Star Wars: Han Solo (May 25th, 2018)

[chadizzy1]

To be fair, Harrison Ford was young when they filmed Episode IV. So it's hard to do "young" Han Solo when he was already young in Star Wars.

[drop2d]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

To be fair, Harrison Ford was young when they filmed Episode IV. So it's hard to do "young" Han Solo when he was already young in Star Wars.

Wasn't he like 35? I guess I'm not THAT old then!

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by sheldonlevene

I know it's a franchise and they're going to continue to grab cash, but this is a movie that just doesn't need made. It kind of betrays Han's appearance in IV.

Agreed, awful.

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

Here it is, the first cast photo:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-f...r-wars-a149125

Originally Posted by Lee3691

They should have CGI'd Han Solo. Looks like Star Wars meets Dawson's Creek.

I think it looks goofy bc they're wearing street clothes on the space ship, I'm looking forward to this movie though

[DeuceStep]

Originally Posted by sheldonlevene

I know it's a franchise and they're going to continue to grab cash, but this is a movie that just doesn't need made. It kind of betrays Han's appearance in IV.

I agree. The only thing it has going for it is the new Han is unknown to me, so I can possibly suspend reality, but probably not.

Also, Emilia Clarke has a bit of a chameleon thing going for her. She looks different in almost every role she takes. However, Woody Harrelson hanging around is just Woody Harrelson and that I will not be able to get past.

[sheldonlevene]

Me and my buddy were talking about this. So the way I see it there's three options:

1) Han is really always a good person deep down and his swindling and asshole(ish)ness in New Hope is an act (BAD)
2) He only swindles and double crosses bad people (meh)
or
3) He has always been a decent person and then something in this movie happens that sets him on course for his attitude/worldview in IV. (also meh)

All that being said, they have a pretty good 2 film track record right now. I thought Force Awakens was a terrible retread but won't act like it wasn't a well made, competent and funny entry into the numbered series. Conversely thought RO - the first spinoff effort was phenomenal and the best thing since Empire. So I will give this the benefit of the doubt and probably eventually see it.

[BAHHHTIWaC]

Hoping that this is all really just a Lando movie...

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by sheldonlevene

All that being said, they have a pretty good 2 film track record right now. I thought Force Awakens was a terrible retread but won't act like it wasn't a well made, competent and funny entry into the numbered series. Conversely thought RO - the first spinoff effort was phenomenal and the best thing since Empire. So I will give this the benefit of the doubt and probably eventually see it.

I haven't been overly impressed with either Disney film so far.

I enjoyed TFA. It was a satisfying return to what this franchise can do in live-action films on the big screen. It was a copy of a movie we've seen before in a lot of ways (ANH), but as a sort of reboot for the franchise, I think it did its job.

I had a lot of problems with RO.

[mrignatious]

Having rewatched both I am still a little confused as to why anyone who is a fan of the original trilogy would have major gripes with either. To each their own though I suppose.

[coldengrey12]

TFA is entertaining, but unoriginal. They've made that movie before. I didn't need another, more expensive ANH. I've seen that movie and I can watch it any time I want.

RO is a waste of time. A well-made waste of time, but still a waste of time. The action sequences looked great, but the emotional stakes for them were nonexistent. The characters were functions of the plot, not vice versa, and their internal logic was all over the place.

The best thing I can say about RO is that it made the "Oh, shit, the rebels are fighting back!" scene in ANH more powerful, but who the heck was screaming for that?

[TwoStep2888]

TFA was fun, it showed you can still make a good Star War

RO is terrific, my favorite movie of 2016 and probably my third favorite SW movie after ANH and Empire

[coldengrey12]

Genuinely asking myself this rn

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by mrignatious

Having rewatched both I am still a little confused as to why anyone who is a fan of the original trilogy would have major gripes with either. To each their own though I suppose.

Because people like to complain.

I'm with you. I thoroughly enjoyed both TFA & R1. They're both great additions to the SW Universe. Was either film perfect? Heck no! Were any of the OT perfect? Ummm...Ewoks? Boba Fett's death? Well maybe ESB was but that's also the best.

