Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

I wonder if who the GA who saw this was. I'd bet money he's still coaching.

Jay Paterno?

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by vaxarado

Folks, this isn't tattoo gate. This isn't a player accepting hundred dollar handshakes. This is young boys (allegedly) being raped. Fuck notifying who you need to, go to the police.

Bet you Buckeye fans are just LOVING this scandal at another Big 10 school....

its embarrassing to Penn State, but just as Buckeye fans and every other scandal clad school argued throughout, im sure there is more to the story than meets the eye. (not denying what was "alleged")

[Beebz]

People blaming paterno for this are sad. This has nothing to do with Paterno or Penn state as a whole. This is one guy being a sick fuck.

Also, you should understand something about paterno -- he's very cognizant of legacy and reputation. He would have trusted the school to handle it quietly and call it a resignation rather than calling the police. He didn't want to ruin the guys entire life if he could avoid it. Now, if he knew the AD wasn't going to act, he'd have called the police.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Beebz

People blaming paterno for this are sad. This has nothing to do with Paterno or Penn state as a whole. This is one guy being a sick fuck.

Agreed

Also, you should understand something about paterno -- he's very cognizant of legacy and reputation. He would have trusted the school to handle it quietly and call it a resignation rather than calling the police. He didn't want to ruin the guys entire life if he could avoid it. Now, if he knew the AD wasn't going to act, he'd have called the police.

though this i dont agree with....if the allegations are true he did not deserve a quiet resignation.

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by dre2142

Bet you Buckeye fans are just LOVING this scandal at another Big 10 school....

its embarrassing to Penn State, but just as Buckeye fans and every other scandal clad school argued throughout, im sure there is more to the story than meets the eye. (not denying what was "alleged")

No, I'm not loving this. Its fucking disgusting.

Obviously hes innocent until proven guilty but if you read the report there seems to be too many exact details and questionable situations to just be coincidence. And I only browsed through a couple victims but couldn't read anymore because its so fucked up.

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by Beebz

People blaming paterno for this are sad. This has nothing to do with Paterno or Penn state as a whole. This is one guy being a sick fuck.

Also, you should understand something about paterno -- he's very cognizant of legacy and reputation. He would have trusted the school to handle it quietly and call it a resignation rather than calling the police. He didn't want to ruin the guys entire life if he could avoid it. Now, if he knew the AD wasn't going to act, he'd have called the police.

People are saying Paterno should have gone to the police. We're not saying he was with him in the showers. Huge difference.

Are you fucking serious? A 10 year old boy is getting ass raped in the shower by this guy (allegedly) and you think he should handle it quietly and not ruin this guy's life? Come on Beebz. Give me a fucking break.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by dre2142

Agreed



though this i dont agree with....

Paterno would not ruin a friends life and destroy his family publically if he could achieve the same result -- eliminating the problem -- through quieter means.

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Paterno would not ruin a friends life and destroy his family publically if he could achieve the same result -- eliminating the problem -- through quieter means.

Which is fucked up. This is pathetic. And I really can't believe you see this as being okay.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Jay Paterno?

wouldnt doubt it

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Paterno would not ruin a friends life and destroy his family publically if he could achieve the same result -- eliminating the problem -- through quieter means.

And I fault him for that if it were true.

But I dont fault him at all for reporting him to the higher ups within the university assuming that they would handle it properly.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by vaxarado

Which is fucked up. This is pathetic. And I really can't believe you see this as being okay.

Joe Paterno has zero responsibility here. None.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Joe Paterno has zero responsibility here. None.

only because he DID report it to the university. If he hadnt, I would have lost a great deal of respect for him

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by Beebz

People blaming paterno for this are sad. This has nothing to do with Paterno or Penn state as a whole. This is one guy being a sick fuck.

Also, you should understand something about paterno -- he's very cognizant of legacy and reputation. He would have trusted the school to handle it quietly and call it a resignation rather than calling the police. He didn't want to ruin the guys entire life if he could avoid it. Now, if he knew the AD wasn't going to act, he'd have called the police.

Are you fucking serious? So harboring a pedophile is ok so long as he loses his job? What the fuck?

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Paterno would not ruin a friends life and destroy his family publically if he could achieve the same result -- eliminating the problem -- through quieter means.

Originally Posted by vaxarado

Which is fucked up. This is pathetic. And I really can't believe you see this as being okay.

as much as I'd love to give Paterno a pass on this, if he did indeed "turn it over to the administration" and not "the police" his image is forever tarnished. This isn't a recruiting violation, this is the rape of a child. You turn over the fact that your assistant coach paid a player to the admin, you turn over the fact that your assistant coach was ass deep in a 10 year old to the cops.

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Paterno would not ruin a friends life and destroy his family publically if he could achieve the same result -- eliminating the problem -- through quieter means.

Eliminating the problem? Only way to accomplish that would've been to kill the sick fuck who likes diddling little boys.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by cruscott35

Are you fucking serious? So harboring a pedophile is ok so long as he loses his job? What the fuck?

That is nothing close to what I said. Don't cruscott this thread.

