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Old 06-03-2018, 02:26 PM   #1
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6. Idea of You (4:44)

kinda surprised this thread wasn't here sooner?

06/02/2018 Tour debut (from the lawn, sorry) A better source will be available inevitably.

This sounds pretty straight forward. I wonder if they brought this song into the studio and performed it as-is for the album?
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    The album version is supposed to feature parts Roi laid down in ‘06 Haunted Hollow sessions with Batson.
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    Old 06-04-2018, 03:03 AM   #3
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    This is one of those songs that really misses the violin. Will be interesting to hear the album version..
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    Old 06-04-2018, 05:13 AM   #4
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

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    This is one of those songs that really misses the violin. Will be interesting to hear the album version..
    I think it’ll be fine, didn’t even notice at Blossom, it sounded great. Furthermore, I never thought of Boyd not being there once all weekend. Crazy to say, I think they’re better off without him.

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    Old 06-04-2018, 10:03 AM   #5
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    The Blossom version sounded great to me, I hope they kept it sped up in the album as well.
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    Old 06-04-2018, 11:16 AM   #6
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    i love this song - either format, can't ruin it for me
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    Old 06-04-2018, 11:30 AM   #7
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    Any new links/downloads of IOY besides the lawn video?
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    My money says this is the standout track of this album.
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    Old 06-05-2018, 12:57 PM   #9
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    Love that guitar riff. Lyrics are okay - they work in the context of the song. And I'm in the camp that doesn't really care if Carter uses the hi-hat, ride, or whatever... ha.

    Excited to hear this in a couple days.
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    Old 06-05-2018, 03:37 PM   #10
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    This is the drumming that we're likely to get on the studio cut, right?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOb8PI4wIo
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    Old 06-05-2018, 03:40 PM   #11
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

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    This is the drumming that we're likely to get on the studio cut, right?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOb8PI4wIo
    Correct

    https://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=347680
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    Old 06-05-2018, 03:42 PM   #12
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

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    This is the drumming that we're likely to get on the studio cut, right?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOb8PI4wIo
    Yes. Most people don’t like this drum pattern as much. I agree that the other pattern is better BUT this LT14 version is a prime example that it doesn’t ruin the song. Listen to it, then listen to the LT44 version immediately after. LT44 has the “better” drum pattern, but I am of the opinion that the LT14 IOY is way better.
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

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    Yes. Most people don’t like this drum pattern as much. I agree that the other pattern is better BUT this LT14 version is a prime example that it doesn’t ruin the song. Listen to it, then listen to the LT44 version immediately after. LT44 has the “better” drum pattern, but I am of the opinion that the LT14 IOY is way better.
    Yeah, I like the non-Coldplay style drumming better, but I find enjoyment in both styles, so it doesn't affect me any... not like leaving out the 3rd verse of Grey Street (and adding a bit more lyrics to the chorus each run through), or saying "good" instead of "sweet" at the end of the Sugar Will chorus. Those changes always eat at me a bit, even though the songs still aren't "ruined" for me because of those changes.
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    Old 06-05-2018, 05:06 PM   #14
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

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    Yeah, I like the non-Coldplay style drumming better, but I find enjoyment in both styles, so it doesn't affect me any... not like leaving out the 3rd verse of Grey Street (and adding a bit more lyrics to the chorus each run through), or saying "good" instead of "sweet" at the end of the Sugar Will chorus. Those changes always eat at me a bit, even though the songs still aren't "ruined" for me because of those changes.

    Like how I felt about Satellite when I heard After Her for the first time...
    This feeling seems to be a hallmark of the fandom of this band, I suppose. Even if we only get one official studio version, we're fortunate to have decent to near studio live versions of all of these songs as they have evolved. Can't think of any other band that you have such access to the evolution of the songwriting process like DMB.
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    Old 06-05-2018, 05:23 PM   #15
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    Like how I felt about Satellite when I heard After Her for the first time...
    This feeling seems to be a hallmark of the fandom of this band, I suppose. Even if we only get one official studio version, we're fortunate to have decent to near studio live versions of all of these songs as they have evolved. Can't think of any other band that you have such access to the evolution of the songwriting process like DMB.
    Exactly this... If there's something we like or don't like, we can always seek/avoid it. And no, I can't think of any other band that gives you access to live material (and the song evolution process) like with DMB.

    Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks both have interesting studio album re-issues which let you in on the song evolution process from a "demo to final studio cut" viewpoint, and have released some live material which differs in sound style depending upon which tour it was from, but it's nowhere near as extensive as DMB's is. DMB's more from a live setting and FM/SN's more from a studio setting.
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    Old 06-05-2018, 05:47 PM   #16
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    Any new links/downloads of IOY besides the lawn video?
    Taper audio:
    https://www.antsmarching.org/forum/s...5&postcount=96
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    Old 06-05-2018, 05:50 PM   #17
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    Batson sure is talking this song up a great deal: (the first comment is in reference to Shotgun- really wish they would release the track they laid)

    markbatsonrocks@kat41ny ok. I absolutely love it. We worked on and wrote it together. It’s a stunning and beautiful piece of melancholy art. Hope he plays it again soon!! I definitely want to play it at Hollywood Bowl!!! Idea Of You on the album is the best production I have ever worked on. The vocal performance is LIFE!! And Leroi!!!!!
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    Old 06-05-2018, 05:53 PM   #18
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    My main concern with IOY is chunking power chords during the chorus like the 2016 versions. Way more detrimental than the snare pattern. I can reallly tell with the taper audio if that is happening or not.
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    Old 06-05-2018, 05:58 PM   #19
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    Has it been said yet that 4:44 is not a good indication of the tempo of the studio version? Since there is no separate track for the live intro on Apple Music/iTunes/Spotify then 4:44 surely includes whatever the live intro is.
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    Old 06-05-2018, 06:18 PM   #20
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    The live intro is very short, basically some crowd noise that fades into the track. Basically a few seconds.
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    Old 06-05-2018, 06:25 PM   #21
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    Love the version from Saturday. Thought it sounds great. Can't wait to hear Roi
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

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    Batson sure is talking this song up a great deal: (the first comment is in reference to Shotgun- really wish they would release the track they laid)

    markbatsonrocks@kat41ny ok. I absolutely love it. We worked on and wrote it together. It’s a stunning and beautiful piece of melancholy art. Hope he plays it again soon!! I definitely want to play it at Hollywood Bowl!!! Idea Of You on the album is the best production I have ever worked on. The vocal performance is LIFE!! And Leroi!!!!!
    Mark Batson is really fucking annoying. Why does he write like a 13 year old who's just smoked their first joint?
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    Sounded like idea was played different last night in chorus from sat...or am I wrong.
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    Sounded like idea was played different last night in chorus from sat...or am I wrong.
    Would be really cool if they play all of the different ways its been played over the years this tour (hi hat, ride, "all grown up and moved away" lyrical outro, slow intro, fast intro, etc). A true "past, present and future" treatment of the song.
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

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    Thanks as always, Chad!!!!

    Also just noticed on Tapatalk clicking the "show spoiler" button on your 2018 Tour Audio post only shows like 5 songs, but on PC the whole list is available. Weird.
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    Posted in the album discussion thread but I'll say it again, I can't imagine having the ears that can listen to the clocks drumming on this song and hear it as the same tune. It absolutely ruins the entire feel of this tune. Such a shame and such a dumbass move by Carter. This is once again the obvious where no one in the band is ok speaking up to each other about bad musical decisions.
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    Posted in the album discussion thread but I'll say it again, I can't imagine having the ears that can listen to the clocks drumming on this song and hear it as the same tune. It absolutely ruins the entire feel of this tune. Such a shame and such a dumbass move by Carter. This is once again the obvious where no one in the band is ok speaking up to each other about bad musical decisions.
    Absolutely agree. Mind boggling decision to bring the Coldplay drumming back. Makes no sense for the song, nor his talent.
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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    so I’m just gonna say it:

    the studio version reminds me of someone at a karaoke bar singing Idea of You. Singing it fairly well all things considered, but still.


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    Re: 6. Idea of You (4:44)

    Well, as expected, this is the best song on the album.
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    What do you mean the studio version of IOY reminds you of Karaoke? How have you heard the studio version already?
    NVM, I just saw the thread of it getting leaked on twitter. That's kind of disappointing. Are we gonna blame Stefan again just like Lillywhite sessions? lol
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