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[DavidLightman]

Dave's voice was fine in Tampa.

[Kevaroo]

Originally Posted by DavidLightman

Eh I disagree on the Tampa show performance wise. Was a ton better than what I saw of the webcast. Dave's voice was fine (was terrible on Tuesday). Boyd was good enough.

Middle of the road but much better than what I was expecting after the depressing webcast Tuesday...

I agree with you on his voice, but you can't take what you saw on the webcast as comparing it to actually being there. You of all people should know that.

[ryguy637]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Yes, a lot of people did, myself included.

Not as many people did

[DavidLightman]

True - Didn't look or sound good... Perhaps lowered my expectations enough to have a good time. Wanted 2 things from Tampa: 1) Dave to not have voice issues w/ WPB coming up, and 2) No ladies w/ WPB coming up. 2/2 was ok having not been at Tuesday....

[spiza]

If Daves Voice is Suffering its because he blew it out in Hartford last weekend. Truth

[crashintonickdm]

Fonz is a little baby

[highlanders]

for daves voice i hope after california they are done until next summer.. i know they'll probably go into the studio in early '15 but wel see what happens i guess... i want the caravans back in 2016 for 25th anniversary

[Dannyyankou]

Originally Posted by spiza

If Daves Voice is Suffering its because he blew it out in Hartford last weekend. Truth

Yeah, he voice was a lot better in Hartford. Closing with Halloween probably didn't help either.

[mthawk07]

Dave's voice is shot because they've played almost 100 more songs at this point in the tour than they did last year. But you all still demand more.

[highlanders]

Originally Posted by mthawk07

Dave's voice is shot because they've played almost 100 more songs at this point in the tour than they did last year. But you all still demand more.

Huh... There was more variety last year plain and simple

[KAK1154]

Originally Posted by erichartman

Let's not act like Kill the Preacher spent anytime being evolved. Same with Blackjack before it. It doesn't seem like they're "road testing" anything anymore, just playing unfinished, incomplete pieces

Hehe, I agree. I was just looking for an example, and KTP was the best I could come up with in recent years.

Originally Posted by thehammer316

I guess that sucks for everyone that goes to more than 2 shows a year. It wasn't like that always.

Just for kicks, I checked out a few random shows on dmbalmanac, from tours that are generally accepted to be great years. All of these are 1 nighters that immediately followed another 1 nighter at a nearby venue.

7/26/2004 Raleigh, NC (previous show was in Charlotte, NC)
8 repeats out of 18 songs

7/29/2000 San Bernardino, CA (previous show was in Chula Vista, CA)
6 repeats out of 17 songs

8/5/1998 Columbus, OH (previous show was in Burgettstown, PA)
12 repeats out of 15 songs (granted, two of those were ASTB & PNP, so call it 10 repeats out of 13 songs)

Hmmm, maybe it has always been like this.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by highlanders

Huh... There was more variety last year plain and simple

i don't think he was talking about variety...

[davem#36]

Originally Posted by KAK1154

Hehe, I agree. I was just looking for an example, and KTP was the best I could come up with in recent years.



Just for kicks, I checked out a few random shows on dmbalmanac, from tours that are generally accepted to be great years. All of these are 1 nighters that immediately followed another 1 nighter at a nearby venue.

7/26/2004 Raleigh, NC (previous show was in Charlotte, NC)
8 repeats out of 18 songs

7/29/2000 San Bernardino, CA (previous show was in Chula Vista, CA)
6 repeats out of 17 songs

8/5/1998 Columbus, OH (previous show was in Burgettstown, PA)
12 repeats out of 15 songs (granted, two of those were ASTB & PNP, so call it 10 repeats out of 13 songs)

Hmmm, maybe it has always been like this.

Well 98 had only 3 albums
2000 had 4(including LWS)
2004 had 5

I can see why there were a lot of repeats back then but now they have 8 studio albums and about 1.5 albums worth of songs that came during different tours so I don't think it's a good argument. That 04 raleigh show is Amazing tho.

[highlanders]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

i don't think he was talking about variety...

you're right.. with the 2 sets they're playing more songs per night... read that wrong my bad

[Kevaroo]

Originally Posted by KAK1154

Hehe, I agree. I was just looking for an example, and KTP was the best I could come up with in recent years.



Just for kicks, I checked out a few random shows on dmbalmanac, from tours that are generally accepted to be great years. All of these are 1 nighters that immediately followed another 1 nighter at a nearby venue.

7/26/2004 Raleigh, NC (previous show was in Charlotte, NC)
8 repeats out of 18 songs

7/29/2000 San Bernardino, CA (previous show was in Chula Vista, CA)
6 repeats out of 17 songs

8/5/1998 Columbus, OH (previous show was in Burgettstown, PA)
12 repeats out of 15 songs (granted, two of those were ASTB & PNP, so call it 10 repeats out of 13 songs)

Hmmm, maybe it has always been like this.

