Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread

[crounsa810]

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

There's a new Apple Music karaoke feature called Sing, where you can adjust the volume of the vocals and sing along with the lyrics. All of DMB's albums are supported, so this is the closest to instrumentals we have.

How do I make this work? I don’t see anything for it

[Dannyyankou]

Originally Posted by crounsa810

How do I make this work? I don’t see anything for it

The update isn't out yet, it's in beta

[bmt322]

https://www.ispot.tv/ad/brZB/dell-technologies-cursor

This Dell commercial makes me want to listen to Snow Outside. 13 seconds onward sounds like the outro.

[seanbrutus]

Listening to LT 36 this morning. Does anyone have a guess as to how much those acoustic sets had a correlation with Boyd's hearing issues and doing a lot of his Boyd heavy songs in the acoustic part of the show? Just something I've been thinking about.

[ToySoldier#34]

Dave solo 4/5/93 posted on YouTube yesterday

http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.as...=53&where=1993

https://youtu.be/xQW-jfZmgVc

[Dannyyankou]

I finally got around to listening to the Dead Wax conversation with John Alagia. I couldn't help but notice that John said he multitrack recorded the band's early shows. I was under the impression they didn't start regularly doing that until the 1996 tour. But if it's true, there is a treasure trove of multitrack recordings that could be released, like the Big League Chew show.

[Dannyyankou]

Eh Hee had positive showflow ratings this year. Interesting how times change. I was one of it's biggest defenders in 2013 and people hated it then.

[RSSR]

Oh God yes I'll take a lot more '92-'94 shows as LTs!!! Wouldn't matter to me if we already had SBDs of them! I don't listen to taper pulls or SBDs, and multitracked shows might sound better anyway!

[cry_minarets458]

happy 12/12

was anybody there? warehouse packs quite a punch here coming out of the jam. no delay, just straight ripping.
crowd fucking bonkers during WWYS. this band man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD1EoG5YCw8

[cry_minarets458]

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

happy 12/12

was anybody there? warehouse packs quite a punch here coming out of the jam. no delay, just straight ripping.
crowd fucking bonkers during WWYS. this band man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD1EoG5YCw8

any BOWA pre-2008 just feels like a party in the crowd. electric guitar just kills it, and coffin can't play it like roi, though would stillt ake it at any show.

[cry_minarets458]

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

any BOWA pre-2008 just feels like a party in the crowd. electric guitar just kills it, and coffin can't play it like roi, though would stillt ake it at any show.

im happy im listening to this show today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD1EoG5YCw8 (same link as my post two posts ago)

this cut of TSTJL is fucking magical.

[cry_minarets458]

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

im happy im listening to this show today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD1EoG5YCw8 (same link as my post two posts ago)

this cut of TSTJL is fucking magical.

Crush is an even bigger party. Wow wow

i never hear this show talked about

[Matt83]

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

Crush is an even bigger party. Wow wow

i never hear this show talked about

It's better than the next night (12/13), that's all I got. 😄😶

[bmt322]

What does it mean when someone gets credit for writing a song? Is it for lyrics only? Any of the music? Why are most of the songs written by Dave, and some others is a mix of some or all of the other members?

[OK_Ant]

I believe song credit is linked to royalties.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by bmt322

What does it mean when someone gets credit for writing a song? Is it for lyrics only? Any of the music? Why are most of the songs written by Dave, and some others is a mix of some or all of the other members?

It means that Dave is credited to have written all aspects of the original song. Music and lyrics. Most songs on Remember Two Things and Under The Table And Dreaming were written solely but Dave. The rest of the band started getting more involved once they were truly established, which is why they are credited more on Crash and beyond.

For example: The Last Stop and The Dreaming Tree are credited to both Dave and Stefan. Stefan wrote the music to those songs, and Dave wrote the lyrics.

Originally Posted by OK_Ant

I believe song credit is linked to royalties.

This is also true. The more you are credited, the more you get paid for the work.

[ISawTheBridge10]

Originally Posted by OK_Ant

I believe song credit is linked to royalties.

I saw Billy Corgan explain to Joe Rogan. The band gets paid a flat amount for the recording of album, which they split, but the credited song writer gets paid a separate additional amount for every song.

So, and I'm just making numbers up here for the sake of example, for Under the Table and Dreaming, which sold 6 million copies:

Each band member gets .20 cents per album sold. That's $1.2 million per band member.

Dave, as the sole credited song writer, gets an additional .02 cents for every song. 12 songs on UTTAD. That's .24 cents per album. That's an additional $1.44 million for Dave.

So for UTTAD, every band member gets $1.2 million, and Dave gets $2.64 million.

Again, these numbers are made up for the sake of the example.


The point of the Corgan interview was to show how he pulled away from the other Smashing Pumpkin band members financially, which caused turmoil.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by ISawTheBridge10

I saw Billy Corgan explain to Joe Rogan. The band gets paid a flat amount for the recording of album, which they split, but the credited song writer gets paid a separate additional amount for every song.

So, and I'm just making numbers up here for the sake of example, for Under the Table and Dreaming, which sold 6 million copies:

Each band member gets .20 cents per album sold. That's $1.2 million per band member.

Dave, as the sole credited song writer, gets an additional .02 cents for every song. 12 songs on UTTAD. That's .24 cents per album. That's an additional $1.44 million for Dave.

