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Old 03-11-2019, 12:10 PM   #135301
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Sounds like socialism:

.@realDonaldTrump made history by including a national paid family leave proposal in a presidential budget. This investment in affordable childcare that @IvankaTrump has led on builds on successes like doubling the child tax credit. More results for working families!
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    Our socialist president.

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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:14 PM   #135303
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    That's the reason why shotty didn't vote for trump.

    Now that trump has seen the light he is a great president.
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:18 PM   #135304
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    First Trump said he said Tim Cook Apple now he is saying he just mashed his first name and the company together. LOL.
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    I love the new strategy to combat the fear of real socialist policies being proposed by the left: start calling everything socialist

    After all, if we already have it, what’s a lot more??
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:20 PM   #135306
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    I love the new strategy to combat the fear of real socialist policies being proposed by the left: start calling everything socialist

    After all, if we already have it, what’s a lot more??
    Not new from my observation. Republicans have been called out for decades for their disingenuous socialism fear mongering.
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:21 PM   #135307
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    Nothing says I am not a socialist like proposing a $4.7 trillion dollar budget, amirite?

    Trump Proposes a Record $4.75 Trillion Budget
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/u...mp-budget.html
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:22 PM   #135308
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    Not new from my observation. Republicans have been called out for decades for their disingenuous socialism fear mongering.
    How can you call it disingenuous with warren and Bernie as two candidates?
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:22 PM   #135309
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    I love the new strategy to combat the fear of real socialist policies being proposed by the left: start calling everything socialist
    Yeah, medicare isn't socialism or socialized medicine is it? Didn't Reagan warn against medicare?

    Didn't Trump say he would give everyone healthcare and for far less the cost? Doesn't sound like socialism to me.
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    https://twitter.com/IEA/status/1105151675751374855

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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:26 PM   #135311
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    Yeah, medicare isn't socialism or socialized medicine is it? Didn't Reagan warn against medicare?

    Didn't Trump say he would give everyone healthcare and for far less the cost? Doesn't sound like socialism to me.
    Neither of those are socialism no matter how much you want to say their are. You’re not very good with the isms I think maybe.
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:27 PM   #135312
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    How can you call it disingenuous with warren and Bernie as two candidates?
    How is it not disingenuous? They pretend that candidates like the ones you cite want to turn the US into Venezuela with a straight face. It's comically absurd.
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    Neither of those are socialism no matter how much you want to say their are. You’re not very good with the isms I think maybe.
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:30 PM   #135314
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    Here is Reagan doing a 10 minute bit warning about the dangers of socialized medicine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iShCXx_xZDQ
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    This is really a giant nothing burger, but it's funny because it does show that Trump is the fucking snowflakiest human being on earth...

    Nobody with actual self-esteem would bother to defend this, let alone make up some bullshit lie to defend it

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    Tim (saidveryquickyqndquietly Cook) Apple is a nothing burger. And I can’t even get a stir down low because of the thousand and one different things he’s done or said that are moronic.

    I long for the good old days.
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    How is it not disingenuous? They pretend that candidates like the ones you cite want to turn the US into Venezuela with a straight face. It's comically absurd.


    Trying to somehow blame the left when all theyre doing is mocking the absurd, wildly inaccurate and over use of the term by the right is one hell of a take.
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:30 PM   #135317
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    How is it not disingenuous? They pretend that candidates like the ones you cite want to turn the US into Venezuela with a straight face. It's comically absurd.
    I’ve never heard talk of a dictator and perhaps you are quoting the far right and attributing that to the middle, but that said, I think the jury is still out as to how far Liz and Bernie want to go.
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:34 PM   #135318
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    "Taking care of everyone's health care is a horrible idea. Socialist nonsense. You know what would be better? A system where we pay exorbitantly if you can afford it and even then there's still guarantee you're covered. Can't believe you don't see how that's way better."
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    Sounds like socialism.

