*Prompter Thread* (NO personal attacks, NO trolling)

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by gonz085

I did, and it really didn’t inform me much because it was already material I knew.

Also, even outside of religion, is the notion that a woman who defers to a man is bad? In all of my dating, and with my girlfriend now who is far more liberal than myself, they preferred that I led, took initiative, and deferred to me for most decisions. Not sure why that’s a negative if it’s the preference of the woman.

Because you could have a woman making that decision based on her own beliefs for other women that don’t have the same preference...

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

No.

I honestly have read up on her enough to know what her views are, but people are going to tear her and anyone down because of the current climate.

Just curious if there is a unicorn judge out there that people would accept before November.

Garland?

[gonz085]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

Because you could have a woman making that decision based on her own beliefs for other women that don’t have the same preference...

You could apply this logic to nearly all political decisions. I know abortion is the big concern here. It’s never going anywhere, in my opinion, nor should it because it benefits both parties if you understand what it really signals other than cases of rape/health. But they’ll harp on that existential fear of women and it will likely work.

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by gonz085

You could apply this logic to nearly all political decisions. I know abortion is the big concern here. It’s never going anywhere, in my opinion, nor should it because it benefits both parties if you understand what it really signals other than cases of rape/health. But they’ll harp on that existential fear of women and it will likely work.

.........

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

The Hill: GOP Texas lawmaker introduces bill that would allow death penalty for women who have abortions

Me: https://twitter.com/alicerhamilton/s...551005696?s=21

At least let them get ACB on the court before the forced-birth movement starts with this bullshit, please

[gonz085]

Texas also proposed a bill that would fine people $100 every time they masturbated just because goofy politicians propose dumb legislation doesn’t mean that it will automatically pass.

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by gonz085

Texas also proposed a bill that would fine people $100 every time they masturbated just because goofy politicians propose dumb legislation doesn’t mean that it will automatically pass.

So your view is nothing will ever change and no laws will ever pass so nothing matters?

Newsflash - states continue to pass laws criminalizing and restricting abortion. If you don’t think the right is hell bent on ending abortion, then we can be done with this exchange.

[dmbmuskie]

Originally Posted by gonz085

Texas also proposed a bill that would fine people $100 every time they masturbated just because goofy politicians propose dumb legislation doesn’t mean that it will automatically pass.

Can Bloomberg pay my fines for that?

[gonz085]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

So your view is nothing will ever change and no laws will ever pass so nothing matters?

Newsflash - states continue to pass laws criminalizing and restricting abortion. If you don’t think the right is hell bent on ending abortion, then we can be done with this exchange.

I certainly believe those people exist, but what I’ve seen is many who were anti-abortion about 10 years ago now coming over to the “safe, legal, and rare” side of the coin.

[Antiramie]

TS#s going to a concert of one of the most politically open bands/front men out there and getting annoyed that he talks politics in between songs

[gonz085]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

TS#s going to a concert of one of the most politically open bands/front men out there and getting annoyed that he talks politics in between songs

He would hate a Brian Jonestown Massacre show then. Would love to see their antics during these times.

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by gonz085

I certainly believe those people exist, but what I’ve seen is many who were anti-abortion about 10 years ago now coming over to the “safe, legal, and rare” side of the coin.

You either have your head in the sand or are cool with severely restricting abortion. Which is fine if it’s the latter...but then you’re just being disingenuous with the whole “don’t worry guys, nothing is going to change with abortion” schtick.

Didn’t one senator say ACB was the only person he’d vote to confirm bc of her strong anti abortion stance?

[daveshookme]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

No.

I honestly have read up on her enough to know what her views are, but people are going to tear her and anyone down because of the current climate.

Just curious if there is a unicorn judge out there that people would accept before November.

Barry and Michelle

[daveshookme]

Originally Posted by gonz085

Texas also proposed a bill that would fine people $100 every time they masturbated just because goofy politicians propose dumb legislation doesn’t mean that it will automatically pass.

How will I ever get out from this student debt now?

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by gonz085

I did, and it really didn’t inform me much because it was already material I knew.

Also, even outside of religion, is the notion that a woman who defers to a man is bad? In all of my dating, and with my girlfriend now who is far more liberal than myself, they preferred that I led, took initiative, and deferred to me for most decisions. Not sure why that’s a negative if it’s the preference of the woman.

I for one am shocked to learn this is what your relationships are like. Nothing in your posting history made it painfully obvious.

[Tiduwho]

A distinction needs to be made between your on-sleeve political "values" and your in-practice relationship values.

If people dont treat you the way you want to be treated, the relationship tends not to last very long.

When they do, a relationship can blossom. Regardless if they are vocally on a different side of political issue X than you.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

Enlighten us

I don’t want to put words in your mouth, you haven’t exactly stated what your issue is with her in this regard.

[Climb2safety]

In the latest installment of how stupid do you think your supporters are, I give you Trump and his executive order protecting pre existing conditions.

And as always, his followers are stupider than you could ever imagine.

[daveshookme]

Can't wait to see conservatives rejoice that Obamacare is repealed while simultaneously whining their healthcare premiums are increasing because the ACA was repealed.

