*Prompter Thread* (NO personal attacks, NO trolling)

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

I guess I’ve come around on this.

Obama commuted her sentence, she’s already served her time. This strong arm move seems like some form of double jeopardy honestly.

I don’t know. I don’t like these tactics by the state.

Whether you think she was a heroine or not for the Wikileaks stuff, "we're going to throw you in jail until you agree to comply" is some scary stuff and she's right to take a stand against it.

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by currupt3d**

The day we finally get to stop hearing about "Russia" and "muh collusion " 10,000 fucking times will be a great one.

Any comment on the NEW story that Giuliani is going to Ukraine to get briefed on the investigations the country is doing against Biden and the Steele dossier?

[cazzie34]

Or can we not comment on new political news in this thread?

[cazzie34]

If the trump administration wants the commentary to be about wonky policy debate then they need to stop fucking up. But....we didn't elect a boy scout! This is what we are going to get for the next 5+ years. If you don't want to be exhausted by it, vote for the Dem in 2020.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by kydmb99

Is there another way that government takes our money? What happens if you don’t pay it? Of course it’s by force.. and if you raise taxes on a certain group to pay for something someone else uses how is that not an infringement on their freedom? Sure we do it now but not because it isn’t restrictive only because it’s a level of restrictiveness we’re comfortable with.

Force implies a connotation that I'm just not comfortable with, is more of what I'm getting at. It's constitutional and all that jazz. Moreover, if you don't pay it and it's not intentional, the IRS generally works with you and you generally aren't being thrown in jail. Now if you subvert the law, that's a separate issue and you're a criminal. But it's not the taxman coming to your door and shaking you down for money. Again, I just really don't like the phrasing - it implies something more sinister.

Originally Posted by kydmb99

So if government hadn’t intervened just because prices were starting to go up do you think the prices would’ve escalated to where they are now or could the market have corrected it’s self/come up with more efficient alternatives? I mean you yourself have said there’s excess demand for college. Obviously excess demand creates bubbles. Where did that excess demand (and more importantly the funding for it) come from?

I can't really answer the first question there. I don't have enough data to really determine which was the chicken and which was the egg (between prices going up and loan availability). As far as where the demand came from - that's a mixed bag of 1) societal norms 2) needs for a more educated workforce 3) the appeal of higher paying jobs 4) entry level jobs that require more education than they have in the past (this could also be a chicken/egg thing).

Originally Posted by kydmb99

I know it’s cool in this thread to hate on “muh free market” (not at you specifically) but I think based on all available evidence it generally works pretty
damn well.. Plus, it’s a lot cheaper for the government. Now is there some role for government to aid low income students? I’m open to that. Paying for all of it? I’m not sure it’s the best idea.

I'm very pro-free market* (in most cases). It's why I'm extremely pro-trade and lament that that GOP has given in to Trump and now sides more with Schumer on trade than they did with Republican leaders of the past.

But I think you can be pro-free market and still recognize that not all markets are efficient, and that some are outright broken. I think in these cases there's a bigger role for government in the short term to try to right-size the ship. That's not so they can maintain controls long term, but if they can make the market more efficient and then hand things off, that would be good.

I'm in favor of debt forgiveness for 2 core reasons. First and foremost, me and my wife would benefit enormously as she has a high amount of student debt from her doctoral program. That's just me being a good capitalist working in my own self interest. Second, and more and more importantly on a macro level, elimination of even a fraction of student loan debt would drastically improve the financial health of the most economically important generation. Millennials could be contributing to the economy at a much higher level if not for their debt burden, and while our economy is relatively healthy right now, their outlook isn't as rosie as it should be. And in downturns, they get hit harder than other generations because of that debt. Out of all the areas where we use government funds or create new government debt to boost the economy, I believe cleaning up this would have a more direct effect and to a larger degree. We're 1 year out from a $1T tax package that was largely skewed towards corporations and the rich, and it did very little for growth. I have to imagine that $1T could have been far better allocated to eliminating student loan debt.

[coldengrey12]

I thought if you didn't pay your taxes that you got to be president.

[jcc522]

I’d vote for Pete.

[coldengrey12]

The clips of that ding dong Ben Shapiro's interview with Andrew Neil are gold. Calling Neil a leftist.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by currupt3d**

The day we finally get to stop hearing about "Russia" and "muh collusion " 10,000 fucking times will be a great one.

