*Prompter Thread* (NO personal attacks, NO trolling)

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by scrock25

Fuck, man.

26D chess 'n shit.

:mindblown

They're basically rubbing it in our faces at this point.

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1009871069694627842

FLOTUS spox confirms Mrs. Trump wore a jacket to visit border kids that reads: "I really don't care. Do you?" Spox says: "It's a jacket. There was no hidden message. After today's important visit to Texas, I hope the media isn't going to choose to focus on her wardrobe."

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Brown families

It would be adorable that you don't think that's what this is about if it weren't so infuriating.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

They're basically rubbing it in our faces at this point.

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1009871069694627842

FLOTUS spox confirms Mrs. Trump wore a jacket to visit border kids that reads: "I really don't care. Do you?" Spox says: "It's a jacket. There was no hidden message. After today's important visit to Texas, I hope the media isn't going to choose to focus on her wardrobe."

I saw speculation that message being on her jacket was fake

Are we now saying her jacket actually said that?

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

It would be adorable that you don't think that's what this is about if it weren't so infuriating.

There's no racism in America according to every right-leaning person in here and elsewhere.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Brown families

I don’t like this term to represent the treatment of Hispanics personally. The racism directed towards them has much more to do with other things than the color of their skin.

[ShotgunDMB]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

It would be adorable that you don't think that's what this is about if it weren't so infuriating.

I mean, I assume that’s usually who attempts to come across the border, illegally. Not sure why thats relevant

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

I don’t like this term to represent the treatment of Hispanics personally. The racism directed towards them has much more to do with other things than the color of their skin.

Solid point I hadn't considered. I'll work to pick different language in the future.

[Route_2]

Another double standard day for the Trumps. Imagine (because you know she never would) that Michelle had done something like this. The collective right would implode. #bothsides

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

I don’t like this term to represent the treatment of Hispanics personally. The racism directed towards them has much more to do with other things than the color of their skin.

My fiancee calls herself and other hispanic people brown all the time . As do my Indian friends.

But to the point of your post, I agree but think you're still underestimating skin color as a factor. It's an immediate identifier of "this person is different than I am." If skin color, or any physical feature for that matter, wasn't an issue innate racism wouldn't exist. People give people (of the same race) the benefit of the doubt ALLLLL the time, with some obvious exceptions. Very often not the case with different races.

It's infinitely easier for your average white American to not even register empathy for people like poor Mexicans because there's very little noticeable common ground. It's very easy to not think people have hopes and dreams and emotions; much simpler to think of them as machines or animals essentially. And me, you, we're all absolutely guilty of doing this with people all the time, so imagine how bad racist fucks can do it?

[cazzie34]

Something interesting I didn't know about Marco Rubio:

Rubio's maternal grandfather, Pedro Victor Garcia, initially immigrated legally to the U.S. in 1956, but returned to Cuba to find work in 1959. When he returned to the U.S. in 1962 without a visa, he was detained as an undocumented immigrant, and an immigration judge ordered him to be deported. The immigration officials had a "change of heart" later the same day, the deportation order was not enforced, and Garcia was given a legal status ("parolee") that allowed him to stay in the U.S. Rubio's grandfather remained in the U.S. and re-applied for permanent resident status in 1966, following passage of the Cuban Adjustment Act, at which point his residency was approved. In March 2016, the New York Times reported that Garcia was put in a "gray area" of the law that meant he could remain in the U.S. from 1962 to 1966.

Curious.

[mandy18]

Originally Posted by Route_2

Another double standard day for the Trumps. Imagine (because you know she never would) that Michelle had done something like this. The collective right would implode. #bothsides

How is this a double standard?

If Michelle had done this, the right would have reported it and imploded.
Instead, Melania did this, and the left is reporting it and imploding.

That's, sorry to say it, Professor BS here and not a double standard.

All it takes is a "melania jacket" in google search and you'll see the bitch fest.


People in here may not be bitching, but everybody else is.

[jmc419]

That jacket is gonna sell like hot cakes.

[DMBstandUP1984]

it is a PR error for sure....but it is a calculated PR error she even changed out of it when she got there...its obvious what they were doing and she probably doesn't even "get it"

[jcc522]

To answer the question from the jacket: I really don’t care.

[ThatLetter]

People need to calm down about the jacket. It’s not like she wore a tan suit.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

It's real but says she took it off before she got there. But still bad optics for any leg of the trip

Yeah. And any First Lady is being asked why she wore that...not sure why her PR person got all up in arms over the question.

