Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread

[3beamsoflight6]

Dave’s guitar absolutely now ruins any solo/D&t shows and has really hurt the live band shows. When will someone tell him the sound is beyond garbage?

[kmbean]

Rashawn is wandering around south Florida trying to avoid gators.

[crounsa810]

Originally Posted by kmbean

Rashawn is wandering around south Florida trying to avoid gators.

And taking video of his radio while driving around

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by 3beamsoflight6

Dave’s guitar absolutely now ruins any solo/D&t shows and has really hurt the live band shows. When will someone tell him the sound is beyond garbage?

What exactly don’t you like about it?

[OneSweetMonkey]

How does the DMB store run out of Firedancer stickers? Furthermore, how does it take them so long to restock them? You would think they would have more of a surplus of those than anything else.

[hurley711]

Originally Posted by jmkratt

What exactly don’t you like about it?

Curious to know as well because I am in the same camp. Rockbridge obviously makes great guitars but I feel like Dave's SJ is too jangly and gets lost in the mix. The Martin is perfect for D+T shows but I preferred his Taylor 914ce with the full band. Never truly embraced the sound post 2012ish with the Rockbridge. Again I have read a ton on their little shop and the relationship Dave has with Brian Calhoun and there are many outstanding artists that use Rockbridge on stage but for Dave's songs and signature sound I miss the Taylor. Curious to hear from the OP!

[jmkratt]

Yeah, I’m not a Rockbridge fan so was wondering if that’s what he was alluding to or if it was something else.

[Gunz]

Thought his guitar sounded great the last couple years. He’s finally back in the mix.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by kmbean

What prompted Dave to learn Busted Stuff for Mexico? Still seems bizarre he played it considering his prior comments he doesn’t like the song.

Originally Posted by kmbean

It was Dave on the IEM saying F that song.

I heard an interview where Dave talked about Busted Stuff. It's not that he doesn't like the song, he just thinks there is something "off" about it now. He talked about how they couldn't recapture the way the song sounded in 2000, 2002; and he can't figure out what it is. So he gave up. That was in a full band setting. Everything is different when it's just Dave and Tim.

[jmkratt]

That’s interesting, thanks for sharing

[Bearclaw_]

Originally Posted by hopewelljones

If you’re one of the people who, during a show…

- Screams “Yeah Daaave! Thanks Dave!!” as if he can hear you
- Talks during songs
- Just has to sing along even when your singing voice is nowhere near on key

…fuck you. You are an absolute asshole.

You ok, bud?



I could be wrong but haven't you stated multiple times you haven't been to a show since 2015? If so, kind of a moot point, no?

[PantalaNagaMan]

I wish I knew the names of some of the people I met at random tailgates back in 2003-2007 in the Tinley Park, Alpine, Noblesville areas.

Yea, you helped get an under 21-year-old incredibly drunk - but damn those were some good times (I think).

[alec]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

I heard an interview where Dave talked about Busted Stuff. It's not that he doesn't like the song, he just thinks there is something "off" about it now. He talked about how they couldn't recapture the way the song sounded in 2000, 2002; and he can't figure out what it is. So he gave up. That was in a full band setting. Everything is different when it's just Dave and Tim.

Has anyone listened to 2000/2002 versions to try to figure out what the difference is? I think he mentions (IEM) that the difference is more in the end than the rest of the song?

[ISawTheBridge10]

Originally Posted by hopewelljones

If you’re one of the people who, during a show…

- Screams “Yeah Daaave! Thanks Dave!!” as if he can hear you
- Talks during songs
- Just has to sing along even when your singing voice is nowhere near on key

…fuck you. You are an absolute asshole.

Relax...

[bigeyedpigs]

Originally Posted by alec

Has anyone listened to 2000/2002 versions to try to figure out what the difference is? I think he mentions (IEM) that the difference is more in the end than the rest of the song?

I'd have to say it might have something to do with whatever Roi or butch did. There were some great versions in 2000, maybe the first time sexy mf was used as an outro not sure, but they were jazzy and good. When it came back in 2010 it didn't sound right.

[kmbean]

Originally Posted by bigeyedpigs

I'd have to say it might have something to do with whatever Roi or butch did. There were some great versions in 2000, maybe the first time sexy mf was used as an outro not sure, but they were jazzy and good. When it came back in 2010 it didn't sound right.

The real question is why couldn’t the musical director figure it out?

[bigeyedpigs]

Originally Posted by kmbean

The real question is why couldn’t the musical director figure it out?