Ok...maybe your party's leader and now president shouldn't have hired a bunch of shady dudes for his campaign/admin who have Russian ties and have since been indicted on indirectly related crimes. Or maybe his family members shouldn't have met with Russian lawyers to get dirt on other Americans. Or maybe Trump associates shouldn't have met shady Russians on remote islands.

etc etc etc

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

The clips of that ding dong Ben Shapiro's interview with Andrew Neil are gold. Calling Neil a leftist.

And now he's on Twitter saying he was unprepared.

To answer questions about his own book.

[zajDmB1]

for fuck's sake

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...RJoUyrTtZcgOyY

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

for fuck's sake

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...RJoUyrTtZcgOyY

We're so close to "Trump steals candy from baby" and for his supporters to defend it

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by currupt3d**

The day we finally get to stop hearing about "Russia" and "muh collusion " 10,000 fucking times will be a great one.

maybe don't elect russian colluders?

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

We're so close to "Trump steals candy from baby" and for his supporters to defend it

Presidential Harassment!!

[AJF_41]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

for fuck's sake

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...RJoUyrTtZcgOyY

this shit is unreal

lol

[Lee3691]

Before we cancel student debt, we should cancel housing debt. Housing is more important than college.

[Route_2]

There is a less housing debt due to student debt.

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

And now he's on Twitter saying he was unprepared.

To answer questions about his own book.

there’s an episode of 30 rock where Tracy gets really mad at Kenneth for beating him at halo bc all of Tracy’s friends had been letting him win for years and he didn’t realize he sucks at halo. anyways that’s what’s going on when Ben Shapiro storms out of book interviews

https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/sta...432191488?s=19

[ShotgunDMB]

Daily reminder that we never had Free Trade ™️ with China

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

there’s an episode of 30 rock where Tracy gets really mad at Kenneth for beating him at halo bc all of Tracy’s friends had been letting him win for years and he didn’t realize he sucks at halo. anyways that’s what’s going on when Ben Shapiro storms out of book interviews

https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/sta...432191488?s=19

This is untoward, Liz Lemon! This is not toward!

[mdel21]

Probably my favorite 30 Rock joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qab0Dz5mEPQ

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by mdel21

Probably my favorite 30 Rock joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qab0Dz5mEPQ

Damn. So hard to pick a favorite 30 Rock joke.

This has to be among my favorites.

"She's unhinging her jaw!" is a phrase I've found a way to work into more conversations than you'd think.

[coldengrey12]

Liz: Really? You want to exchange creative gifts? Oh, well, you are the one that's in trouble now, buddy, because creativity to me is just like ... like a ... bird, like a friendly bird, that embraces all ... ideas, and just like, shoots ... out of its eyes, all kinds of beauty.

Jack: Wow, Lemon, this is like watching Hemingway write. Mark Hemingway.

[mdel21]

Another great one:
Liz asks Jenna how much she knows about Paul. She says "I lost a toe ring in him, so I’d say a lot."

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Before we cancel student debt, we should cancel housing debt. Housing is more important than college.

If you don't like your mortgage sell your house!

Or are you just arguing in bad faith?

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Daily reminder that we never had Free Trade ™️ with China

Daily reminder that all marathon runners have walked before...so don't congratulate them on their accomplishment...no difference

[zajDmB1]

If anyone remembers the lemon party site/photo, there's a couple Lemon party jokes throughout the series.

The best one being: https://youtu.be/v-bvHlb2Fe8

[coldengrey12]

This is the **Official 30 Rock Thread ** now.

Sorry not sorry.

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

If anyone remembers the lemon party site/photo, there's a couple Lemon party jokes throughout the series.

The best one being: https://youtu.be/v-bvHlb2Fe8

I remain shocked this^ joke made it to air.

There's a lot of great stuff in the Greenzo episode, but ending on the prop earth burning and Lemon yelling, "OK, this earth is ruined! We have to get a new one!" is

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

I remain shocked this^ joke made it to air.

There's a lot of great stuff in the Greenzo episode, but ending on the prop earth burning and Lemon yelling, "OK, this earth is ruined! We have to get a new one!" is

There's a 100% chance the censors didn't get it

[coldengrey12]

Oh, also, Al Gore leaves the Greenzo episode by saying, "Quiet! A whale needs me!" and running out of the scene. When he does another cameo a few seasons later, he's telling Tracy about the importance of recycling everything, even jokes, right before he puts his hand to his ear and says, "Shh! Quiet! A whale needs me!" and running out of the scene.