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Old 03-24-2004, 06:19 PM   #61
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    Re: Guitar Theory

    pipsqueak, this is some great stuff. thanks for taking the time to post all this stuff. i've only been playin for about a year now and all this stuff is helping me out so much. just thanks again, appreciate it. this thread should be stickyed, just awesome stuff.
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    Old 03-28-2004, 12:50 PM   #63
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    i was wondering if anyone has all the lessons in like organized in like a word file. cause if anyone does can they get it to me somehow, it'd be so much easier to view and use.
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    Old 03-29-2004, 10:40 AM   #64
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    i was wondering if anyone has all the lessons in like organized in like a word file. cause if anyone does can they get it to me somehow, it'd be so much easier to view and use.

    unfortunately I don't have ALL the info in word files.....I only have some of it.

    much of the information comes from all different places, including my noggin'

    the easiest thing might just be to copy and paste from the forum into word files (somebody here was starting to do that)


    Oh, and I swear I'll post the CAGED system one of these days.....just been busy. (sorry)
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    Old 03-29-2004, 04:53 PM   #65
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    don't worry about it. i was just being lazy and see if someone else did it already haha. i'll just do it myself, and again thanks for all the stuff u posted.
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    Get back up to the top
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    Old 04-28-2004, 04:11 AM   #67
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    up^^
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    Old 06-28-2004, 07:50 PM   #68
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    good stuff, shall get a sticky
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    Old 06-28-2004, 09:48 PM   #69
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    Wicked, Thanks Marcelo!
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    Old 06-29-2004, 10:58 AM   #70
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    awesome!...
    thanks
    now it will remind me to put some more information in here!
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    Old 07-22-2004, 05:11 PM   #71
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    thought i'd add an awesome site...

    http://www.looknohands.com
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    Old 07-30-2004, 11:35 AM   #72
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    THANK YOU!!!! I've been searching for a site like this for a year!
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    Old 08-09-2004, 12:12 PM   #73
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    Re: Guitar Theory

    Why the hell is this stuff so confusing for me? I got completely lost at the first post regarding keys and the major scales and what not (I still can't figure out why you use flats sometimes and sharps other times : ). And everything beyond that post just gets even more confusing. AAh this is so f-ing frustrating.

    EDIT: With that said, I do really appreciate the time you've been putting in to give us these lessons. After all, I do know more now than I did before I opened this thread. So, thank you.

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    Old 08-09-2004, 01:59 PM   #74
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    Why the hell is this stuff so confusing for me? I got completely lost at the first post regarding keys and the major scales and what not (I still can't figure out why you use flats sometimes and sharps other times : ). And everything beyond that post just gets even more confusing. AAh this is so f-ing frustrating.

    EDIT: With that said, I do really appreciate the time you've been putting in to give us these lessons. After all, I do know more now than I did before I opened this thread. So, thank you.
    Just take what you do know and go over that, and go a lil further and then backtrack everything you learned and go a lil further - you have to keep reinforcing everything. Theory is complicated, no doubt. I've been blessed as one of the few who learn something and it'll click a few hours/day or two later.

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    Old 08-31-2004, 08:23 PM   #75
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    Re: Guitar Theory

    good news all, i compiled everything pip said (minus the quizzes) into a word file, it's in excess of 35 pages at verdana size 10 font. i'll post it for download either tonight or tomarrow
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    Old 08-31-2004, 08:34 PM   #76
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    Re: Guitar Theory

    final page count: 37
    - each topic has it's own page start

    words: 12,868

    you guys can edit it if you want, i've at least got the ball moving

    download: http://www.itypical.com/john/guitartheory.doc

    *right click, save target as. you need microsoft word 97 or higher
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    Old 09-29-2004, 08:02 PM   #77
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    Re: Guitar Theory

    Can you please talk more about the CAGED system a little more. My friend ahd a book and was telling me about this and how it was totally the best thing in the entire world.

    PLEASE divulge your secert.

    Oh, and when are we gettng to tritone subsitution?
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    Old 09-29-2004, 08:08 PM   #78
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    there hasn't been much activity here in 7 months...hopefully more will come

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    Old 10-01-2004, 10:12 AM   #79
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    there hasn't been much activity here in 7 months...hopefully more will come

    I'm still around.....unfortunately, very busy.

    my sob story:

    I've been studying for my professional license exam (ARE - Architect Registration Exam) since March of this year. There are 9 parts, and I have taken 5......so 4 more to go!

    If you can't tell, the exam has taken up a LOT of my spare time, to the point to where I had to quit taking guitar lessons for a while. (the license exam is also very expensive)

    So anyway......I'll be done by January of '05, and then I'm hitting the guitar again.
    It's really kind of sad, because I haven't picked up my guitar in about 3 weeks.

    Well, that on top of a full-time job, a wife, and trying to have a summer (what's left of it).....just takes all my time.

    but I promise, I will add some more stuff.....including my information on the CAGED system. That's where I left off in this thread, and also in my own practice routines.
    It is an AWESOME system.....and I will divulge some information before too long.