If I had to guess , because he's part of the problem. It's similar to sugar will from 04, roi, butch and carter really carry it and keep that old school jazzy jam going. Busted stuff won't work if a trumpet is blaring and Tim is shredding. If it were muted and Tim was playing fills, it could work.

[RSSR]

Originally Posted by kmbean

The real question is why couldn’t the musical director figure it out?

Lots of people were once just as vitriol about Butch, so….

[Dannyyankou]

Originally Posted by alec

Has anyone listened to 2000/2002 versions to try to figure out what the difference is? I think he mentions (IEM) that the difference is more in the end than the rest of the song?

I think it was played slower in 2000, so it gave it more space to breathe if that makes sense.

[alec]

I think what Dave was saying was that something was lost from it even in 2002. The difference in 2010 is extremely obvious with the main riff being played only on electric guitar and not suiting the song at all.

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by RSSR

Lots of people were once just as vitriol about Butch, so….

Damn right.

[RSSR]

Release more ‘00 LTs. If it never regains its magic in ‘00, so be it. At least we’ll have the ‘00 recordings.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by alec

Has anyone listened to 2000/2002 versions to try to figure out what the difference is? I think he mentions (IEM) that the difference is more in the end than the rest of the song?

Tim and Rashawn and no Butch are the biggest differences to my ears.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by alec

Has anyone listened to 2000/2002 versions to try to figure out what the difference is? I think he mentions (IEM) that the difference is more in the end than the rest of the song?

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

I think it was played slower in 2000, so it gave it more space to breathe if that makes sense.

It makes perfect sense.

[btpeters]

Despite Busted Stuff not sounding right in 2010, Jeff was beautiful on the back end of them

[3beamsoflight6]

Originally Posted by jmkratt

What exactly don’t you like about it?

Originally Posted by hurley711

Curious to know as well because I am in the same camp. Rockbridge obviously makes great guitars but I feel like Dave's SJ is too jangly and gets lost in the mix. The Martin is perfect for D+T shows but I preferred his Taylor 914ce with the full band. Never truly embraced the sound post 2012ish with the Rockbridge. Again I have read a ton on their little shop and the relationship Dave has with Brian Calhoun and there are many outstanding artists that use Rockbridge on stage but for Dave's songs and signature sound I miss the Taylor. Curious to hear from the OP!

His sound now is so muddy and dull it’s almost unlistenable. Granted I don’t download shows anymore and my experiences are limited what I hear on Sirius but I just heard GGT from MX the other day and it was truly awful. The lack of projection and overall dead sound coming from his guitar is pathetic for a professional. He/Tim/the rest of the band must know this.

[dreamingtree_34]

Originally Posted by 3beamsoflight6

His sound now is so muddy and dull it’s almost unlistenable. Granted I don’t download shows anymore and my experiences are limited what I hear on Sirius but I just heard GGT from MX the other day and it was truly awful. The lack of projection and overall dead sound coming from his guitar is pathetic for a professional. He/Tim/the rest of the band must know this.

That may be over the top but I for sure agree that it's been a downgrade going to Rockbridge. Small maker / bespoke guitars does not necessarily equal better sound. Always seemed like more of a fashionable "shop local" choice than anything, and they sound good enough. Maintaining the current unburied volume in the mix, and bringing back the scratched up Taylor would be best.

[JboDaveGuyYNK]

LLD has cracked my top 5

[jwrice5]

Originally Posted by dreamingtree_34

That may be over the top but I for sure agree that it's been a downgrade going to Rockbridge. Small maker / bespoke guitars does not necessarily equal better sound. Always seemed like more of a fashionable "shop local" choice than anything, and they sound good enough. Maintaining the current unburied volume in the mix, and bringing back the scratched up Taylor would be best.

Agreed… this topic has been discussed a ton, and I feel like a majority agree that the Rockbridge is the worst sounding of all his guitars. The Martin is perfect for D&T and the 914 is perfect for full band. I even prefer the Martin full band from LS, but I think as the band continued to grow and incorporate more layers of sound, the Taylor’s high end cuts through the wall of sound very nicely.


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[Alexis17]

Busted Stuff was also only played 19 of 47 times Summer 2000, and wasn't played in Fall or 2001 like Grey St. Bartender, Grace, JTR. It's not like there's a ton of evidence that they loved it and they thought it was a great concert song then all of a sudden it was worse in 2002 even before he said Fuck Busted Stuff at Shoreline. I haven't heard that IEM in a while, but doesn't he say "fuck that song it goes nowhere?"