We all know the PT was FAR from perfect so I'm not seeing what the issue with the new universe. Do I think the Solo movie is dumb? Kinda. Am I still gonna see it? Multiple times in theaters.

[excitingjae]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

I haven't been overly impressed with either Disney film so far.

I enjoyed TFA. It was a satisfying return to what this franchise can do in live-action films on the big screen. It was a copy of a movie we've seen before in a lot of ways (ANH), but as a sort of reboot for the franchise, I think it did its job.

I had a lot of problems with RO.

For ME TFA is the 3rd best movie. I might like it slightly better than ANH but ANH was groundbreaking. Why would I like TFA over ANH? ANH does kind of drag in some parts. TFA does a great job of moving things along. I do think the First Order/Starkiller/Resistance was handled poorly. Rather confusing.

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

RO is a waste of time. A well-made waste of time, but still a waste of time. The action sequences looked great, but the emotional stakes for them were nonexistent. The characters were functions of the plot, not vice versa, and their internal logic was all over the place.

The best thing I can say about RO is that it made the "Oh, shit, the rebels are fighting back!" scene in ANH more powerful, but who the heck was screaming for that?

I agree 100% with this ^^^

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

Because people like to complain.

I'm with you. I thoroughly enjoyed both TFA & R1. They're both great additions to the SW Universe. Was either film perfect? Heck no! Were any of the OT perfect? Ummm...Ewoks? Boba Fett's death? Well maybe ESB was but that's also the best.

We all know the PT was FAR from perfect so I'm not seeing what the issue with the new universe. Do I think the Solo movie is dumb? Kinda. Am I still gonna see it? Multiple times in theaters.

people also like to ignore actual criticisms by saying "people like to complain"

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

people also like to ignore actual criticisms by saying "people like to complain"

I hear the criticism. I even acknowledge that TFA is flawed. It is way to similar to ANH but that doesn't take away from my enjoyment of it. Not necessarily just on Ants but people just like to jump on a bandwagon to bash a movie because it's the popular thing to do. When TFA first came out everyone was riding it's balls. Now everyone likes to hate on it.

[thebridge15]

I'm just saying that both parties exist. for each person who hates just to hate there is a fanboy who loves just cause it's star wars

[mrignatious]

Not sure it's exactly 1:1 but I see your point.

[recentlyJTR41]

Love SW and I'm sure I'll see this, but there's no way in hell it will even come close to Rogue One. Cash grab like someone mentioned above.


Gonna go out on a limb and say this will be the worst "new" SW imo tbh

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

Love SW and I'm sure I'll see this, but there's no way in hell it will even come close to Rogue One. Cash grab like someone mentioned above.


Gonna go out on a limb and say this will be the worst "new" SW imo tbh

I'm trying hard to wait to see it before I really judge it but I can't help but think that the cast, crew, directors, etc. have all read the comments online about please don't do this movie. I would hope that they're taking the utmost care in consideration of that feedback.

Looking at Marvel (since they're basically sisters now), I think about Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy and how these movies that everyone expected to fail and be awful, actually turned out really enjoyable.

That said: I'm still in the mindset that this movie doesn't need to be made. It's unnecessary when there's so many other characters and stories that could be creating instead.

[MOWJO8185]

For me, it's not so much about how good a story they can tell about Han Solo, but more about keeping an iconic character iconic. I have no doubt that there are really cool stories to tell about a young Han Solo (whether the story they choose to tell WILL be good is a question, but there are certainly ways to make a good Han Solo movie). But Harrison Ford just IS Han Solo. I know basically everything gets remade these days, but Star Wars felt untouchable for such a long time, and no matter how great a script they come up with, and no matter how good an actor this dude may be, it will just feel wrong to see someone else play Han Solo.

[thebridge15]

I just think my inherent problem is that the entire movie's existence is just based on "member han solo?"

we saw his youth as a renowned scoundrel. we already saw that movie

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

I'm trying hard to wait to see it before I really judge it but I can't help but think that the cast, crew, directors, etc. have all read the comments online about please don't do this movie. I would hope that they're taking the utmost care in consideration of that feedback.