    I do want to keep this thread going....it's a good refresher and resource for everyone, including myself!
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    Old 10-01-2004, 05:30 PM   #80
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    ^ no problemo, i dont know if you noticed or not but i compiled all you tootaledge (funny spelling there) into a word document. i hope that helps some people out. take all the time you need, there are 35 pages worth of material to get down until you return

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    Old 01-21-2005, 10:15 AM   #81
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    The C-A-G-E-D system is pretty simple if you think of it correctly

    ok well there are five major chord shapes and they spell the word caged. if you play an E chord and wanna play an F chord your first finger acts as a capo... as you probably know they are bar chords.. well you do the same thing with all the other shapes they are just using those different shapes.. and if you wanna play an E chord the next step higher the next letter is.... D so the shape will go from

    E---0--
    B---0-
    G---1--
    D---2--
    A---2--
    E---0--

    to...

    E----4------
    B----5------
    G----4------
    D----2------- <-- the D Shape
    A-----------
    E---(0)------

    and if you wanted it higher it starts over from the last letter to the first... making the d shape where you played the octave i think i'm not sure if thats exactly true.. Then replace it with the C shape (the first letter)

    E-----4--
    B-----5--
    G-----4--
    D-----6--
    A-----7--
    E-----0--
    then if you wanted it higher C-A-G-E-D

    E---7--
    B---9--
    G---9--
    D---9---
    A---7---
    E---0---

    Hope that helps you a little
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    Old 03-24-2005, 11:27 AM   #82
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    how do you play an - F#?
    playing hotel california and I went to guitar chord site and couldnt find this, thanks!
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    Move up one fret from a regular F.

    e-2
    B-2
    G-3
    D-4
    A-4
    E-2
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    Move up one fret from a regular F.

    e-2
    B-2
    G-3
    D-4
    A-4
    E-2
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    Old 03-25-2005, 11:03 AM   #85
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    Can anybody break this down for me? I don't understand the whole order of flats/order of sharps thing. Also, what is an octave?

    Quote:
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    Continuing.....

    If you haven't done so, it's a good idea to write out all the notes for all the keys. REMEMBER....THESE ARE NOTES....NOT CHORDS! (can't stress that enough)

    Also, if you didn't figure it out by now....there are 7 notes in each key, the 8th note brings us back to the octave.

    Let's talk about Sharps and Flats for a minute...
    Did anybody figure out the pattern?

    Well, it turns out that they always fall in the SAME ORDER.

    The ORDER OF SHARPS can be remembered by the following:
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    The ORDER OF FLATS can be remembered by the following:
    BEAD G

    So, for example:
    the key of C has no sharps or flats.
    the key of G has one sharp------------>F#
    the key of D has two sharps----------->F# and C#
    the key of A has three sharps---------->F#, C#, and G#
    the key of E has four sharps----------->F#, C#, and G#, D#
    and so on...(similar for flats)

    So....some more info.
    The following keys: C G D A and E are the 5 major guitar keys in music. This is easy to remember because they make the word - CAGED. Some of you may have heard about the CAGED system. (I've even posted it before on this forum.) We will go over that later.
    So....
    Does anyone see anything in common with the CAGED keys?

    They all have sharps and no flats.

    Quick quiz:
    What key is missing from the CAGED system that also has sharps and no flats?
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    Old 03-25-2005, 11:56 AM   #86
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    Nevermind guys. What confused me was how he took them out of order for the memory hints.
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    Old 03-25-2005, 12:21 PM   #87
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    So now here is something else that doesn't make sense to me:


    "The following keys: C G D A and E are the 5 major guitar keys in music. This is easy to remember because they make the word - CAGED. Some of you may have heard about the CAGED system. (I've even posted it before on this forum.) We will go over that later.
    So....
    Does anyone see anything in common with the CAGED keys?

    They all have sharps and no flats."



    I don't find any sharps or flats in C major, and then in others I find flats.. even though this says CAGED all have sharps and no flats! What am I doing wrong?
    If you start on a C, to make the major scale you move up 2 whole, one half, 3 whole and 1 half, right? So in the C major scale, you get CDEFGABC, right? Next if I take an A major scale I get ABC#DEF#G#A. Right? So it has sharps. Fine. A major using flats is then ABDflatDEGflatAflatA. Why are there flats if CAGED have sharps and no flats?
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    Old 03-26-2005, 06:44 PM   #88
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    C major and A minor are the only keys with no sharps/flats. your doing it right. The above post must mean something else - maybe that none of the major guitar chords are a sharp/flat scale - like a# or g#. Those keys are more difficult to play in standard tuning because you can't use open chords.
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    Old 04-12-2005, 10:45 AM   #89
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    I don't find any sharps or flats in C major, and then in others I find flats.. even though this says CAGED all have sharps and no flats! What am I doing wrong?
    If you start on a C, to make the major scale you move up 2 whole, one half, 3 whole and 1 half, right? So in the C major scale, you get CDEFGABC, right? Next if I take an A major scale I get ABC#DEF#G#A. Right? So it has sharps. Fine. A major using flats is then ABDflatDEGflatAflatA. Why are there flats if CAGED have sharps and no flats?
    you know that d flat is also c sharp, if not, now you do. All flats and sharps can be written two ways, Ab=G# Bb=A# etc, but remember there are no flats or sharps between B and C, and E and F.

    The A major scale should be written like ABC#DEF#G#A The reason we don't use flats on this scale is because there should be no repeat letters except the root (in this case, A) The way you worte it made sense musically, but it works better with no repeat letters.
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    Old 04-12-2005, 10:56 AM   #90
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    Cass -

    I'm sorry I missed your question......man, that was a few weeks ago.

    Well, at any rate, jprzybys hopefully cleared it up for you.
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