Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread

[jwrice5]

I find the segue between ASTB>PNP on LT2 to be quite impressive. To have all of them transition on a dime the way they do is really something to hear.

Also, even though it's been beaten to death, but they really need a violin and to get rid of lead electric... they are just a "regular rock" band now, and while I still enjoy the band they are obviously lacking in the main areas that made them unique and drew me (and many of us) in: violin and unique acoustic guitar riffs.

[Route_2]

I don't see them getting rid of Tim as long as he wants to be there. There are so many songs now where the lead electric is an integral part. Seven, Why I Am, Rooftop, YMDT, Corn Bread, etc.

I suppose they could pull those or rework them, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

[jwrice5]

Originally Posted by Route_2

I don't see them getting rid of Tim as long as he wants to be there. There are so many songs now where the lead electric is an integral part. Seven, Why I Am, Rooftop, YMDT, Corn Bread, etc.

I suppose they could pull those or rework them, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

Putting Tim on an acoustic would be preferred. I don't particularly love the songs with a strong focus on the lead electric.

[Xcacel]

Originally Posted by Route_2

I don't see them getting rid of Tim as long as he wants to be there. There are so many songs now where the lead electric is an integral part. Seven, Why I Am, Rooftop, YMDT, Corn Bread, etc.

I suppose they could pull those or rework them, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

Well, Tim is 63 years old, I don’t see him playing forever, as I wish for Carter

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by Xcacel

Well, Tim is 63 years old, I don’t see him playing forever, as I wish for Carter

Yes, there is age in the subtext. Carter is the ultimate limiter on the longevity of the band.

[Xcacel]

Originally Posted by Route_2

Yes, there is age in the subtext. Carter is the ultimate limiter on the longevity of the band.

That’s a clever consideration.

We all should keep on mind that the band has most likely 6-7 years in front of them, not more than that, so these coming tours (when it will be possible) will be a must see for every fan.

[GraceBuckley]

Originally Posted by Xcacel

That’s a clever consideration.

We all should keep on mind that the band has most likely 6-7 years in front of them, not more than that, so these coming tours (when it will be possible) will be a must see for every fan.

That's definitely the spirit with which to look at upcoming tours. After seeing some 70ish shows before 2004 (+ some not full concerts but live events), I have only seen DMB once in the last 17 yrs. So even without the massive pause that Covid gave so many of us, and the reflections on blessings, I'd probably be considering a show in the coming years anyway.

But thinking about ages of the band (I had assumed I'd gotten older but they had stayed same ages ), this point about Carter really hits home. Plus comments made in the thread about his drumsticks that he seems "less joyful" in recent years, less energized though still a great drummer and showman.

I'll also say this though... I'm not a massive Soundgarden or Temple of the Dog fan, but I do love them and respect both a lot. When Soundgarden last toured I thought "How much trouble will I go through to see a show since they're not playing my city?" and work and parenting just meant no, too much trouble, not gonna do it. And we all know what tragedy interrupted that tour...

So I also don't even assume any band I like has 6-7 yrs left. I look at the opportunity to see a band I'm serious about seeing as "Do what you can to get there, because you just never know...." Just like with Roi, who would have ever predicted a 4-wheeler accident? So hopefully they have 7, 10, longer left (Hello Rolling Stones!). But I don't assume anything, and I will go when I can, or make it happen if I can.

[GraceBuckley]

And on the above, I also ENJOY IT when I get there, I try to be fully in the moment and remember to enjoy it like I may not see it again. I did that with a band I love that's only been around for 5 yrs, members all in their 20s and 30s, and all signs point to a VERY long career for them. But I treated my last couple of shows of theirs on their last tour as if I might never see then again, tries to relish them. Last show of theirs was end of Nov 2019. Thank gosh I relished it, who could have imagined 2020 being what it was...

[RSSR]

I saw the Stones in Denver in 2019, Charlie Watts is still very much their drummer and he's 79 now. Carter could easily keep going for another decade.

[grilldanmo]

Originally Posted by RSSR

I saw the Stones in Denver in 2019, Charlie Watts is still very much their drummer and he's 79 now. Carter could easily keep going for another decade.

If he stays healthy he could go on for decadeS, but he's a much different drummer than Charlie. He will lose strength, speed, etc. As a master musician, however, he will adapt and create new wonderful parts. Many fans will neither notice nor mind, but others will...hopefully they are equally adaptive.

[Dodo36]

The Stones also had quite a break from touring; DMB has been at it pretty much non-stop since their inception. The Band made The Last Waltz as a way to quit after 12 years on the road because they thought continuing was tempting fate. A different era, to be sure, but 30 years of nearly non-stop touring takes a toll. Carter still seems to be loving it, and hopefully nothing arthritic comes into view

[HonestDenver1]

Originally Posted by Route_2

I don't see them getting rid of Tim as long as he wants to be there. There are so many songs now where the lead electric is an integral part. Seven, Why I Am, Rooftop, YMDT, Corn Bread, etc.

I suppose they could pull those or rework them, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

I really wish they'd just get more creative with the who gets leads in those parts. I don't like that Tim has just "covered" for Boyd's parts on almost everything since he left.. Example: the song that jane likes.. That intro does not need Tim solo ing all over it hap hazardly.. It's like it was thrown on a set in 2018 and they just looked at Tim to play something there, but he's never really defined the part... It's lazy at best and they could easily do something creative and new with it. They do this with Ants, Billies, Seek Up.. Just a few classics that IMO if they don't add a violin again, just need a refresh in what is going to be done with them...

