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Originally Posted by aircavmike
Carson…. You’ve posted some interesting tidbits that I’ve never heard before. Can you elaborate
1. The plan to bring in Lillywhite for Big Whiskey
2. The Flohr Lillywhite feud 2014-18
3. Randolph being asked to join back in 06 (I do know he was in the studio with them during that timeframe but never heard him being asked to join)
4. Any idea on what songs Ballard helped Matthews with for Busted Stuff? I assume Captain and Big eyed fish since they underwent some big changes
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1. Lillywhite told me that at some point. I'll see if I can find some public corroboration for it but he's the source on that bit. He told me he thought he was going to be the guy for Big Whiskey and then they went another way. For what it's worth, Batson also thought he'd produce Big Whiskey and he was disappointed when they went with "The Green Day guy." As for LeRoi possibly being the reason that Lillywhite didn't produce Big Whiskey, it's just my opinion (albeit an educated opinion).
2. Lillywhite was upset about the UTTAD release in late 2014 for a few reasons. He directed his anger toward Flohr on twitter. I told Lillywhite who was responsible, and then the person responsible actually blamed me & someone at Sony Legacy. But I remember Flohr saying to me "Tell Steve I'm too busy working with DMB on the next album."
The AFTW mix thing came about in 2018 and that sort of reopened some wounds for Lillywhite but then he apparently upset Stefan when he encouraged fans to find his mixes. That started the Lillywhite/Stefan feud that extended into the "this is Dave's band" drama that came later on twitter.
I think Lillywhite gets along fine with Dave. I think his beef is almost exclusively with Flohr.
3. This is according to Randolph. I had heard a rumor he was asked to join and then I asked him in person some years later, and he said that he was indeed asked to join. It's possible he's blowing smoke, but I don't think he was, given that I've heard similar things from others. You're probably thinking "why didn't he join?" And that's a separate thing that involves my opinion and it might be best not to open that can of worms because I don't want to hurt any feelings. I've been told that people in/around the band learn things from my posts, so I don't want to overdo it.
4. Ballard co-wrote Counting The Stars which became You Never Know. Dave supposedly also played Ballard a few other ideas he was working on. I can't say for certain exactly which others though I know there were others. During that session they also recorded the vocal take for Joyful Girl. The 2nd Ballard session is one of the bigger DMB mysteries that's waiting to be unraveled. Maybe Norlander will read this and be able to get Ballard on the record about some of this stuff.
I kind of rushed through this but hopefully I provided the answers you seek.