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Old 07-23-2020, 11:07 PM   #1
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The Next Studio album.

What are some safe bets as to what the next studio album will be?
*Another Come Tomorrow like album - some outtakes/leftovers + some newer songs.
*A completely fresh new one - eight years this year since Away from the World.
*Another Busted Stuff like album - lots of it is re-recording material from other sessions (Most of Busted Stuff is re-recording the tracks recorded with Steve Lillywhite in Early 2000).
*Another Dave solo album - seventeen years since the one he has (Some Devil).
Any insiders know anything.
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    The safest bet regarding the next album is that some people will love it, and some will hate it, but absolutely everyone will eventually grow to consider it middle of the road compared to the rest of the band’s work.
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    Old 07-23-2020, 11:48 PM   #3
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    The safest bet regarding the next album is that some people will love it, and some will hate it, but absolutely everyone will eventually grow to consider it middle of the road compared to the rest of the bandís work.
    What "content" will it contain? Of the four choices I posted at the top of this post.
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    Old 07-24-2020, 01:50 AM   #4
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    Bismarck
    Death on the High Seas
    Kill the King
    Shadows on the singing from the windows wall

    Songs I could realistically see being on a new album I’d predict it’s a couple of those and then mostly new stuff

    I don’t know a single inside detail. Just my speculation from what I’ve seen lately from them. I do believe they’ll get in the studio ASAP with Buddy. Plenty of times to write when the world is on fire and you’re stuck at home
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    Old 07-24-2020, 02:44 AM   #5
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    Dave himself already said in an interview in the past year that he thinks it's a good way to do albums or whatever, a mix of a few old cuts with new songs he's written. Whatever the quote was. But yes, I think that's what they'll do unfortunately.

    I'd much prefer the entire band sitting in the studio together writing a totally new one, as much as I love older tracks not released yet.
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    Forget Stand Up... you're going to want to Sit Down for this one: DMB's first-ever EDM album, produced by Skrillex!
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    Old 07-24-2020, 08:04 AM   #7
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    I think they will finish up Come Tomorrow part 2. Especially with covid, they are possibly working remotely on finishing that up. Like Come Tomorrow, I think weíll see a mix of some Cavallo tracks, some Batson tracks and hopefully some new tracks with Alagia. I donít think Daveís new song will be on the album, at least I personally hope not. Itís a nice song, but should be left as what it is. A man singing from his ďwindowĒ during quarantine.

    Cavallo:
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    - Death on the High Seas
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    Forget Stand Up... you're going to want to Sit Down for this one: DMB's first-ever EDM album, produced by Skrillex!
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    and let's not forget Spotlight still NEEDS to be released before I die.
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    Old 07-24-2020, 12:10 PM   #10
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    Given DMB's track record for new studio work since 2001, I don't think we need another new album ever again. They have better luck with road testing new "live" songs (2004, 2006, etc) than they do actually recording anything in studio.

    Big Whiskey was a highlight, and showed actual studio effort from the full band, but was just overplayed on subsequent tours.

    Everyday, Stand Up, AFTW, Come Tomorrow... these all sound like half-DMB, half-Dave solo albums, neither of which is ever really satisfied to its true potential. A few bright spots here and there, but there has not been a single top to bottom great DMB album since 1998. DMB is a live band, always have been. Just play live, let songs develop on stage if they have new material, or just play the old stuff. New studio work is more often than a disappointment from this band, and that's just a sad reality. I say play to their strengths, and that strength is on stage - not in a studio.
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

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    Bismarck
    Death on the High Seas
    Kill the King
    Shadows on the singing from the windows wall

    Songs I could realistically see being on a new album Iíd predict itís a couple of those and then mostly new stuff

    I donít know a single inside detail. Just my speculation from what Iíve seen lately from them. I do believe theyíll get in the studio ASAP with Buddy. Plenty of times to write when the world is on fire and youíre stuck at home
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    I assume it'll be another piecemeal album like CT. I don't expect the band to book a studio for two months and do nothing but create music. I think those days are over. This isn't our girl T-Swift who just dropped a completely brand new album out of nowhere.
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    Old 07-24-2020, 01:15 PM   #13
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    The frustrating part is that they could have released a double album of previously recorded material if they wanted to. Just organize the tunes how you'd like, press it, and sell it to us...