Looking at Marvel (since they're basically sisters now), I think about Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy and how these movies that everyone expected to fail and be awful, actually turned out really enjoyable.

That said: I'm still in the mindset that this movie doesn't need to be made. It's unnecessary when there's so many other characters and stories that could be creating instead.

Originally Posted by thebridge15

I just think my inherent problem is that the entire movie's existence is just based on "member han solo?"

we saw his youth as a renowned scoundrel. we already saw that movie

I'm with you guys. What's the story? He's a smuggler....ok? So we're getting a space pirate movie? Will there be any jedi or anything remotely close to the other films? I'm sure the Empire will play a role, but no Darth Vader I'm assuming.

This will be before Ep. IV, no? So we're getting a film that will roughly be in the same time period as Rogue One....?

[coldengrey12]

I assume it'll be some smuggler hijinks. Maybe him running an errand for Jabba and messing it up.

[excitingjae]

I posted this elsewhere online so I'm just going to copy/paste it here

Hopefully they won't tie it directly to A New Hope/Empire. To show scenes referenced in those movies just cheapens those moments of dialogue. (eg "Won it fair and square.") Leave some stuff left unseen.

You don't need
•Han dropping cargo at the sight of an Imperial Cruiser
•Han winning the Falcon
•The Kessel Run (Heck, do we know that Han even did the Kessel Run? He brags that THE SHIP made the run. Perhaps he wasn't the pilot when it happened?)

You can do this movie so it's like 2-3 years before A New Hope. You don't need to end it with Han parking the Falcon at Docking Bay 94.

[MOWJO8185]

Originally Posted by excitingjae

I posted this elsewhere online so I'm just going to copy/paste it here

Hopefully they won't tie it directly to A New Hope/Empire. To show scenes referenced in those movies just cheapens those moments of dialogue. (eg "Won it fair and square.") Leave some stuff left unseen.

You don't need
•Han dropping cargo at the sight of an Imperial Cruiser
•Han winning the Falcon
•The Kessel Run (Heck, do we know that Han even did the Kessel Run? He brags that THE SHIP made the run. Perhaps he wasn't the pilot when it happened?)

You can do this movie so it's like 2-3 years before A New Hope. You don't need to end it with Han parking the Falcon at Docking Bay 94.

I mean, that will almost 100% happen though, right?

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by excitingjae

I posted this elsewhere online so I'm just going to copy/paste it here

Hopefully they won't tie it directly to A New Hope/Empire. To show scenes referenced in those movies just cheapens those moments of dialogue. (eg "Won it fair and square.") Leave some stuff left unseen.

You don't need
•Han dropping cargo at the sight of an Imperial Cruiser
•Han winning the Falcon
•The Kessel Run (Heck, do we know that Han even did the Kessel Run? He brags that THE SHIP made the run. Perhaps he wasn't the pilot when it happened?)

You can do this movie so it's like 2-3 years before A New Hope. You don't need to end it with Han parking the Falcon at Docking Bay 94.

Exactly. The Kessel Run is better if it's not true, some B.S. story that Han made up.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by excitingjae

You don't need
•Han dropping cargo at the sight of an Imperial Cruiser
•Han winning the Falcon
•The Kessel Run (Heck, do we know that Han even did the Kessel Run? He brags that THE SHIP made the run. Perhaps he wasn't the pilot when it happened?)

all of this is going to happen

feel like they cast lando so they can show han winning the ship from him

[DeuceStep]

Damn, some good possible plot points, all of which will cheapen the movie. Yeah, keep Han iconic and not have everything feed right into A New Hope at Docking Bay 94.

[BAHHHTIWaC]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

I'm with you guys. What's the story? He's a smuggler....ok? So we're getting a space pirate movie? Will there be any jedi or anything remotely close to the other films? I'm sure the Empire will play a role, but no Darth Vader I'm assuming.

This will just be a shot-for-shot retake of Serenity.