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Old 07-12-2017, 11:17 AM   #631
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What better way to celebrate the band's 25th anniversary with rare songs available only to 2500 people. Nice.
The band could have celebrated it with rare songs played live to 710,215 people.
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    Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)

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    Every RSD release has

    1) come with a download
    2) been released later to the masses on the online store
    3) previously released material we already had.

    I'm fine with a limited run of vinyl, I'm even fine with the extra stuff being exclusive to the vinyl. I'm not fine with no other option to buy the music being mentioned officially by management.
    The Live Trax vinyl didn't come with a download, it was a different mastering than the digital release so there has not been a digital download made available of the Scott Hull masterings for the vinyl releases featuring less dynamic range compression. There has not been a digital download made available of the Chris Bellman mastering of Crash or Red Rocks 95.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:22 AM   #633
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    Every RSD release has

    1) come with a download
    2) been released later to the masses on the online store
    3) previously released material we already had.

    I'm fine with a limited run of vinyl, I'm even fine with the extra stuff being exclusive to the vinyl. I'm not fine with no other option to buy the music being mentioned officially by management.
    Is that true? I don't recall my pink RSD from Michigan coming with a download card. Red Rocks did. I also don't recall the black LT's coming with a card either. Recently did I believe.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:23 AM   #634
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    The Live Trax vinyl didn't come with a download, it was a different mastering than the digital release so there has not been a digital download made available of the Scott Hull masterings for the vinyl releases featuring less dynamic range compression. There has not been a digital download made available of the Chris Bellman mastering of Crash or Red Rocks 95.
    Didn't realize that, as I know nothing about or care about the different mastering stuff. Either way all the RSD music has been released before and in other formats. So I can listen to the professionally mixed tracks. That's all I care about.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:26 AM   #635
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    Is that true? I don't recall my pink RSD from Michigan coming with a download card. Red Rocks did. I also don't recall the black LT's coming with a card either. Recently did I believe.
    The one record I bought from DMB had a code. If the RSD didn't I apologize for my inaccurate statement. The point was no songs have been exclusive to RSD. At this point the DMB LIVE 25 is something not offered in a format I can use. This bothers me.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:34 AM   #636
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    Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)

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    The Live Trax vinyl didn't come with a download, it was a different mastering than the digital release so there has not been a digital download made available of the Scott Hull masterings for the vinyl releases featuring less dynamic range compression. There has not been a digital download made available of the Chris Bellman mastering of Crash or Red Rocks 95.
    I thought RR95 came with a d/l code? was that just the original CD master?
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:36 AM   #637
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    I thought RR95 came with a d/l code? was that just the original CD master?
    Yes, as was Crash's download card
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:37 AM   #638
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    Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)

    well that sucks, didn't know
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:38 AM   #639
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    Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)

    Another one has hit ebay. $300

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRE-ORDER-20...sAAOSwpINZZXdn
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:41 AM   #640
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    For anyone who is talking about leaving it sealed, I have one question: Are you planning to sell it?

    If you're not, I see zero value in not opening it. At least look at the thing you just dropped some cash on.
    I have a bad habit of buying things like this and leaving them unopened in my basement with the expectation that I will sell them at some point. I have yet to sell anything.

    I keep fighting the urge to buy this set. Hopefully, it sells out soon.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:54 AM   #641
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    that listing is actually for 2 of them.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:55 AM   #642
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    that listing is actually for 2 of them.
    Not sure how that seller got 2 copies. They cap it at 1. Unless he got a second Warehouse account just to buy a second copy to flip.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:56 AM   #643
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    The re sale value of these 2500 presses will be astronomical
    I'm hoping.

    I had a fellow Warehouse Member grab another for me.

    Hoping to sell that one and pay for mine plus that one.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:58 AM   #644
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    Not sure how that seller got 2 copies. They cap it at 1. Unless he got a second Warehouse account just to buy a second copy to flip.
    pretty easily probably, either has two accounts and multiple addresses to ship to or just had a friend with an account order one.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 11:59 AM   #645
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    Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)

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    like the shine on box set set up
    Yeah... 1992

    My fav set as well.

    The Discovery Set to me can't compete with Shine On.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 12:03 PM   #646
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    Yeah... 1992

    My fav set as well.