[Climb2safety]

“The historic action I’m taking today includes the first-ever executive order to affirm it is the official policy of the United States government to protect patients with preexisting conditions,” Trump said, despite the fact such protections are already enshrined in law. “We’re making that official. We’re putting it down in a stamp, because our opponents, the Democrats, like to constantly talk about it.”

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

I don’t want to put words in your mouth, you haven’t exactly stated what your issue is with her in this regard.

If it indeed is her belief, I’m concerned those religious beliefs will cloud her legal judgement....giving us the following:

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

Because you could have a woman making that decision based on her own beliefs for other women that don’t have the same preference...

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

“The historic action I’m taking today includes the first-ever executive order to affirm it is the official policy of the United States government to protect patients with preexisting conditions,” Trump said, despite the fact such protections are already enshrined in law. “We’re making that official. We’re putting it down in a stamp, because our opponents, the Democrats, like to constantly talk about it.”

they're really foreshadowing the removal of those protections huh

[Tiduwho]

People of Praise, or Handmaid's Tale?

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

If it indeed is her belief, I’m concerned those religious beliefs will cloud her legal judgement....giving us the following:

I’m not sure what cloud really means. That she’s stupid? Or brainwashed? Or is she’s inferior to men? Or is a blind follower?

There are 5 conservatives on the bench. I’m not saying they will all vote to overturn Roe but some will. I assume you share the same concerns with them.

And, she can’t just use her faith for a basis to vote a certain way. There are non faith based legal arguments against the federal governments ability to mandate the available abortion through law.

[MDPrompter]

Supporting an organization that believes only men should be at the highest levels of leadership indicates a certain level of fanaticism IMO (akin to women not being able to drive or vote) that while is 100% ok as a personal choice for ones own life, should never be forced on others. I’m concerned that a person with that level of fanaticism will be unable to separate personal beliefs when making critical legal interpretations.

[MDPrompter]

And I’m not just talking about abortion...I’m talking about the last 50 years’ progress on equal rights for women.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

Supporting an organization that believes only men should be at the highest levels of leadership indicates a certain level of fanaticism IMO (akin to women not being able to drive or vote) that while is 100% ok as a personal choice for ones own life, should never be forced on others. I’m concerned that a person with that level of fanaticism will be unable to separate personal beliefs when making critical legal interpretations.

This is some of what I mentioned as a misconception

From your article

We have chosen to rely on male leadership at the highest level of our community based on our desire to be a family of families," Connolly said. "We follow the New Testament teaching that the husband is the head of the family, and we have patterned our community on this New Testament approach to family life."

Connolly added that women "take on a variety of leadership roles within People of Praise, including serving as heads of several of our schools and directing ministries within our community."

1. It’s a choice she thinks is is best for her and her family
2. Women play a huge part including leadership positions
3. I can almost assure you the male leadership isn’t a dictatorship nor are the women devalued. It’s simply part of their Christian identity and how they choose to publicly organize their families.
4. Can you point to any reason it’s dangerous or is a harmful? 50% of families blow up and have nothing to do with this
5. A women deferring to her husband in this way doesn’t necessarily diminish her power or make he any less of a person. This Amy Barrett is extremely accomplished as exhibit A.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

And I’m not just talking about abortion...I’m talking about the last 50 years’ progress on equal rights for women.

This incredibly successful and accomplished women rising to the highest court in the land is going to take away from women’s progress??

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

I'm not knocking it, I think it's the right move, but joe biden is personally running like a 19th century presidential candidate.

Pandemic has been a big blessing for him to be able to sit at home and just not mess up as much.

Honestly it's what America needs though. Someone who isn't in the news every 2 seconds and being so fucking exhausting.

Day after debate in Cleveland, Joe Biden will travel across eastern Ohio and western Pennsylvania during a train tour Wednesday. He "will highlight how he will build our economy back better for working families, not the super wealthy and corporations."

https://twitter.com/darreldrowland/s...687223297?s=19

Ol' Joe is gonna be talkin' from the ol' caboose.

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

This is some of what I mentioned as a misconception

From your article

We have chosen to rely on male leadership at the highest level of our community based on our desire to be a family of families," Connolly said. "We follow the New Testament teaching that the husband is the head of the family, and we have patterned our community on this New Testament approach to family life."

Connolly added that women "take on a variety of leadership roles within People of Praise, including serving as heads of several of our schools and directing ministries within our community."

1. It’s a choice she thinks is is best for her and her family
2. Women play a huge part including leadership positions
3. I can almost assure you the male leadership isn’t a dictatorship nor are the women devalued. It’s simply part of their Christian identity and how they choose to publicly organize their families.
4. Can you point to any reason it’s dangerous or is a harmful? 50% of families blow up and have nothing to do with this
5. A women deferring to her husband in this way doesn’t necessarily diminish her power or make he any less of a person. This Amy Barrett is extremely accomplished as exhibit A.

Why would it be dangerous or harmful to have someone on the SC that believes only males should be at the highest levels of leadership? Is that your question?

[MDPrompter]

The very fact that you keep mixing up a women deferring to her husband and only allowing males to lead an organization is a problem, climb.