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by mandy18

How is this a double standard?

If Michelle had done this, the right would have reported it and imploded.
Instead, Melania did this, and the left is reporting it and imploding.

That's, sorry to say it, Professor BS here and not a double standard.

All it takes is a "melania jacket" in google search and you'll see the bitch fest.


People in here may not be bitching, but everybody else is.

Right, I'm sure this will be a multi day/week/year story. Or, more likely, something more horrible and deplorable will happen in a few hours and everyone will move on to that. It's the Trumps.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Originally Posted by Route_2

Right, I'm sure this will be a multi day/week/year story. Or, more likely, something more horrible and deplorable will happen in a few hours and everyone will move on to that. It's the Trumps.

someone has to be getting fired soon..feels like its been a few Fridays

[zajDmB1]

Definitely an instance of the left being their own worst enemy.

I understand one could argue it's related enough to what's going on but at the end of the day it's a fucking jacket. Shit on her for a minute then move on to why Trump sucks so much at everything he does.

[jcc522]

Weren’t people critiquing her last week because she wasn’t visible enough after her surgery or something?

[Climb2safety]

As long as we all agree the jacket is blue and gold I don’t see what there is to debate.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by jcc522

Weren’t people critiquing her last week because she wasn’t visible enough after her surgery or something?

Now she is out here wearing jackets at the Mexican border. It’s hot as shit down there. I don’t get it.

[mandy18]

An update on the Pgh police shooting.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/cri...s/201806210148

They identified the cop, who was apparently sworn in just hours before the shooting. According to various articles I've read, his previous employment was with Oakmont and U of Pitt - both extremely different than East Pittsburgh.
My guess is he was not even remotely trained to handle working in East Pittsburgh given his 'soft' background.

[jmc419]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

As long as we all agree the jacket is blue and gold I don’t see what there is to debate.

I don't know man. It looks green and white to me.

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by mandy18

How is this a double standard?

If Michelle had done this, the right would have reported it and imploded.
Instead, Melania did this, and the left is reporting it and imploding.

That's, sorry to say it, Professor BS here and not a double standard.

All it takes is a "melania jacket" in google search and you'll see the bitch fest.


People in here may not be bitching, but everybody else is.

Michelle didn't do this though. Do you have an example of something she did that is in the same ballpark as what Melania did?

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Now she is out here wearing jackets at the Mexican border. It’s hot as shit down there. I don’t get it.

To be fair, the only pictures I see of her in that jacket are bording a plane in DC.

Does anyone have a pic of her with it on Texas?

If she wants to wear that jacket around DC, who cares. Sounds like she doesn’t care what people think about it either.

[mandy18]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

Michelle didn't do this though. Do you have an example of something she did that is in the same ballpark as what Melania did?

:

I was responding hypothetically to a different poster who said this is a double standard because the right would have imploded if Michelle did this.

Pretty certain I never said she did, but instead said if Michelle had, sure - the right would have imploded. But, so is the left right now.

Not sure why I would try to find something in the same ballpark because I'm not trying to argue the right wouldn't have a field day with this. They absolutely would have. Hence, both sides, and not a double standard.


Your question would be relevant if I was defending the jacket or saying the right wouldn't go overboard with Michelle had she done that. But, that's not even remotely close to what I was saying.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

To be fair, the only pictures I see of her in that jacket are bording a plane in DC.

Does anyone have a pic of her with it on Texas?

You f she wants to wear that jacket around DC, who cares. Sounds like she doesn’t care what people think about it either.

It said in the original link she changed on the plane.

Still a weird choice of clothes to wear. But whatever.

Trump is the worst president ever.

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by mandy18

:

I was responding hypothetically to a different poster who said this is a double standard because the right would have imploded if Michelle did this.

Pretty certain I never said she did, but instead said if Michelle had, sure - the right would have imploded. But, so is the left right now.

Not sure why I would try to find something in the same ballpark because I'm not trying to argue the right wouldn't have a field day with this. They absolutely would have. Hence, both sides, and not a double standard.

It's not both sides when one side wouldn't engage in that behavior.

That's the whole point of Rogers "both sides". He says that both sides do all the things.

Michelle wouldn't do this.

[cazzie34]

I think we might be arguing two different things. Route used both sides wrong.