Outdoors Thread

[john baptiste]

Originally Posted by Penguins87

Rivers for sure man, a lake cant bring the rush that white water does. I live in Alabama so theres not many great rides around but we go up to Tennessee and North Carolina and they have some good starter rides you could look into if you want to get into it

right on. i'm in iowa, though. i'd love to get down there someday.

[krbarrett77]

Originally Posted by mr.MikeD

by "ethical shot" do you mean kill instead of wound?

more or less. there's obviously no hunter that can take a shot and know with certainty that he won't wound instead of kill...but most bows have sight pins for 10-40 yards. A good shooter can get comfortable from 50 in good light, but much past that the deer can react or the wind can take it, etc. i'd imagine you're trying to say that a kill isn't "ethical" either...but unless you're a vegetarian that argument's going to fall apart.

Originally Posted by PilotC150

FYI, I know guys who bow hunt without scent blockers and without sitting in a tree. You just have to stay downwind. One guy said he was within 10-15 yards of a deer, crouched down in a ditch, and the deer didn't know he was there. He had to pull his bow back and hold it for quite a long time, and it wasn't the kind where the load is descreased on a full pull, until the deer turned for him to take the shot.

The reason it seemed familiar to me is because it was you who told this same story last time and raised these same objections. I still have the same objections too. 1. Property lines today prevent this frontiersman type of hunting 2. common sense prevents this type of hunting (scent sticks around regardless of wind direction. if the deer travels back to the food source he was on that morning (and he will, they all do), he's gonna smell your trip across his path and decide to find a different food source off your land). We won't agree, although i can absolutely respect where you're coming from, there are a lot of hunters who make it an ethically suspect sport. Instead of raising a stink of controversy in such a peaceful thread I'm going to back down and say instead:

I love the outdoors. being outside means a lot to me. it's the time of year where i get to do it a lot, and it makes every day that much sweeter!

[AlanA4]

Originally Posted by john baptiste

right on. i'm in iowa, though. i'd love to get down there someday.

The rivers in NC and Tennessee are absolutely amazing, I go every chance I can. Last year I went up to west virginia and rode the upper gauley. Best rapids I've ever been on.

[nadia]

Originally Posted by AlanA4

The rivers in NC and Tennessee are absolutely amazing, I go every chance I can. Last year I went up to west virginia and rode the upper gauley. Best rapids I've ever been on.

The New River, good times. Sept/Oct is the best time of year, too.

[PilotC150]

Originally Posted by krbarrett77

The reason it seemed familiar to me is because it was you who told this same story last time and raised these same objections. I still have the same objections too.

They are perfectly valid objections and I completely understand. I was just pointing out that it is possible.

[AlanA4]

^ I actually live in Boone NC so the new river is like my backyard. I'm very lucky, I go out all the time and you're exactly right about september and october

[mr.MikeD]

Originally Posted by krbarrett77

more or less. there's obviously no hunter that can take a shot and know with certainty that he won't wound instead of kill...but most bows have sight pins for 10-40 yards. A good shooter can get comfortable from 50 in good light, but much past that the deer can react or the wind can take it, etc. i'd imagine you're trying to say that a kill isn't "ethical" either...but unless you're a vegetarian that argument's going to fall apart.

just curious about the terminology. i'm not anti-hunting, except maybe for trophy hunting grizzlies for big money, or the like. I did have the thought that bow hunting might be more "cruel" for lack of a better word, due to the higher chance of not killing that animal. But good to know that it's something that is taken into account by hunters.

[gravedigger07]

Originally Posted by dmbigeyedphish

currently teaching a backpacking class

I've done alot of the AT around the damascus area

climbing enthusiast, gear head, whitewater canoe fan, true love is backpacking

Do you just climb top rope or what? Is there some good rock in your area?

[dmbigeyedphish]

Originally Posted by gravedigger07

Do you just climb top rope or what? Is there some good rock in your area?

Mostly top-rope. I've been getting into some anchor construction type stuff lately so that I can go with some friends on our own.

I'm Raleigh so the best places are indoor. The nearest decent rock is about 4 hours away. Pilot. Some cool places in boone and asheville though

[gravedigger07]

Thats tight man, I love lead climbing. I cant wait to start climbing trad and learning how to use protection other than just clipping in to anchors.

[gravedigger07]

I am going free water soloing this weekend! Yay, and I have an 1/8 of mushrooms for around the fire. Should be a good weekend.

[GLR87]

Hiking 10.6 miles tomorrow to the pinnacle and back on the A.T. in PA should be a great day!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1250/...b75cbd.jpg?v=0

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...34048272eTPZHt

[maccajo]

nice thread.
yeah, when I'm not running I love climbing.
even though some trad climbers talk mad shit about bouldering, I really like it.
it's fun and a lot less stressful.
-thinking about blowing out a nut scares the shit out of me. I mean a stopper is bomber if placed correctly, but just thinking of it walking while i move up is pretty intense.

competed back up til sr year in high school... I'm legit.

but not too legit.
def not too legit to quit. No dave graham here. although he is by far my favorite climber.

[walktheline]

first ice around here! livin life on the edge, one step at a time. i'd say 3.5 inches is plenty to walk on. it's just a fish, but good fish. peace.

i like the thread! keep on breathing the free air.

[seekup41nancies]

I love me some fishing!

[bluesbrother41]

ive done some mild climbing. i think the place was called curahee or something like that? in north georgia, kind of near clayton...
and the most ive ever hiked was 10 miles, and i thought that was pretty rough, so idk if the AT would be that appealing. it does seem like a great experience though.