You're forgetting the band has put 4 albums since the bottom two and 3 since 04. Also the top two still didn't have 10 repeats... Especially right after an article with Dave saying he looks through all of song stats as he's making the set.


Let's take these convos to the appropriate threads.

[KAK1154]

Originally Posted by davem#36

I can see why there were a lot of repeats back then but now they have 8 studio albums and about 1.5 albums worth of songs that came during different tours so I don't think it's a good argument. That 04 raleigh show is Amazing tho.

I'm not not arguing that they can't play less repeats, or that they shouldn't play less repeats. I'm arguing that we should stop being so surprised at the number of repeats. I would think that anyone who follows this band would have noticed this trend by now. It's been 20 years.

Originally Posted by Kevaroo

You're forgetting the band has put 4 albums since the bottom two and 3 since 04. Also the top two still didn't have 10 repeats... Especially right after an article with Dave saying he looks through all of song stats as he's making the set.


Let's take these convos to the appropriate threads.

I'm not forgetting anything. All I said was, people shouldn't be surprised when there are 6+ repeats from 1-nighter to 1-nighter, because the band has never/rarely demonstrated anything different. If anyone thinks this is a false assertion, I welcome the data.

[TehCreekFluff]

I think the sets have become predictable because of the acoustic set. Certain songs are played at the beginning, middle, and end of both sets. One large set was a larger canvas to paint IMO.

[Kevaroo]

Please take these conversations to the appropriate threads.

[TehCreekFluff]

Originally Posted by Kevaroo

I agree with you on his voice, but you can't take what you saw on the webcast as comparing it to actually being there. You of all people should know that.

Please take these conversations to the appropriate threads.

[TehCreekFluff]

Originally Posted by Kevaroo

Hence why people are no longer going to multiple shows a year. I certainly will not.

Please take these conversations to the appropriate threads.

[TehCreekFluff]

Originally Posted by Kevaroo

If it were my only show I wouldn't have been upset but I wouldn't have wanted to see another show. The acoustic set wasn't as acoustic as the night before, if that makes sense. Boyd overall was not good, was great on Ants but out of tune and screeched most of the night. Both Dave and Boyd turned what could have been an amazing SeeK Up into a shit show. Minarets was cool acoustic, much better the night before though, electric. So Right was great as was Granny. I enjoyed drunken soldier and was excited to hear it, but musically it was missing something and they didn't jam it. Jeff was turned down most of the night as was Rashawn. Loved I'll back you up, and recently. And the repeat if Snow Outside I enjoyed. Out of my 39 shows it was definitely a bottom 5, if I hadn't seen the show the night before probably bottom 12.

Please take these conversations to the appropriate threads.

[Kevaroo]

Can't see this ending well for you. You clearly didn't back read this thread or else you would have know this discussion was based around what had happened on Stefan's Twitter yesterday.

[hailtopitt]

[bamadavefan15]

Originally Posted by TehCreekFluff

Please take these conversations to the appropriate threads.

Originally Posted by TehCreekFluff

Please take these conversations to the appropriate threads.

Originally Posted by TehCreekFluff

Please take these conversations to the appropriate threads.

Real smart

[jrkarger]

:: peeks in ::

:: ducks as the ban hammer flies by ::

[highlanders]

Originally Posted by TehCreekFluff

Please take these conversations to the appropriate threads.

it's called back reading

[DMBstandUP1984]

Originally Posted by KAK1154

Hehe, I agree. I was just looking for an example, and KTP was the best I could come up with in recent years.



Just for kicks, I checked out a few random shows on dmbalmanac, from tours that are generally accepted to be great years. All of these are 1 nighters that immediately followed another 1 nighter at a nearby venue.

7/26/2004 Raleigh, NC (previous show was in Charlotte, NC)
8 repeats out of 18 songs

7/29/2000 San Bernardino, CA (previous show was in Chula Vista, CA)
6 repeats out of 17 songs

8/5/1998 Columbus, OH (previous show was in Burgettstown, PA)
12 repeats out of 15 songs (granted, two of those were ASTB & PNP, so call it 10 repeats out of 13 songs)

Hmmm, maybe it has always been like this.

Maine and Mansfield had 9 repeats

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[triplechin89]

Originally Posted by highlanders

it's called back reading

burnnnnnnn

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by Stefan

DMB built by playing the shit out of what we play when we play it, music first, song second, it's still that way, we don't mail in anything

We're sorry Stefan, we got the hint tonight.

[jray1823]

Here's some of that variation we've been looking for.................

Slessard:

“"@CollazoRay: my wife noticed that you wore glasses during the acoustic set in WPB but not the electric set.”

Contacts the 2nd set."