So for UTTAD, every band member gets $1.2 million, and Dave gets $2.64 million.

Again, these numbers are made up for the sake of the example.


The point of the Corgan interview was to show how he pulled away from the other Smashing Pumpkin band members financially, which caused turmoil.

I saw that interview. Even though I don't necessarily disagree with him, it's not shocking that his attitude about it caused turmoil.

[bmt322]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

It means that Dave is credited to have written all aspects of the original song. Music and lyrics. Most songs on Remember Two Things and Under The Table And Dreaming were written solely but Dave. The rest of the band started getting more involved once they were truly established, which is why they are credited more on Crash and beyond.

For example: The Last Stop and The Dreaming Tree are credited to both Dave and Stefan. Stefan wrote the music to those songs, and Dave wrote the lyrics.



This is also true. The more you are credited, the more you get paid for the work.

Going a step further, what does writing the music mean? Did Stefan write the music for all the different instruments in the band? I can't imagine that being the case.

[OK_Ant]

If a band is a democracy, like U2 seems to be in terms of sharing song credits, maybe whomever comes up with the skeletal idea and/or contributes the most to the creation gets credit/extra money? Look at The Dreaming Tree and Squirm, written by Dave and one other person. Or some of the other Big Whiskey songs where Roi was given credit despite having died before the songs were finished/written.

[ISawTheBridge10]

Originally Posted by OK_Ant

If a band is a democracy, like U2 seems to be in terms of sharing song credits, maybe whomever comes up with the skeletal idea and/or contributes the most to the creation gets credit/extra money? Look at The Dreaming Tree and Squirm, written by Dave and one other person. Or some of the other Big Whiskey songs where Roi was given credit despite having died before the songs were finished/written.

Interesting. I'm not sure how that kind of thing is split up. Looking at some of U2's discography song credits, lyrics are written by Bono but songs are composed by U2. Not sure if that gives Bono a bigger slice of the pie, or if it's almost a Elton John-Bernie Taupin process where the line is drawn where music is Elton's but the lyrics are Taupin's

[TerrapinMonkey]

There are definitely semantics involved when it comes to royalties. For instance, Carter can always say he wrote the drum parts and can argue the songs themselves wouldn't be so popular without his contribution. I know a lot of the early songs have the whole band credited, when Dave himself likely "wrote" the song. But there are certainly some that are solely credited to Dave.

[TerrapinMonkey]

Originally Posted by bmt322

Going a step further, what does writing the music mean? Did Stefan write the music for all the different instruments in the band? I can't imagine that being the case.

That's the semantics. No way Stefan came up with the parts for everyone, but he came up with the idea, that the others than built parts on. It's all so weird. It's also why bands get mad when someone goes and makes a solo album. They get all that money and pay hired hands a contract to record it. The hired hands get no royalties. Only the pay for the hours they put in. The band is left in the dust while the solo artist then gets money for royalties on the album AND likely gets to tour on it.

Like when Dave went solo in 03/04.

[hopewelljones]

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

any BOWA pre-2008 just feels like a party in the crowd. electric guitar just kills it, and coffin can't play it like roi, though would stillt ake it at any show.

The Lakeside 2011 version is probably my favorite Jeff solo of all time, it's so good. But otherwise yeah, big time, this song was way better back in the day.

[spoot388]

writing credits can also be given to people who had no part of the writing process. bob marley gave writing credits to a guy named vincent ford on no woman no cry and several other songs. ford ran a soup kitchen and marley gave him credit so he would receive royalties to help keep the soup kitchen open.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by bmt322

Going a step further, what does writing the music mean? Did Stefan write the music for all the different instruments in the band? I can't imagine that being the case.

Whoever gets credit for contributing to the song's structure, chord progression, and lyrics is considered the "writer" of a song.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by bmt322

Going a step further, what does writing the music mean? Did Stefan write the music for all the different instruments in the band? I can't imagine that being the case.

Furthermore, Drumbeats and drum patterns are not typically considered songwriting – it's not typical to copyright a drumbeat. The law makes clear that lyrics, melody, harmony, and rhythm can be copyrighted. Most often, lyrics and melody are afforded protection under the law before the other two.

[kmb40oz]

https://twitter.com/davematthewsbnd/...21648802168832
The home town shows in Charlottesville on November 14 & 15, 2018 were a highlight of the fall/winter tour that year, with special guests
@preshallband
, Joe Lawlor and John D’Earth. #DMBhistory

These shows were in December. The band's social media team is the worst.

[TerrapinMonkey]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

Furthermore, Drumbeats and drum patterns are not typically considered songwriting – it's not typical to copyright a drumbeat. The law makes clear that lyrics, melody, harmony, and rhythm can be copyrighted. Most often, lyrics and melody are afforded protection under the law before the other two.

Ya, but Carter isn't playing your typical 1-2. His shit should be copyrighted.

[TerrapinMonkey]

Originally Posted by kmb40oz

https://twitter.com/davematthewsbnd/...21648802168832
The home town shows in Charlottesville on November 14 & 15, 2018 were a highlight of the fall/winter tour that year, with special guests
@preshallband
, Joe Lawlor and John D’Earth. #DMBhistory

These shows were in December. The band's social media team is the worst.

Ya. This isn't the first time they've gotten something blatantly wrong either. Not sure why they don't at least get a fan to do that stuff. This person read a release and just said what the fuck November.