[gravedigger07]

Originally Posted by maccajo

nice thread.
yeah, when I'm not running I love climbing.
even though some trad climbers talk mad shit about bouldering, I really like it.
it's fun and a lot less stressful.
-thinking about blowing out a nut scares the shit out of me. I mean a stopper is bomber if placed correctly, but just thinking of it walking while i move up is pretty intense.

competed back up til sr year in high school... I'm legit.

but not too legit.
def not too legit to quit. No dave graham here. although he is by far my favorite climber.

Dude I want to start climbing trad but need some more experience placing protection, Dave Graham is a pimp....although Sharma is still the man.

What difficulty do you climb? Do you just boulder or do you climb sport some too?

[dmbdreamingtree]

bass fisherman, fisherman in general, hiker... love taking my jeep wrangler out for the weekend.

i really want to get into rock climbing.

i've been to zion, bryce, arches, grand canyon, lake powell area, red wood forrest, yosemite, all up and down northern cali, panguitch, and many more...

[dmbdreamingtree]

Originally Posted by chevman

i worked as a backcountry ranger for the us forest service for 5 years.

i climbed occasionally (maybe once a month) while on the job, and then we would always do fall climbing trips that ended in vegas (red rocks) and so-cal (j-tree, mojave).

i was always a rookie at it, my buddies usually led the routes and set the pro. i manned the belay station and made sure our bong made it up safely.

don't ask me how but i got lost at red rocks once, and was freaking out... you ever been up to mt. charleston?

[maccajo]

Originally Posted by gravedigger07

Dude I want to start climbing trad but need some more experience placing protection, Dave Graham is a pimp....although Sharma is still the man.

What difficulty do you climb? Do you just boulder or do you climb sport some too?

Well I just finished my first college xc season and went climbing for the first time in about two months. I flashed v7 and then got another 7 so I guess i'm ok. like I said though, no dave graham.

yep that trad climbing is nuts. I remember climbing a 5.8 trad route and being blown away...
i'd say trad is more for the enjoyment of climbing and sport/bouldering are more for being a beast.

-oh, yeah I sport climb.

and also, sharma is way balla, but I climb a lot more like graham - crimpers, knee drops. I love that shit.
don't have much sharma power however.

[gravedigger07]

Originally Posted by maccajo

Well I just finished my first college xc season and went climbing for the first time in about two months. I flashed v7 and then got another 7 so I guess i'm ok. like I said though, no dave graham.

yep that trad climbing is nuts. I remember climbing a 5.8 trad route and being blown away...
i'd say trad is more for the enjoyment of climbing and sport/bouldering are more for being a beast.

-oh, yeah I sport climb.

and also, sharma is way balla, but I climb a lot more like graham - crimpers, knee drops. I love that shit.
don't have much sharma power however.

I wish I could flash v7 without climbing for 2 months and not getting beta.

Yeah I like graham because of how static he climbs, sharma just dyno's to whatever he wants. Have you seen graham's hangboard workout on youtube?

[gravedigger07]

Oh yeah what is a college XC season?

[dmbigeyedphish]

Originally Posted by GLR87

Hiking 10.6 miles tomorrow to the pinnacle and back on the A.T. in PA should be a great day!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1250/...b75cbd.jpg?v=0

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...34048272eTPZHt

thats a hell of a view. not too much mileage either. That'd be an awesome hike in..depending on the difficulty you could make it a day hike.

[gravedigger07]

Originally Posted by dmbigeyedphish

thats a hell of a view. not too much mileage either. That'd be an awesome hike in..depending on the difficulty you could make it a day hike.

Thats a sweet view excluding the red spray paint on the rock in the right hand corner.

[GLR87]

Originally Posted by dmbigeyedphish

thats a hell of a view. not too much mileage either. That'd be an awesome hike in..depending on the difficulty you could make it a day hike.

Yep, missed our exit up there.. didn't hit the trail til 2 but we made it up there in 2 hours and we hiked back in the dark, which wasn't bad at all.. actually pretty cool to experience it, here's my friend John's site it has some pics from yesterday.

http://www.geocities.com/aristotle222/

[maccajo]

Originally Posted by gravedigger07

Oh yeah what is a college XC season?

cross country running.

[mr.MikeD]

Originally Posted by maccajo

cross country running.

i dated a xc country team girl once. never been in better shape, couldn't let her show me up.

[GLR87]

Backpacking the Appalachian Trail - Lehigh to Little Gaps... camping out there, should be tons of snow on the ground ill be going the 22nd-23rd can't wait!

Here's a couple pictures i found but thats just the initial section of the trail... i'll be doing around 10 miles or so in total.

http://www.tienmao.com/archives/001936.html

[WoodstockAimee]

Originally Posted by GLR87

Backpacking the Appalachian Trail - Lehigh to Little Gaps... camping out there, should be tons of snow on the ground ill be going the 22nd-23rd can't wait!

Here's a couple pictures i found but thats just the initial section of the trail... i'll be doing around 10 miles or so in total.

http://www.tienmao.com/archives/001936.html

Noice! Just 10 miles? :coughLIGHTWEIGHTcough

[dmbroncosfan27]

Originally Posted by GLR87

Backpacking the Appalachian Trail - Lehigh to Little Gaps... camping out there, should be tons of snow on the ground ill be going the 22nd-23rd can't wait!

Here's a couple pictures i found but thats just the initial section of the trail... i'll be doing around 10 miles or so in total.

http://www.tienmao.com/archives/001936.html

Ever been snow shoeing?