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Old 03-23-2015, 08:39 PM   #151
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100% of Ants hated this song when it came out now 50% of Ants want to hear it.
I've never hated it. It's not great, but I don't think it's terrible.
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    why are there no horns in Granny? i understand thats how they wrote the song and thats why they are not in it, but why didn't they write any horn lines for Granny?
    I've always wondered this. Also, I think because it doesn't have any horns or violin is the reason why it wasn't the debut single.
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    Should warehouse be played more with the stop intro unsted of UTTAD intro every time? I know they did this in 2012 but none in the past few few years. I think the UTTAD intro is grate but I wish they would mix it up a little bit more. I also think the stop intro works better as an opener than the UTTAD intro.
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    I associate So Right with white cheddar cheez-its because of a strange occurrence in 2013. Whenever I would eat white-cheddar cheez its and be listening to music on shuffle, So Right would come on within the first 5 or so songs. Happened about 10-12 times, and I wouldn't even be expecting it. Now whenever I listen to So Right, I taste white cheddar cheez its in my mouth
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    Old 03-24-2015, 03:26 AM   #155
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    Should warehouse be played more with the stop intro unsted of UTTAD intro every time? I know they did this in 2012 but none in the past few few years. I think the UTTAD intro is grate but I wish they would mix it up a little bit more. I also think the stop intro works better as an opener than the UTTAD intro.

    I'd take it either way to be honest....all I know it needs to be in regular rotation every tour.
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    Old 03-24-2015, 03:26 AM   #156
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    I associate So Right with white cheddar cheez-its because of a strange occurrence in 2013. Whenever I would eat white-cheddar cheez its and be listening to music on shuffle, So Right would come on within the first 5 or so songs. Happened about 10-12 times, and I wouldn't even be expecting it. Now whenever I listen to So Right, I taste white cheddar cheez its in my mouth
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    Old 03-24-2015, 04:43 AM   #157
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    Should warehouse be played more with the stop intro unsted of UTTAD intro every time? I know they did this in 2012 but none in the past few few years. I think the UTTAD intro is grate but I wish they would mix it up a little bit more. I also think the stop intro works better as an opener than the UTTAD intro.
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    Old 03-24-2015, 04:55 AM   #158
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    Should warehouse be played more with the stop intro unsted of UTTAD intro every time? I know they did this in 2012 but none in the past few few years. I think the UTTAD intro is grate but I wish they would mix it up a little bit more. I also think the stop intro works better as an opener than the UTTAD intro.
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    I associate So Right with white cheddar cheez-its because of a strange occurrence in 2013. Whenever I would eat white-cheddar cheez its and be listening to music on shuffle, So Right would come on within the first 5 or so songs. Happened about 10-12 times, and I wouldn't even be expecting it. Now whenever I listen to So Right, I taste white cheddar cheez its in my mouth
    glad to see these 2 took a break from finger painting to post on ants
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    Old 03-24-2015, 06:43 AM   #159
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    glad to see these 2 took a break from finger painting to post on ants
    we're not that bad.

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    Old 03-24-2015, 07:02 AM   #160
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    Right. Because out of all people, you should be questioning maturity levels.
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    Old 03-24-2015, 07:06 AM   #161
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    You five?
    Have you ever had white-cheddar cheez its? That shit's delicious.
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    Old 03-24-2015, 07:29 AM   #162
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    Have you ever had white-cheddar cheez its? That shit's delicious.
    I have, they are damn good.
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    Old 03-24-2015, 11:36 AM   #163
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    i won't make a new thread as this has been discussed numerous times.

    people sometimes complain about how generic festival and international show setlists are, but for the most part, those are the songs those people want to hear.

    i saw garth brooks the other night (fantastic show) and while he played 2 or 3 songs from his newest album that came out last year, the rest of the night was all older stuff. he even said that he knows a lot of people came a long way to see certain songs, so he was going to play those for them. i was familiar with only about half the songs, and of course songs like Friends In Low Places and The Dance were ones i wanted to hear, just like everybody else in the arena that had waited 15 years to see him perform again.

    then i thought about how hard it would be for DMB to do what garth did. Friends and The Dance are like garth's Ants and Crash. DMB has played 2,386 shows, and only 413 had both Ants and Crash. 1,476 shows had one or the other, and 910 shows didn't have either of them. if garth brooks didn't play Friends In Low Places, i would have left as confused and pissed off as i did on 6.4.08 after that Hey Hey My MY > Bitch encore. its a song he HAS to play. but Ants and Crash aren't songs that DMB has play every night because they have so many other songs that are just as popular in a live setting.

    listening to LT10 from Lisbon, the crowd was chanting loudly for #41 and then went crazy at the start of Lie In Our Graves. neither of those were singles, but they are so popular because of the live performances. same with songs like Warehouse and Two Step.

    so i thought about "what if DMB retired for 15 years like garth and then came back, what songs would they play?" they would have to play Ants every show, right? after waiting 15 years, who isn't going to want to hear Ants? or Warehouse? or Crush?


