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Old 07-25-2012, 04:21 PM   #1
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The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

I've been searching for a long time for a torrent download of the lillywhite sessions remastered by karmageddon and still can't find one... can anyone post a link? Thanks in advance it is much appreciated!
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

    I think they're on ZachR's site.

    http://mindshatter.com/dmb/


    edit: maybe not... hmm... thought they were.

    edit2: http://mindshatter.com/dmb/category/2000/
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    Old 07-25-2012, 04:26 PM   #3
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

    Here you go. Credit goes to ZachR

    http://mindshatter.com/dmb/2009/11/1...hite-sessions/
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

    Alright thanks again!
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

    Thanks for the great link.
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    Thanks for the bump this mix is stellar
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    Old 05-04-2014, 12:38 PM   #7
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

    It's the best quality I could find. When I pressed my own copy of tLWS to vinyl, it's the master I used.

    Couldn't get Lillywhite to give me the master tapes
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

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    It's the best quality I could find. When I pressed my own copy of tLWS to vinyl, it's the master I used.

    Couldn't get Lillywhite to give me the master tapes

    Wait you can do that?
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

    Okay, what exactly does everyone mean by "remastered"? Did someone actually gain access to the masters? Or is this just the publicly-leaked audio files, beefed up/modified with some audio editing software?

    Edit: Nevermind, I think the previous comment explains it.
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

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    Okay, what exactly does everyone mean by "remastered"? Did someone actually gain access to the masters? Or is this just the publicly-leaked audio files, beefed up/modified with some audio editing software?
    "Well I was never a fan of DMB in the first place. Back in 2002 an online friend asked me to take a whirl at putting the "final" touches on [the Lillywhite Sessions] for his own personal collection, as he was very pleased with my other work. We worked out a deal and I took the original SHN files to a very nice (now out of business) studio I had contract work with.

    The files were burnt to a CD-R first and foremost then ran through, one track at a time, through thousdands of dollars worth of ANALOG gear, such as a White 1/3 Octave Parametric EQ, Apogee A/D-D/A Converters (sorry they were 16bit and 44.1 no upsampling here) and a Manley tube compressor set at a very low ratio.

    Also went through some image balancing (in other words each channel was tweeked by ear to sound perfect stereo witht he vocal and snare and kick perfectly aligned up the front).

    All files were burned at 2x to a Tayio Yuden CD-R using CD Architect. There were some minor fades applied to all trax as well as pro dithering and quantiziation noise

    In english...it is as good a professional copy you will find. Not to toot my own horn, but i have yet to hear another "master/remaster" of this title that sounds this good.

    As well: this CD was never mastered in the first place, so the point in calling it a remaster is actually false. but this way it remains in the trading circles properly labeled in connection with the other "masters/remaster" of this.

    Note on the actual music: Again I was never a big fan of DMB, but working on this CD and being a fan of Steve Lillywhtie's previous work, I got hooked. It is the only album I enjoy of theirs and wa snot terribly impressed with the actual release Busted Stuff. Thought that one sounded sterile.

    Anyways, I am sure there are lots of you who will grab this. Please leave comments (good & bad) about the sound and quality. I am curious to know...

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    Old 05-04-2014, 07:16 PM   #11
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    karmageddon is incredible!! Not sure what else to say.
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    This sounds fantastic! I've had the old original copy circulated in 2001 ish, and always wanted to hear some kind of crisp version of it. Finally! Wow.
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    Old 05-05-2014, 05:48 AM   #13
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

    thanks for this - i needed to upgrade my crappy mp3s!
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    love the remaster in lossless format! thanks so much.
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

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    Okay, what exactly does everyone mean by "remastered"? Did someone actually gain access to the masters? Or is this just the publicly-leaked audio files, beefed up/modified with some audio editing software?

    Edit: Nevermind, I think the previous comment explains it.
    you can't master a 1 track recording anymore than you can upconvert a file. It sounds nice what he did, but other than making it louder there's not a lot to be done
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

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    you can't master a 1 track recording anymore than you can upconvert a file. It sounds nice what he did, but other than making it louder there's not a lot to be done
    In effect, it's the same thing.