    I don't care who's on the tracks vs who's currently in the band, I'd just like to have the tunes...ESPECIALLY stuff we've never heard live or the full band do.

    Also the days of people needing to be in a studio, the same room(s), same state, or same country even have long since passed. You may not get the precise real time interaction, but...
    - Dave, Fonz, whoever can lay down a part
    - the rest of the guys can listen/record
    - they can react musically over the recording live for the other guys
    - back and forth for hours

    If they "needed" to be in a physical space together, the guys in BNL have gone back into the studio... They've gotten tested, distance themselves, wear masks when needed, etc. So it can be done safely even if you have families.

    It's pretty apparent that Dave and/or the band aren't in any rush. There's nothing stopping them if they really wanted to record and release some music.
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    They need to do the complete opposite of what they did for Come Tomorrow because that album sucks. There's a ton of reasons why I feel that way but a few of the major reasons are:

    -They mixed and matched old songs with new songs causing the album to have no flow. On top of that, Can't Stop is just horrible...pick better older songs (it is 10x better with the middle eastern jam that was of course cut).
    -Batson should only be brought in for older 2006 songs. Everything else should be created with other producers. At this point I would welcome Lillywhite (of course), but if he is not an option (he's almost certainly not), I would prefer a producer they've never worked with before; a blank slate.
    -The majority of the songs on CT were created by Dave, by himself. The songs they've created as a band, in a studio together, tend to be their best songs.
    -Production on some of the songs (IOY stands out) is just really really shitty. I listened to Taylor Swift's new album this morning and was blown away by the production. It just feels lazy and gimmicky on CT.
    -Listen to the fans. Barely anybody liked Be Yourself but for some reason Dave still included bkbkdkbkdk on the album. Everybody likes Bismark and it's not on the album.
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

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    The frustrating part is that they could have released a double album of previously recorded material if they wanted to. Just organize the tunes how you'd like, press it, and sell it to us...

    I don't care who's on the tracks vs who's currently in the band, I'd just like to have the tunes...ESPECIALLY stuff we've never heard live or the full band do.

    Also the days of people needing to be in a studio, the same room(s), same state, or same country even have long since passed. You may not get the precise real time interaction, but...
    - Dave, Fonz, whoever can lay down a part
    - the rest of the guys can listen/record
    - they can react musically over the recording live for the other guys
    - back and forth for hours

    If they "needed" to be in a physical space together, the guys in BNL have gone back into the studio... They've gotten tested, distance themselves, wear masks when needed, etc. So it can be done safely even if you have families.

    It's pretty apparent that Dave and/or the band aren't in any rush. There's nothing stopping them if they really wanted to record and release some music.
    Who said they haven't recorded again post Come Tomorrow?
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    It's pretty apparent that Dave and/or the band aren't in any rush. There's nothing stopping them if they really wanted to record and release some music.
    You never know. We saw Stefan playing along with the Shadows Wall Singing song on Twitter. They could drop an album this year at any point or drop one next year before the summer tour. I would logically expect that to happen since basically their entire 2020 was canceled and Dave is writing new stuff already. This is pretty unprecedented for them to have this much down time, SURELY they can wrap up an album before we see them live again.
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    I think the rumored flirtation of it being the pre-gap hidden track on Red Rocks is as close as it'll ever come. And rightfully so.
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    You never know. We saw Stefan playing along with the Shadows Wall Singing song on Twitter. They could drop an album this year at any point or drop one next year before the summer tour. I would logically expect that to happen since basically their entire 2020 was canceled and Dave is writing new stuff already. This is pretty unprecedented for them to have this much down time, SURELY they can wrap up an album before we see them live again.
    This is what's frustrating to me as a big fan, is that they have all this time with the tour being canceled, but the chances they're in the studio are probably not high. Instead Dave spends his time in the CHOP zone and Biden benefits. Everything is so hush hush with them. I just don't see them surprising us with an album release as much as I'd like them to, along with the rest of the fanbase.
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    Old 07-24-2020, 02:11 PM   #19
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    Who said they haven't recorded again post Come Tomorrow?
    I haven't seen anyone say that, include me.

    I did say that they weren't in a rush to release anything OR to record anything since the pandemic. Other artists have over the last few months, be it remotely or more recently in person. Several have released archived material while others have written, recorded, and released new material during this time. It seems clear that Dave has written/is writing material, but we've heard nothing shared/confirmed about recording for months.