    Don't Drink The Water
    Granny
    Crash Into Me
    What Would You Say
    Lie In Our Graves
    You & Me
    So Much To Say>
    Anyone Seen The Bridge >
    Too Much
    Satellite
    Jimi Thing
    Everyday
    #41
    Dancing Nancies >
    Warehouse
    Crush
    Grey Street
    Tripping Billies
    PNP > Rapunzel
    Two Step
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    Gravedigger (Dave solo)
    All Along The Watchtower
    Ants


    after waiting 15 years, who wouldn't want to hear that set? but if that gets played for everybody, then where do you fit Big Eyed Fish > Bartender, Typical, Rhyme & Reason, BOWA, Say Bye, DIDO, Stay, Pig, Lover Lay Down, So Right, The Stone, Seek Up, Jane, etc?

    for as generic as festival and international sets may be, its kind of amazing that they'd pull out songs like YMDT, Minarets, Spaceman, and One Sweet World because there are so many other songs that are more known that people expect, even if they aren't singles. i would imagine to those crowds, getting a song like Squirm or Seven would be a huge surprise, even if we don't see them as being that special. the band just has to make sure they save room for Crash and Ants.
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    Old 03-24-2015, 11:44 AM   #164
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    I can't even imagine seeing dmb in 15 years
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    @Spoot--you have a good point, but you should factor in that Ants Marching had been around for what, 5 years (?) before Crash was even a song. So the shows played and the shows with both songs stat is a bit skewed

    still, your point holds
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    If I see Dave performing 15 years from now, it better be just D&T. Can't imagine the full band holding together and being worth seeing anymore after another 10.

    Hope I'm wrong though.
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    If I see Dave performing 15 years from now, it better be just D&T. Can't imagine the full band holding together and being worth seeing anymore after another 10.

    Hope I'm wrong though.
    Perhaps just Boyd 15 years from now?


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    Old 03-24-2015, 02:00 PM   #170
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    @Spoot--you have a good point, but you should factor in that Ants Marching had been around for what, 5 years (?) before Crash was even a song. So the shows played and the shows with both songs stat is a bit skewed

    still, your point holds
    true, but thats why i included the shows with one or the other. there were ~1,400 shows that had at least either Ants or Crash, if not both. so that would be like Garth playing Friends In Low Places but not The Dance. and that means there were still over 900 shows where NEITHER of them were played. theres like a 40% chance that if you went to one DMB concert only knowing their 2 most popular songs, you wouldn't hear either of them. thats pretty crazy.



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    If I see Dave performing 15 years from now, it better be just D&T. Can't imagine the full band holding together and being worth seeing anymore after another 10.

    Hope I'm wrong though.
    i was just using the 15 years as as reference point being thats about how long garth brooks was retired for before this comeback tour. DMB could have called it quits 10 years ago and come back 5 years from now, which they would be more than capable of playing in 5 years, and it would be the same effect. ultimately, no matter how long or when the break is, if DMB stopped touring for any long period of time, everybody would be hoping to hear songs like Ants, Warehouse, and Crush, and if you don't get that Say Goodbye, oh well, because they would have played so many other great songs, even if they are the ones we get all the time now and could take or leave because we've seen them so many times. that 28th Tripping Billies is going to sound a lot more fresh when you haven't seen the band in 10 years.
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    true, but thats why i included the shows with one or the other. there were ~1,400 shows that had at least either Ants or Crash, if not both. so that would be like Garth playing Friends In Low Places but not The Dance. and that means there were still over 900 shows where NEITHER of them were played. theres like a 40% chance that if you went to one DMB concert only knowing their 2 most popular songs, you wouldn't hear either of them. thats pretty crazy.





    i was just using the 15 years as as reference point being thats about how long garth brooks was retired for before this comeback tour. DMB could have called it quits 10 years ago and come back 5 years from now, which they would be more than capable of playing in 5 years, and it would be the same effect. ultimately, no matter how long or when the break is, if DMB stopped touring for any long period of time, everybody would be hoping to hear songs like Ants, Warehouse, and Crush, and if you don't get that Say Goodbye, oh well, because they would have played so many other great songs, even if they are the ones we get all the time now and could take or leave because we've seen them so many times. that 28th Tripping Billies is going to sound a lot more fresh when you haven't seen the band in 10 years.