    A) You get a good, solid mix of the multi-track recordings
    B) You bounce them down to a master channel
    C) You "master" the master

    The stuff Karmageddon is talking about - image shaping, EQ, compression - is all stuff you do to the master channel, not each individual track.

    The only difference - wasn't the original source of The Lillywhite Sessions mp3? If so, you can't make lossy audio 'loss-less' - you can only polish it up, make it louder, etc.
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

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    In effect, it's the same thing.

    A) You get a good, solid mix of the multi-track recordings
    B) You bounce them down to a master channel
    C) You "master" the master

    The stuff Karmageddon is talking about - image shaping, EQ, compression - is all stuff you do to the master channel, not each individual track.

    The only difference - wasn't the original source of The Lillywhite Sessions mp3? If so, you can't make lossy audio 'loss-less' - you can only polish it up, make it louder, etc.
    And that's about all he's done. I just went through and did a track-by-track comparison, with my original 2001 mp3's and the karmageddon version. It's slightly better, but only slightly. Doesn't sound quite as distorted as my copies, and has bit more bass & "sparkle" to it, but not a dramatic amount. Still, I'm keeping his tracks and ditching my old versions.
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

    I've got a question: there's a video on youtube called "Audiosurf: The Lillywhite Sessions" that's supposedly the mastered version. (I'm not sure whether posting links is a good idea.)

    I've listened to it and it sounds no different to me, so I'm wondering if anyone can confirm whether it is the mastered version or not.
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    Re: The Lillywhite Sessions Remastered

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    I've got a question: there's a video on youtube called "Audiosurf: The Lillywhite Sessions" that's supposedly the mastered version. (I'm not sure whether posting links is a good idea.)

    I've listened to it and it sounds no different to me, so I'm wondering if anyone can confirm whether it is the mastered version or not.
    Well, that's the thing--if it sounds no different to you, it doesn't particularly matter if it's "remastered" or not.
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    And that's about all he's done. I just went through and did a track-by-track comparison, with my original 2001 mp3's and the karmageddon version. It's slightly better, but only slightly. Doesn't sound quite as distorted as my copies, and has bit more bass & "sparkle" to it, but not a dramatic amount. Still, I'm keeping his tracks and ditching my old versions.
    For an honest comparison you should compare to the original SHN files.

    There is a minor loss in dynamics of around 2dB per song, but I imagine most will prefer the 2006 versions as DR10 is still more dynamic than any of DMB's RCA/BMG studio albums.
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    Old 05-05-2014, 12:24 PM   #21
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    The only difference - wasn't the original source of The Lillywhite Sessions mp3? If so, you can't make lossy audio 'loss-less' - you can only polish it up, make it louder, etc.
    It was originally released in mp3, but a shn copy (not a transcode) came out pretty soon thereafter.
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    Chad, If you don't mind me asking... How much did it cost to press tLWS to vinyl? and where did you get it done? It would be cool to get the blu-ray ripped audio of Radio City on vinyl and maybe the FLACHD LT29
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    Well, that's the thing--if it sounds no different to you, it doesn't particularly matter if it's "remastered" or not.

    But I'm not positive if it IS the remastered version...

    Here's what I'm talking about, so someone can confirm for me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omm8aM0TxlY

    I can sort of hear a difference, but I sometimes think I'm imagining it.
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    Chad, If you don't mind me asking... How much did it cost to press tLWS to vinyl? and where did you get it done? It would be cool to get the blu-ray ripped audio of Radio City on vinyl and maybe the FLACHD LT29
    A few hundred dollars for the vinyl itself, and less than 100 to have the sleeves/gatefold made. I had it done by a service in the UK.
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    Anyone know if Karmageddon could do the same for Cigarette Lit? Or if he already has maybe someone could provide a link?
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    A few hundred dollars for the vinyl itself, and less than 100 to have the sleeves/gatefold made. I had it done by a service in the UK.
    Wowzers. Does it sound that much better?
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    Wowzers. Does it sound that much better?
    About the same. I just wanted to own it haha
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    About the same. I just wanted to own it haha
    Well it is rare
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    Well it is rare
    I have #1/1.
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