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[KevinTH]

Great review, Mike. You have me even more excited to see this. I really hope Justice League follows in the same footsteps and DC starts heading in a more promising and hopeful direction!

[UCFish]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

The best way I could describe it would be this: It's the most "Marvel" of the DCEU films but is also much different. It's basically if Zack Snyder made the first Iron Man movie, with much better action and filmography, and instead of an asshole drunk millionaire the main character is a naive, hopeful, badass Amazonian princess warrior. It's a classic "coming of age" story and a true Hero's Journey.

That has me excited!

[M. Steng]

Oh, another thing that I wasn't crazy about was actually the special effects/CGI. It looked really just, not good? in parts. Something just felt "off" about it, especially some of the earlier scenes. Which is surprising, since I actually think the CGI in MoS and BvS was great and felt pretty "real" to the extent that that's possible. It was honestly a little distracting at parts but nothing major that took away from the story or action.

[UCFish]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Oh, another thing that I wasn't crazy about was actually the special effects/CGI. It looked really just, not good? in parts. Something just felt "off" about it, especially some of the earlier scenes. Which is surprising, since I actually think the CGI in MoS and BvS was great and felt pretty "real" to the extent that that's possible. It was honestly a little distracting at parts but nothing major that took away from the story or action.

Possibly why they kept the budget more in control on this picture?

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by UCFish

Possibly why they kept the budget more in control on this picture?

Maybe; I actually haven't looked into comparing what this budget was vs. the prior two DCEU movies (SS is dead to me and never happened and has been wiped from my memory).

The marketing seemed fairly robust for WW as well. I'm interested to see how it does at the box office. Estimates released like Wednesday said it could hit $190 million on opening weekend, which I believe would beat BvS.

[clayj41]

Mike: How does it compare to Captain America: The First Avenger, seeing as how that's been the benchmark analogy referenced in many reviews? Does it stop at the same naivete and hopefulness you referenced in her coming of age story or are there structural comparisons, apart from the fact that they are both set during World Wars?

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by clayj41

Mike: How does it compare to Captain America: The First Avenger, seeing as how that's been the benchmark analogy referenced in many reviews? Does it stop at the same naivete and hopefulness you referenced in her coming of age story or are there structural comparisons, apart from the fact that they are both set during World Wars?

Interesting question.

I'd say the comparisons really do stop at the optimism of both characters. And to be honest, CA:TFA is just way campier and feels so totally different than WW. I can see why they're compared but WW is leaps and bounds better. I mean, Steve Rogers was raised in Brooklyn and always wanted to fight in the army; he gets a shot of super steroids and his dreams basically come true right away (except the part where he was a performer or whatever about halfway through the movie). Diana, on the other hand, is raised on a hidden island with a group of mythical warriors totally removed from mankind. Steve knew about the atrocities of war and wanted to fight anyways, which is obviously noble in its own regard. Diana is a true fish-out-of-water that knows the world and war only through the stories she's told as a child.

That's my long-winded way of saying, no, other than the wartime setting and the optimistic tone of both characters, these two movies really are nothing alike. I'm sure some will draw some comparisons but really I did not see anything resembling Captain America: The First Avenger in Wonder Woman.

[aeroshady]

Didn't want to quote it, but thanks for the review! I am seeing the film tonight and can't wait!

[UCFish]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Maybe; I actually haven't looked into comparing what this budget was vs. the prior two DCEU movies (SS is dead to me and never happened and has been wiped from my memory).

The marketing seemed fairly robust for WW as well. I'm interested to see how it does at the box office. Estimates released like Wednesday said it could hit $190 million on opening weekend, which I believe would beat BvS.

190 was worldwide not domestic. So it would not be close to BvS. After 11 Mil last night and if plays like a Marvel movie and not a front loaded DC movie for domestic it would fall between 84 and 112. Both would be great for a smaller budget standalone movie.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#68d2df9f4f7a

[fridge112887]

Not to take away from the WW talk (which I have to wait until Saturday to see ), but this has to mean something, yeah?

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batma...enguin-a151537

[KevinTH]

I am so down for Penguin to show up in a new Batman movie! But he has to be done right. If they did something in the same light as the Arkham games I would be sold on the character 100%. It was an interesting artistic choice Burton made for Batman Returns (such a crap movie), but not my cup of tea. I want to see a really menacing and mob boss take on the character.