    Those are all good points

    Let's not forget, though, that a lot of DMB's shows (especially in the 90's and early 00's) are a part of a multi-night stand. Which would also add to the number of shows without 1 or both of those hit songs.

    And the 15 year hiatus is the key here. DMB never really stopped touring so the lack of big hits at shows is easier to swallow (and in some cases, preferred)
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    Those are all good points

    Let's not forget, though, that a lot of DMB's shows (especially in the 90's and early 00's) are a part of a multi-night stand. Which would also add to the number of shows without 1 or both of those hit songs.

    And the 15 year hiatus is the key here. DMB never really stopped touring so the lack of big hits at shows is easier to swallow (and in some cases, preferred)

    it was only starting in like 2010 that they stopped repeating songs during 2 night stands, and the caravans were really what got rid of the repeats. not that they repeated a ton of songs, but 3-5 songs from night 1 would typically show up during n2. oddly, it wouldn't be songs like Two Step and Ants, it would be songs like cornbread, shake me, YMDT, and Bayou. so there were probably some 2 night stands where you saw cornbread twice and not get ants or crash at all.

    also, garth brooks played 9 shows here in denver, and i would guess Friends and Dance were played at all 9. its highly unlikely that i just happened to be at the show where he played his 2 most popular songs and the song that is most requested by fans (Thunder Rolls). theres a 99% chances that all 3 were played all 9 shows.


    and ya, the hiatus is key. touring every year makes us want to see as many different songs as possible because playing the same set every show of every year would grow old quickly. but if we didn't see them at all for 10 years, we wouldn't really care what we heard when we finally saw them again. not saying that we'd be fine with Can't Stop > Seven > Shake Me, but getting Bartender instead of Lie In Our Graves is pretty much a wash.
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    These days I find my self comparing dmb now to like dmb in 2006 or even some of dmb from 2007 and 2008. But back then I would find my self comparing dmb to 1998. Crazy how time slips by.
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    When I reference 2007 I mean like alpine vally 2007 most of the other part of the tour is shit. Also I try hard to compare dmb now to 2003-2004 dmb but it doesn't come close to working.
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    I associate So Right with white cheddar cheez-its because of a strange occurrence in 2013. Whenever I would eat white-cheddar cheez its and be listening to music on shuffle, So Right would come on within the first 5 or so songs. Happened about 10-12 times, and I wouldn't even be expecting it. Now whenever I listen to So Right, I taste white cheddar cheez its in my mouth
    white cheddar is a good cheez-it flavor
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    Old 03-29-2015, 01:22 AM   #176
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    just listened to LT12 and a couple comments about that Watchtower closer.

    1) what the fuck is with that cat? what the hell is a cat doing inside this place?

    2) for all the shit people give Rashawn about how he squeals and tries to go as high as possible, and Jeff for being too chaotic and not smooth like Roi was, listen to Saint Roi at the end of this watchtower. its amazing to me how biased people are, that everything was better in the 90s and Roi never did wrong and was so much better than Jeff and Rashawn. bull. fucking. shit.
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    just listened to LT12 and a couple comments about that Watchtower closer.

    1) what the fuck is with that cat? what the hell is a cat doing inside this place?

    2) for all the shit people give Rashawn about how he squeals and tries to go as high as possible, and Jeff for being too chaotic and not smooth like Roi was, listen to Saint Roi at the end of this watchtower. its amazing to me how biased people are, that everything was better in the 90s and Roi never did wrong and was so much better than Jeff and Rashawn. bull. fucking. shit.
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    just listened to LT12 and a couple comments about that Watchtower closer.

    1) what the fuck is with that cat? what the hell is a cat doing inside this place?

    2) for all the shit people give Rashawn about how he squeals and tries to go as high as possible, and Jeff for being too chaotic and not smooth like Roi was, listen to Saint Roi at the end of this watchtower. its amazing to me how biased people are, that everything was better in the 90s and Roi never did wrong and was so much better than Jeff and Rashawn. bull. fucking. shit.
    Through the mid-90's, Roi had moments like that. And it's true . . . the things that frustrate me about Jeff's sax style aren't far from Roi's squeals you hear in the LT12 Watchtower or, for that matter, Lie in our Graves from RR95 (4:55-5:05 in the song - just a weird ten seconds).

    For the most part, though, Roi was kind of a minimalist. He played the right notes at the right time, and saved those crazy sax bursts for the big moments in a song like #41.
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    Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need its own thread

    from 1998-2001 dmb played many shows in huge football stadiums and we only have one dvd release from that time period. This is such a shame. From looking at the tapes from some of these stadium shows it looks like they were doing extra filming. Does anybody know if they were filming? And if so why the hell has management only released one show from all those stadium shows?

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    Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need its own thread

    Aren't there two? Listener Supported & Folsom Field?
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