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    Before he was sworn in, President Trump made a bold promise: The as-yet-unreleased Obamacare repeal and replacement plan would have “insurance for everybody.”

    “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”
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    "Taking care of everyone's health care is a horrible idea. Socialist nonsense. You know what would be better? A system where we pay exorbitantly if you can afford it and even then there's still guarantee you're covered. Can't believe you don't see how that's way better."
    Remember that right now so many people who probably would be denied coverage but have it because they get it through their employer. Those plans cannot discriminate because of pre-existing conditions.
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    Its almost like people took the word and voted for a guy completely talking out of his ass, with no actual knowledge of literally anything, filled with nothing but completely unrealistic promises.
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:47 PM   #135322
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    Too much confusing of government programs and services with socialism.

    We decide through our representatives what services we want the government to provide and how to pay for them. This is hardly socialist.

    Is our military socialist? Public education? Police and prisons? Parks, roads, bridges, airports?

    Of course not. Neither is SS or medicare.
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    Old 03-11-2019, 12:48 PM   #135323
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    Too much confusing of government programs and services with socialism.

    We decide through our representatives what services we want the government to provide and how to pay for them. This is hardly socialist.

    Is our military socialist? Public education? Police and prisons? Parks, roads, bridges, airports?

    Of course not. Neither is SS or medicare.
    Oh god. YES ALL OF THOSE ARE SOCIALISM IN SOME FORM.

    How do you Sweden gets it's socialism, it's dropped from the sky or via Amazon Prime?

    Am I being trolled?
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    I’ve never heard talk of a dictator and perhaps you are quoting the far right and attributing that to the middle, but that said, I think the jury is still out as to how far Liz and Bernie want to go.
    Not the far right, mainstream right. This is from the official twitter account of the Republican National Committee.

    https://twitter.com/gop/status/10547...621376?lang=en

    The video blatantly misrepresent Dem positions and then goes on to associate their visions for America with Cuba and Venezuela, as opposed to Canada or one of several Scandinavian countries.
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    Oh god. YES ALL OF THOSE ARE SOCIALISM IN SOME FORM.

    How do you Sweden gets it's socialism, it's dropped from the sky or via Amazon Prime?

    Am I being trolled?
    You are so weird, and so wrong.

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    Not the far right, mainstream right. This is from the official twitter account of the Republican National Committee.

    https://twitter.com/gop/status/10547...621376?lang=en

    The video blatantly misrepresent Dem positions and then goes on to associate their visions for America with Cuba and Venezuela, as opposed to Canada or one of several Scandinavian countries.
    Well, that doesn’t surprise me. Both RNC and DNC seem to advocate for more extreme positions than most elected officials do.
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    Too much confusing of government programs and services with socialism.

    We decide through our representatives what services we want the government to provide and how to pay for them. This is hardly socialist.

    Is our military socialist? Public education? Police and prisons? Parks, roads, bridges, airports?

    Of course not. Neither is SS or medicare.
    Policies can lean towards socialism in terms of their placement on the economic spectrum without a country being full blown socialist.

    Would you consider SS or medicare capitalistic, then?
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    Trump’s Epic History of Coddling, Promoting and Refusing to Denounce Anti-Semitism
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    4/19/2016: Trump again retweets white supremacist anti-Semitic Twitter account.

    7/2/2016: Trump tweets out anti-Semitic meme attacking Hillary Clinton with Star of David over a sea of dollars. White House later claims Star of David was a Sheriff’s badge. The meme originated on 8chan/pol, a Reddit-like message board known for neo-Nazis and anti-Semites.
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    Yeah, Drakan is right. All of those are programs run on some level of socialism.

    Which is fine! If it serves a public benefit, do that!

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    Policies can lean towards socialism in terms of their placement on the economic spectrum without a country being full blown socialist.

    Would you consider SS or medicare capitalistic, then?
    Democratic, since we vote for our leaders and they control these things.
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