    Obviously I'm not in the loop so I wouldn't know, but have they spent anytime in the studio this year? Serious question to anyone that has info.
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    You never know. We saw Stefan playing along with the Shadows Wall Singing song on Twitter. They could drop an album this year at any point or drop one next year before the summer tour. I would logically expect that to happen since basically their entire 2020 was canceled and Dave is writing new stuff already. This is pretty unprecedented for them to have this much down time, SURELY they can wrap up an album before we see them live again.
    This is what I've been hoping. Perfect opportunity to work on material. During 2019 Dave was saying that they were working on stuff, that he, Fonz, and even Buddy were working on material that he was excited about.

    There is currently no technological barrier to this stuff being developed and recorded. It's definitely a different process from what they've done and how they've generally worked in the past, but other artists have been doing this for decades. Yes recorded their Talk album this way more than two decades ago.

    So again, we've seen no public sense of urgency to release new music. That said, they've had a history of going in and out of sharing their process over the years.

    An archival release would have been awesome in and of itself, but I'd LOVE an album of all new band material.
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    I've liked a lot of the songwriting in the last 5 years or so, always happy to get more
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    Old 07-24-2020, 03:24 PM   #22
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    I've liked a lot of the songwriting in the last 5 years or so, always happy to get more
    Agreed. We love CT, so if that's what happens again we'll be good...as long as like the archival selections and the new tunes.

    It's always a crapshoot, so we'll just wait and listen.
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    Would love to see a Dave solo acoustic album, followed-up by a solo acoustic tour.

    But I’ll take a new band album of old/new tunes.
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    Would love to see a Dave solo acoustic album, followed-up by a solo acoustic tour.

    But Iíll take a new band album of old/new tunes.
    Or a Dave & Tim of new/original music.
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    Would love to see a Dave solo acoustic album, followed-up by a solo acoustic tour.

    But Iíll take a new band album of old/new tunes.
    Strictly just Dave or add in other parts here and there?
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    Just give me a new studio album fully exploring the new dynamic of the band, and I'll be good. They can add strings/guests/whoever, but give me a fully realized album with Buddy being used creatively as well as stronger horns.
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    I’m not super interested in a studio album at this point. I liked CT, save for the title track. I thought it was decent and at least interesting. Black and Blue Bird and Again and Again are the kinds of songS I’d like to hear out of the next album.
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    Agreed. We love CT, so if that's what happens again we'll be good...as long as like the archival selections and the new tunes.

    It's always a crapshoot, so we'll just wait and listen.

    It's my favorite album of theirs since the early 00's. I think if they were to include older songs on a new album again Sugar Will, Kill the King, Bismarck, Death on the High Seas and Break For It would be one hell of a starting point.

    Sugar Will - great groove, most people love it

    Kill the King - they could benefit greatly from having an aggressive song featured on a new album, all of their singles are soft and all the same feel. There is a reason why people who don't look further than what they hear on the radio think they only play soft songs like WAYG, Y&M, Mercy etc. and have no idea songs like Last Stop and Minarets exist.

    Bismarck - most people love it and wanted it on CT, also good opportunity to highlight Jeff on an album where all hardcore fans will want more sax

    DoTHS - continue with the eerie Radiohead feel from ViTR that worked really well

    Break for It - Doesn't have to be this but any open feeling jam would be good
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    I would definitely want a new studio album in 2020. This year has been a total crap shoot and a new DMB full band album would be fantastic for the soul.

    It just seems to me that there has been no rumors at all about it so Iím not getting my hopes up. Even though they are tight lipped about working in the studio, thereís usually some strong rumors when they are recording.

    A new album would definitely need Bismarck on it for me. After that, Iíd prefer everything be new. I am good just jamming sugar will on the live Trax version and the Batson sessions break for it and break free is fine with me tbh. Do I think they could do more with those songs? Yes, but I also Think they wouldnít want to or it would have made CT.

    Buddy is fantastic and Iíd like them to get a few albums out while heís a part of what they have going on.
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    Re: The Next Studio album.

    I think from the tidbits we were getting earlier and Dave’s comments recently about getting into the studio, I would be surprised to see anything other than a whole new batch of tracks all done with Batson. We MAY see some a couple of the Batson Sessions tracks re-worked, but I don’t think we see the same producer mashup CT was.
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