Foo Fighters, Springsteen, Green Day, Phish and Dead & Company on the calendar. Bands lionize Red Rocks but once they graduate to larger venues, they almost never come back and take less money for the opportunity to play there. Top tier artist could obviously advocate for Red Rocks bookings but they don't because they want to maximize their profits at every tour stop. Fans like to romanticize venues but to the artist it's a business. DMB won't be back at Red Rocks until they start drawing less than 9k at their Pepsi Center or Fiddlers shows.

[TypicalBilly14]

Originally Posted by Sniper15

Most people aren't willing to do their job for significantly less money in a slightly nicer office. Rock A-listers like Petty are the exception to the rule. Look at the Red Rocks calendar each summer and you never see bands like: DMB, Pearl Jam, Coldplay, U2, the Chili Peppers, Radiohead, Fleetwood Mac, Foo Fighters, Springsteen, Green Day, Phish and Dead & Company on the calendar. Bands lionize Red Rocks but once they graduate to larger venues, they almost never come back and take less money for the opportunity to play there. Top tier artist could obviously advocate for Red Rocks bookings but they don't because they want to maximize their profits at every tour stop. Fans like to romanticize venues but to the artist it's a business. DMB won't be back at Red Rocks until they start drawing less than 9k at their Pepsi Center or Fiddlers shows.

What if a big name artist were to make Red Rocks a residency for 10 dates? Could they make it worth it financially? Obviously Pearl Jam and DMB could sell out all 10 dates easily. There are acts that have made Vegas a residency, of course like Aerosmith that it must have been worth it and Billy Joel plays MSG all the time. If DMB during October of 2021 after the Gorge played a 10 date residency at Red Rocks, maybe they could bump up the price a tad make it worth DMB's while?

[credin]

Originally Posted by TypicalBilly14

What if a big name artist were to make Red Rocks a residency for 10 dates? Could they make it worth it financially? Obviously Pearl Jam and DMB could sell out all 10 dates easily. There are acts that have made Vegas a residency, of course like Aerosmith that it must have been worth it and Billy Joel plays MSG all the time. If DMB during October of 2021 after the Gorge played a 10 date residency at Red Rocks, maybe they could bump up the price a tad make it worth DMB's while?

It comes down to a couple things. Pretty sure DMB does not want to do a ten night stand and pretty sure red rocks does not want to commit to a ten night stand. Its all about $$ and a ten night stand at red rocks is profitable but they can play 2 nights at fiddlers and probably walk away with almost the same amount of money. Plus 10 nights, what are they going to do play shake me 7 of the 10 nights. Its just too long in one town, even for red rocks. Its is not worth there time. I don't think it is about load in/out, it's about profit.

[ISawTheBridge10]

Originally Posted by Sniper15

Most people aren't willing to do their job for significantly less money in a slightly nicer office. Rock A-listers like Petty are the exception to the rule. Look at the Red Rocks calendar each summer and you never see bands like: DMB, Pearl Jam, Coldplay, U2, the Chili Peppers, Radiohead, Fleetwood Mac, Foo Fighters, Springsteen, Green Day, Phish and Dead & Company on the calendar. Bands lionize Red Rocks but once they graduate to larger venues, they almost never come back and take less money for the opportunity to play there. Top tier artist could obviously advocate for Red Rocks bookings but they don't because they want to maximize their profits at every tour stop. Fans like to romanticize venues but to the artist it's a business. DMB won't be back at Red Rocks until they start drawing less than 9k at their Pepsi Center or Fiddlers shows.

Why'd they play there in 2005? At that point they had been selling out arenas and large amphitheaters for years.