    The Discovery Set to me can't compete with Shine On.
    I have the Oh By the Way set, I like that better in a way because of the quality of the packaging. I have Shine On too
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    Old 07-12-2017, 12:03 PM   #647
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    yeah I would say just do it. If you don't, you might regret it. Just in case.
    I've bitten the bullet and ordered it, think I would've regretted it if I'd let it slip...
    Now to see if there are any other formats made available in the future, that would make perfect sense!
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    Old 07-12-2017, 12:12 PM   #648
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    The one record I bought from DMB had a code. If the RSD didn't I apologize for my inaccurate statement. The point was no songs have been exclusive to RSD. At this point the DMB LIVE 25 is something not offered in a format I can use. This bothers me.
    Yes, this is true.

    Having something only available in vinyl is something that Jack White does, but few others I believe..
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    Old 07-12-2017, 12:20 PM   #649
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    this is speculative selling and it preys on idiots. these are the exact same people who put tickets for shows on stubhub for 1500 (and trick business insider into saying that DMB tickets "are going for 1500").

    that guy knows he can get a box set for less than 300. it's a matter of tricking someone else into thinking that they can't.

    putting something up for a price is not the same thing as that something actually selling for that price
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    Old 07-12-2017, 12:22 PM   #650
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    Not sure how that seller got 2 copies. They cap it at 1. Unless he got a second Warehouse account just to buy a second copy to flip.
    I can assure that at this moment in time that seller has 0 copies. he is speculating. it happens in every presale of every item. he knows/bets he can get his hands on them for less than what he sells them for.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 12:23 PM   #651
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    Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)

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    that listing is actually for 2 of them.
    Yeah, 2 available, for $300 each

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    Yes, this is true.

    Having something only available in vinyl is something that Jack White does, but few others I believe..
    There's many cases of vinyl only releases. As Doby noted, the LT sets did not have codes and the version of the mastering used is not available digitally for them or for Red Rocks and Crash 20th anniversary release
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    this is speculative selling and it preys on idiots. these are the exact same people who put tickets for shows on stubhub for 1500 (and trick business insider into saying that DMB tickets "are going for 1500").

    that guy knows he can get a box set for less than 300. it's a matter of tricking someone else into thinking that they can't.

    putting something up for a price is not the same thing as that something actually selling for that price
    Oh I'm aware of that. But I do think $300 is right around where the resale value will be in 6-12 months from the release.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 12:25 PM   #653
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    I disagree. I think 2500 is sufficient supply. I'm honestly skeptical that they'll sell out, at least immediately.
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    Old 07-12-2017, 12:27 PM   #654
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    Not sure how that seller got 2 copies. They cap it at 1. Unless he got a second Warehouse account just to buy a second copy to flip.
    I'd probably do this if I had a 2nd WH account honestly haha. Maybe that makes me a jerk but anyone who wants it enough can pre-order from the WH and I wouldn't mind a little profit helping to offset the price tag of the one I kept for myself.
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    I disagree. I think 2500 is sufficient supply. I'm honestly skeptical that they'll sell out, at least immediately.
    2,500 is really not that many. There's a big enough fan base + record collectors who would want this to drive up the price. Look at the % increase of the live trax box sets as evidence. Hell, RR95 had a bigger pressing for RSD on silver (3Kish) and that's sold for as high as $174 and the lowest currently listed on discogs is at $120, which is a 50% higher than the retail price. I have no reason to suspect a different case for this. So just applying the 50%, you're looking at $260ish
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    you can't just apply a multiplier with no context

    those markups were over a fairly reasonable retail price

    175 is not a reasonable retail price
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    YNK is 100% about the speculative selling. Have a friend who does it. Hate that he does.
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    175 for a "limited edition" with a throw-in book and box is the "premium package" of merchandise sales

    you are already paying the scalper's/flipper's premium, you're just paying it directly to the band
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    you can't just apply a multiplier with no context

    those markups were over a fairly reasonable retail price

    175 is not a reasonable retail price
    That's perhaps valid. But if no digital version comes, I think the $175 starts to look better and better.

    $30/disc + $25 for the book isn't really outside of what the vinyl market is around these days. We've been lucky that recent DMB releases have been at a far lower price than comparable releases. I'm not saying the market prices are fair, but the vinyl bubble is real

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    I have the Oh By the Way set, I like that better in a way because of the quality of the packaging.
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