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by Beebz

That is nothing close to what I said. Don't cruscott this thread.

What do you mean by this?

Also, you should understand something about paterno -- he's very cognizant of legacy and reputation. He would have trusted the school to handle it quietly and call it a resignation rather than calling the police. He didn't want to ruin the guys entire life if he could avoid it. Now, if he knew the AD wasn't going to act, he'd have called the police.

[dre2142]

yeah beebz...i cant really get on board with your view on this. no way.

a quiet resignation wasnt deserved.....and who gives a shit if his life is ruined? thats deserved for what he was alleged to have done.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by dre2142

yeah beebz...i cant really get on board with your view on this. no way.

a quiet resignation wasnt deserved.....and who gives a shit if his life is ruined? thats deserved for what he was alleged to have done.

Pateno wouldnt have wanted to be the one to do it. That's what I'm saying. it was the schools responsibility to handle it, not paternos.

I don't care if his life was ruined. But I don't blame paterno for making the university deal with the problem. Its not a football issue.

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Pateno wouldnt have wanted to be the one to do it. That's what I'm saying. it was the schools responsibility to handle it, not paternos.

I don't care if his life was ruined. But I don't blame paterno for making the university deal with the problem. Its not a football issue.

Nobody wants to be the one to have to call the cops on their friend, however when something this big comes up, a good moral person calls the cops or kills them himself.

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Joe Paterno has zero responsibility here. None.

You have got to be kidding me. I can understand a GA being scared, not knowing what to do and running it up the chain of command. You report this. I don't care if you ask the campus police to do a quiet investigation but you report this. Have them take a look at security footage. Was he entering the facility (or certain rooms of the facility if they have interior cameras) that would make sense per the allegations. There is no reason he should have been in that facility with a 10 year old boy late at night, all by himself. None.

[YouNeverKnow25]

Child molesters don't get to go out on their terms. There is no "handling" this matter other than reporting to the police.

They utterly enabled him to continue raping children. They continually and repeatedly let him use their facilities as the candy and van to draw children into his grasp. Paterno and everyone else that was told about this sat idly by and did nothing. They deserve every ounce of scorn they get.

[vaxarado]

I mean, for gods sake. People made Tressel out to be the worst person on the face of the earth for not reporting players selling their own shit. Are you kidding me?

[JRS1386]

Paterno reported it that is the difference. Now Curley, he can burn for this for not doing anything with the information. Also, who knows how reliable the information was and who the informant was.

[YouNeverKnow25]

Paterno still opened the doors of the program to Sandusky freely, with young boys in tow. What exactly did Paterno think was going to happen to those children?

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

Paterno reported it that is the difference. Now Curley, he can burn for this for not doing anything with the information. Also, who knows how reliable the information was and who the informant was.

So you have the campus police investigate it quietly. You don't think Paterno has enough sway at the university to make that happen? Please.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Paterno still opened the doors of the program to Sandusky freely, with young boys in tow. What exactly did Paterno think was going to happen to those children?

Originally Posted by vaxarado

So you have the campus police investigate it quietly. You don't think Paterno has enough sway at the university to make that happen? Please.

Who knows what Paterno did or did not know besides one allegtion against the man. I am not defending Sandusky, he is a sick fuck, but I do not think all the anger towards Paterno is warranted. Also, who knows if Paterno was not lied to by Curley about how this was being handled besides removing Sandusky? Maybe he was told it was taking care of and nothing came of it?

[YouNeverKnow25]

I know that Paterno is old and possibly senile, but I have to give his intelligence a little more credit than to believe his line of thinking was "wow, that Sandusky sure is a pervert. Better tell Curley. ...(a few years pass) ... Sandusky still comes around here with all those little boys? Well, I'm sure that whatever Curley told him cured that perversion. He's in a great position now to help young boys while using my football facilities to do it."

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Child molesters don't get to go out on their terms. There is no "handling" this matter other than reporting to the police.

They utterly enabled him to continue raping children. They continually and repeatedly let him use their facilities as the candy and van to draw children into his grasp. Paterno and everyone else that was told about this sat idly by and did nothing. They deserve every ounce of scorn they get.

Originally Posted by vaxarado

You have got to be kidding me. I can understand a GA being scared, not knowing what to do and running it up the chain of command. You report this. I don't care if you ask the campus police to do a quiet investigation but you report this. Have them take a look at security footage. Was he entering the facility (or certain rooms of the facility if they have interior cameras) that would make sense per the allegations. There is no reason he should have been in that facility with a 10 year old boy late at night, all by himself. None.

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Paterno still opened the doors of the program to Sandusky freely, with young boys in tow. What exactly did Paterno think was going to happen to those children?

You guys are pathetic. Yes, its paternos fault that Sandusky raped children. The end.

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

Who knows what Paterno did or did not know besides one allegtion against the man. I am not defending Sandusky, he is a sick fuck, but I do not think all the anger towards Paterno is warranted. Also, who knows if Paterno was not lied to by Curley about how this was being handled besides removing Sandusky? Maybe he was told it was taking care of and nothing came of it?

Imagine it was your kids. Would you be happy with how Paterno handled it?