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

I am so down for Penguin to show up in a new Batman movie! But he has to be done right. If they did something in the same light as the Arkham games I would be sold on the character 100%. It was an interesting artistic choice Burton made for Batman Returns (such a crap movie), but not my cup of tea. I want to see a really menacing and mob boss take on the character.

I think the Penguin in Gotham has been great. Probably the best take on the character so far. Just the show lost a lot of quality after the first season.

[KevinTH]

Originally Posted by aeroshady

I think the Penguin in Gotham has been great. Probably the best take on the character so far. Just the show lost a lot of quality after the first season.

HUGE Batman fan, but Gotham just didn't work for me. I did like the Penguin, but overall I found the show to be incredibly underwhelming. I thought the acting was terrible and the story to be to campy. I tried diving back in a few times, but I just couldn't get into it.

[UCFish]

Jada was acting in another show it seemed.

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

HUGE Batman fan, but Gotham just didn't work for me. I did like the Penguin, but overall I found the show to be incredibly underwhelming. I thought the acting was terrible and the story to be to campy. I tried diving back in a few times, but I just couldn't get into it.

Over all I agree that Gotham was not great. I just felt Penguin was the highlight of the show.

[TwoStep2888]

seeing WW tonight

[UCFish]

Going Tuesday night

[fridge112887]

Went yesterday, loved it. Probably pulling a Steven Glansberg and going again sometime this week.

[Jake]

really liked Wonder Woman a lot - great story - great pacing. Very very enjoyable.

was that Apache Chief?


that'd be awesome if it was

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[fridge112887]

He's just listed as "The Chief"

[fridge112887]

Patty Jenkins stated that WW2 will take place in America (and I'm guessing during modern day)

[Jake]

Originally Posted by fridge112887

He's just listed as "The Chief"

looked pretty Apache to me...

n/r

[TwoStep2888]

really enjoyed WW, agree with whomever compared it to Captain America First Avenger, it had a similar earnestness to it

[Jake]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

really enjoyed WW, agree with whomever compared it to Captain America First Avenger, it had a similar earnestness to it

my son said the same thing - reminded him of CA.

then we got into a fiery debate on what war was in WW - he kept insisting it was WWII until I offered to bet him 3 billion dollars I was right.

[TwoStep2888]

haha well with the recent exception of the new Battlefield game, WWI doesn't get a lot of media vs WWII

[UCFish]

Glad to hear all the great reviews in here....don't regret for a second trading my Pirates 5 ticket tomorrow for WW.

[WidespreadMule3]

Thought WW was pretty good. Definitely reminiscent of Captain America 1 but not terrible.

However, I couldn't really enjoy the movie because the turd sitting next to me would not stop talking the whole movie. It wasn't so much he was carrying on conversations, he was basically narrating the movie. "Oh, she's strong." "Look at her throw a tank!" "He done messed up." So obnoxious.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

Thought WW was pretty good. Definitely reminiscent of Captain America 1 but not terrible.

However, I couldn't really enjoy the movie because the turd sitting next to me would not stop talking the whole movie. It wasn't so much he was carrying on conversations, he was basically narrating the movie. "Oh, she's strong." "Look at her throw a tank!" "He done messed up." So obnoxious.

You should've just told him to shut the fuck up, then.

I have absolutely no qualms about telling people to put their phones away, shut up, etc. during a movie. It's so fucking disrespectful to the other theatergoers. One of life's biggest pet peeves.

[UCFish]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

You should've just told him to shut the fuck up, then.

I have absolutely no qualms about telling people to put their phones away, shut up, etc. during a movie. It's so fucking disrespectful to the other theatergoers. One of life's biggest pet peeves.

[TMoore4075]

I'm happy to hear the reviews both from critics and people. I might need to try and see it in the theaters. I was gonna wait until video since my expectations weren't high.

Yeah people talking drives me nuts. I had that twice during two views of X2. One girl kept making like little comments "oo that could mean so many things" like when there was a double entendre. And after the 2nd time I said are you fucking serious and she didn't look at me but you could tell she heard.