[KevinTH]

What are we considering the 20th anniversary of Lillywhite Sessions? There needs to be a thread for that. It was sometime in March 01, I know that. That would make a great thread for some stories.

[sean52692]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

What are we considering the 20th anniversary of Lillywhite Sessions? There needs to be a thread for that. It was sometime in March 01, I know that. That would make a great thread for some stories.

https://i.imgur.com/6k8Lr0E.gif

[Xcacel]

I love this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FsQ54VrOJ1s

[TypicalBilly14]

The merchandise from the Millers website shop is legit, including their snapback hats and shirts.

[kmb40oz]

Let's get the band back together! I was hoping to get some news about a DMB tour and of course the new album, it's been way too long without any good news from DMB.


Gov't Mule is playing live shows again. Nothing stopping DMB from doing the same.


https://jambands.com/news/2021/03/15...eid=d8508f7754

Gov’t Mule will return to the stage on April 30 and May 1 at The Westville Music Bowl in New Haven, Conn.

Organizers promise “the full concert experience of stadium-quality staging, sound, lights, and video in a socially distanced, outdoor environment.”

Seats will be sold in pods of two or four

[Dodo36]

Although, I would have to imagine the expected attendance for both is a bit disprportionate

[SPAC_Boy]

Anyone here have a good legal source for 3.7.1999? Not sure if there is a SBD, matrix or a really good tape for it?

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by SPAC_Boy

Anyone here have a good legal source for 3.7.1999? Not sure if there is a SBD, matrix or a really good tape for it?

Is this recording really bad? I haven't listened.

https://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=338697

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

They should make an album one day called "The Best of What's Around Vol. 2" and it should have one disc full of unreleased studio tracks, and another full of live performances. It'd be a counterpart to the greatest hits album, like Devo's "Greatest Misses".

[jwrice5]

Listening to CT this morning, and while it is by no means a cohesive album, there are some really good individual parts.

VITR is a great song. Period.

She is heavy, rocks, and I really dig it.

I don’t like the production of IOY but I love the song... so, yeah...I suppose same can be said for BBB

Again and Again is strong, even though I think they should have played up the horns a bit more.

I also like HOO, DYR, and WIW, but those should have been saved for a Dave solo album.

[mquerques92]

Originally Posted by jwrice5

Listening to CT this morning, and while it is by no means a cohesive album, there are some really good individual parts.

VITR is a great song. Period.

She is heavy, rocks, and I really dig it.

I don’t like the production of IOY but I love the song... so, yeah...I suppose same can be said for BBB

Again and Again is strong, even though I think they should have played up the horns a bit more.

I also like HOO, DYR, and WIW, but those should have been saved for a Dave solo album.

Theres only a very small handful of songs from the previous two albums that are as good as or better than these. If this album was more cohesive and better produced there was some real potential there.

[jwrice5]

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<b>VITR</b> is a great song. Period.<br>
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She is heavy, rocks, and I really dig it.<br>
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I don’t like the production of IOY but I love the song... so, yeah...I suppose same can be said for <b>BBB</b><br>
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<b>Again and Again</b> is strong, even though I think they should have played up the horns a bit more.<br>
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I also like HOO, DYR, and WIW, but those should have been saved for a Dave solo album.</div>
</div>Theres only a very small handful of songs from the previous two albums that are as good as or better than these. If this album was more cohesive and better produced there was some real potential there.

Agreed. They could have had a GREAT ep with this release, but they crammed in a bunch of stuff that doesn’t really go together.

CT is the anti-BTCS in terms of album cohesiveness.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

^ Just wait until the "Cavallo Sessions" leak in another 7 years. Seems that's how this band releases their best material. /s

Seriously though... I can't figure out why they shelved the 2015 album for 3 years only to cannibalize it. The epitome of over thinking it.

[ToySoldier#34]

I like CT more than anything since the ED/BS days, a lot of good stuff on it

[mquerques92]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

I like CT more than anything since the ED/BS days, a lot of good stuff on it

The songs are better, but the album is not (IMO).

I'd rank the songs for each of the last four albums like this:

SU
CT
BW
AFTW

But the actual albums like this:

BW
AFTW
CT
.
.
.
SU

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

I like CT more than anything since the ED/BS days, a lot of good stuff on it

Oh, absolutely. There's about 7 songs on the album that are some of their best studio tracks. It's just that 6 those 7 tracks that I love from CT happen to all be from the Cavallo sessions. I'm certain that the album would've been great instead of just good (imo) if they would've stuck with Cavallo. 2 full albums, 1 with Cavallo (2015), 1 with Batson (2018) would've worked better I think.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by mquerques92

The songs are better, but the album is not (IMO).

I'd rank the songs for each of the last four albums like this:

SU
CT
BW
AFTW

But the actual albums like this:

BW
AFTW
CT
.
.
.
SU

Yeah, I personally just look at albums as a group of songs, and with DMB a group of songs to be played live as they are a live band. That being said I like SU a lot more than most. I understand a lot of Ants put value on the cohesiveness of an album but it's just really not something I've ever put stock into.

[Xcacel]

I watched today this old Ants Marching at the Gorge, at I was blasted.
I need your knowledge here: anyone knows which year is this show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWB_IzhzEs