The NHL Thread

[TMoore4075]

Is Harry Sinden running things again? Next Bergeron will be traded for a bunch of scrps like O'Connell did with Thornton. Granted he did have a trade in place for Thornton for Luongo until the Panthers owner nixed it.

[JRS1386]

Bye bye Rinaldo

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

I don't care about that pick. Just hate the player they got.

the player they got and the pick they lost are both loses IMO

[kev87lads]

His career PM to Point ratio is 24/1.

[fonzz41]

The whole low point total thing wouldn't be so big a deal if Rinaldo brought some sort of value to the team. Whether it's character, penalty killing, 4th liner who bangs and works hard, etc. That might make the trade worth it.

But Rinaldo unfortunately has no clear-cut NHL skills. He's one of the handful of enforcers left in the NHL. He's not a good skater, has no real offensive skills or even instincts, he's not fast enough to play a defensive game and doesn't seem to have the hockey sense to even play positionally well. I hate to bag on the guy, but he realistically doesn't belong in the league.

Remember when Chicago acquired Daniel Carcillo? I think they got him for a 7th rounder, was it? And that guy at least has some semblance of skill.

If you look back the last couple pages, you'll see me attempting to justify some of Sweeney's draft day decisions. But I have run out of ideas. Flabbergasted.

[fonzz41]

Lidstrom, Pronger, Federov, and Housley for the HHOF.

EDIT: Ruggiero getting in as well is awesome (Sal called it).

[UCFish]

Kings trying to be real shady I see.

[rickyh24]

So a guy that got into the hall was traded a few days ago?

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

So a guy that got into the hall was traded a few days ago?

Yah that's fucked up. Lidstrom was a nobrainer and Fedorov should be in too so psyched for that.

[~Crashintome89~]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

But Rinaldo unfortunately has no clear-cut NHL skills. He's one of the handful of enforcers left in the NHL. He's not a good skater, has no real offensive skills or even instincts, he's not fast enough to play a defensive game and doesn't seem to have the hockey sense to even play positionally well. I hate to bag on the guy, but he realistically doesn't belong in the league.

Rinaldo can actually skate, and he's one of the better hitters in the league.

But you're absolutely right in the fact that he has no hockey sense, offensive skill, or the wherefore to play a defensive game. The Flyers hoped his hitting ability and speed could do something on the PK, and he flat out just sucked because his hockey I.Q. does not exist.

[Roose13]

Ron Hextall is a fucking wizard.

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~

Rinaldo can actually skate, and he's one of the better hitters in the league.

But you're absolutely right in the fact that he has no hockey sense, offensive skill, or the wherefore to play a defensive game. The Flyers hoped his hitting ability and speed could do something on the PK, and he flat out just sucked because his hockey I.Q. does not exist.

Pretty much this. He is a good skater and a good hitter but he is so dumb that he doesn't know how to use his positive qualities. He failed as a PKer which was his last shot at any value.

[lockman21]

What drugs are the Bruins front office on?

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by lockman21

What drugs are the Bruins front office on?

They are trying to get into the lottery. Years of being in it will pay off eventually. You should know that.

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

They are trying to get into the lottery. Years of being in it will pay off eventually. You should know that.

Tell that to Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci, and Claude Julien.

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~

Rinaldo can actually skate, and he's one of the better hitters in the league.

But you're absolutely right in the fact that he has no hockey sense, offensive skill, or the wherefore to play a defensive game. The Flyers hoped his hitting ability and speed could do something on the PK, and he flat out just sucked because his hockey I.Q. does not exist.

I'll defer to you as you've obviously watched him play WAY more than I have. The instances I've seen him, he certainly skated "hard", but not necessarily "well". But again, small sample size on my part.

Kudos to Hextall on doing a very good job after inheriting basically a GM's nightmare.

[lockman21]

Rinaldo is my least favorite player currently employed by the league. He's fucking terrible in every single way.

[rickyh24]

Not getting nhl center ice this year because of Rinaldo.

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Not getting nhl center ice this year because of Rinaldo.

[~Crashintome89~]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

I'll defer to you as you've obviously watched him play WAY more than I have.

Look man, I didn't want to have to watch him.

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~

Look man, I didn't want to have to watch him.

I applaud you for your courage.

[salrx95]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

Lidstrom, Pronger, Federov, and Housley for the HHOF.

EDIT: Ruggiero getting in as well is awesome (Sal called it).

Not sure if I called was happy to see it. We need more Italians in the HHOF!!

And did I really just back read over a page of Rinaldo.

[salrx95]

More positive Snow commentary. No more back-up goalie-turned GM talk. That's for sure.

Speaking of the Islanders, we might as well get this out of the way:
Garth Snow being really good at this: 95/100 — Admit it. When eccentric Islanders owner Charles Wang decided to name his backup goaltender the team’s new GM, you assumed the whole thing would end up being a disaster. And yet, Snow has somehow emerged as one of the better front-office minds in the game, building the Islanders into a very good young team that seems well-positioned to contend for years.
He kept up the good work over the weekend, managing to twice trade up into the first round. That included a surprising deal with Edmonton that saw the Isles send Griffin Reinhart to the Oilers for the 16th and 33rd picks. Reinhart was the fourth pick in the 2012 draft, but the defenseman’s stock has fallen since then, and there are concerns over whether he’s really still a top-tier prospect. Snow turned him into two picks, one of which he used on Mathew Barzal, an explosive center who was surprisingly still available at no. 16.
Barzal is just the latest good young offensive player to join the Islanders, as Snow continues to show he’s a guy who just doesn’t make mistakes

[TMoore4075]

Hate to take away from the Rinaldo talk, bit with Lidstrom and Fedorov in the HHOF, that is 10 players, plus Scotty Bowman, from that 2002 Wings team in the hall of fame.

[JRS1386]

Rinaldo is a hustle player. Hustle and no skills does not do well in hockey unlike other sports

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Not getting nhl center ice this year because of Rinaldo.

They don't need your money!

/dmbc logic

[lockman21]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIbdY0nWgAA8Dul.jpg

[salrx95]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

Hate to take away from the Rinaldo talk, bit with Lidstrom and Fedorov in the HHOF, that is 10 players, plus Scotty Bowman, from that 2002 Wings team in the hall of fame.

In reading about Federov today, I was reminded about the time he played defense for like 6 weeks due to how shorthanded the wings were on D and he and the team didn't miss a step. Some cool quotes by Bowman in the article.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by lockman21

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIbdY0nWgAA8Dul.jpg

Perfect.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by salrx95

In reading about Federov today, I was reminded about the time he played defense for like 6 weeks due to how shorthanded the wings were on D and he and the team didn't miss a step. Some cool quotes by Bowman in the article.

Yeah Scotty did that a few times. Amazing he could play D without missing a step. I didn't like him back there cause I felt he was much more dynamic at forward. He was a little different. He was selfish in a way of wanting to get the big minutes and wanting to be the guy but also was a great teammate. He loved his teammates and would stick up for them too. I was pissed when he left cause he signed for about the same the Wings were offering but in retrospect, glad he left. Wings would have been in trouble coming out of the lost season had he still been on the books. For him it stinks cause his career was never the same after he left. That helped me get over my hate of him leaving. AFter he left, President's Trophy, President's Trophy, Best in the West and WCF, President's Trophy and Cup, trip to Stanley Cup Final.

edit: anyone hear what he said when he got the call? Said "I just orgasmed." lol