Will dmb leave a legacy like Grateful Dead?

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by hmich176

Good comparison! It's accurate.

Dave got married; Junior Griffey went to Cincy.

Was thinking more like Griffey got hurt and Dave forgot how to write.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by sleepoutside86

Do you know when eligibility starts? Chili Peppers inducted '13 and Green Day this year. Feel like they started around 1990 as well and are still active bands

RHCP's first album was in like 1985.

[BotheLaneFan]

Most people don't know who Phish are. Frankly, a lot of people my age don't know who The Dead are.

DMB will probably have a legacy comparable to like Talking Heads or RHCP. Future generations will look fondly on how they came up and how innovative they were in certain respects, but they'll be seen as a third or fourth tier "all time" band. They'll get in their first or second year into the Rock Hall, probably being the band that is second highest on the bill.

[ExistenceNow]

Solid take.


I think they're for sure first year'ers though.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

Solid take.


I think they're for sure first year'ers though.

Everyone thought that about RHCP, too, and it took them a few years.

[Cincy_]

Originally Posted by hmich176

Good comparison! It's accurate.

Dave got married; Junior Griffey went to Cincy.

If I am not mistaken Griffey is still collecting a paycheck from the Reds which was part of his coming here they structured his deal real long term.
Dave will be collecting long term as well. Griffey caused a lot of sellouts here in Cincy and Dave has sold out the last few years here as well.

Just hope he doesn't end like Griffey....

[ExistenceNow]

Isn't Kiedis like a world class douche, like even by douche bag rock star standards?


Maybe I made that up. Or maybe it was the press sticking it to him

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by Cincy_

If I am not mistaken Griffey is still collecting a paycheck from the Reds which was part of his coming here they structured his deal real long term.
Dave will be collecting long term as well. Griffey caused a lot of sellouts here in Cincy and Dave has sold out the last few years here as well.

Just hope he doesn't end like Griffey....

I grew up a hudge Griffey fan. When I was young like 4 years old and I was first getting into sports I had a bunch of Mariners gear/ Griffey gear due to my brother that is 10 years older than me being a hudge fan. Griffey made baseball or t ball my favorite sport at that time.

I don't know what this has to do with the conversation but Griffey was frigen amazing and was one of the few clean baseball superstars of that era.

[ExistenceNow]

Griffey had the sweetest swing in the history of the game. Made the hardest thing in all of sports look utterly effortless.

[daveshookme]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

Griffey had the sweetest swing in the history of the game. Made the hardest thing in all of sports look utterly effortless.

Girffey's swing is the BTCS of sports. Wow. Never thought I'd see that analogy, but it's strangely accurate. Griffey's swing is something to be studied, analyzed and replicated. one of those "if you can do that, you're on top of the game" things. BTCS is that to music. Simply beautiful, meaningful music. Flawless.

[BotheLaneFan]

Bonds' was better. Bonds was probably better in just about every way, except at being likable.

Also, Kiedis is a douche but no more than any other front man.

[bartender_man]

Originally Posted by dthree

I'm not even a huge fan of phish but this is laughable.

If we are talking DMB pre 2001, then it's correct.

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by bartender_man

If we are talking DMB pre 2001, then it's correct.

I would say pre 2005 with 2001 being the weakest year.

[AJF_41]

Originally Posted by jsp2014

DMB has unfortunately followed the Ken Griffey, Jr. career path.

Originally Posted by Carpenter41

I don't really care about their legacy. They're great to me and that's all that matters.

[salrx95]

Originally Posted by BotheBradyFan

Most people don't know who Phish are. Frankly, a lot of people my age don't know who The Dead are.

DMB will probably have a legacy comparable to like Talking Heads or RHCP. Future generations will look fondly on how they came up and how innovative they were in certain respects, but they'll be seen as a third or fourth tier "all time" band. They'll get in their first or second year into the Rock Hall, probably being the band that is second highest on the bill.

I think this is a pretty solid take on DMB into the Hall.

I barely know who Phish are and only because of being on these boards a long time. They only song I can name is Waste and not by sound. It is because I know Dave played it once. I know the Dead a little bit more but have never been a huge fan. I went to High School across from the Nassau Coliseum and remember clearly when they would come thru during their tour because all those hippie VW vans, etc would be parked around the area for days.

[moccasin]

DMB is a band that has a passionate following, has sold a lot of tickets, and had successful album sales...Many other bands have done this too.

The Dead are a band who were part of decades long counter cultural movement that not only changed music, but society as well.

Having been fortunate enough to be born in the 60's and see the Dead a few times in the 70's, I can assure you that although DMB is a great band; they're not
even close to the impact the Dead had on music and society.

[Useliteski]

absolutely not. but like others have been saying. thats totally okay.

[JimiThing1234]

interesting topic. I was just thinking the other day of the evolution of jam bands:

Dead ---> Phish ---> DMB

[AJF_41]

from a musical standpoint there is almost no comparison between phish and dmb

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

Not sure the culture that DMB embodies will be looked upon with nostalgia in 20 years.

I think it's safe to say many do not look upon them fondly already. Look at the AV Club reviews for the UTTAD vinyl last year.

[onetwothree]

No! The dead started the whole thing, phish is the closet thing to them. Dmb is good but will never come close!

[joeyray34]

Originally Posted by jsp2014

DMB has unfortunately followed the Ken Griffey, Jr. career path.

Btcs is their 1989 upper deck

[joeyray34]

Originally Posted by daveshookme

Girffey's swing is the BTCS of sports. Wow. Never thought I'd see that analogy, but it's strangely accurate. Griffey's swing is something to be studied, analyzed and replicated. one of those "if you can do that, you're on top of the game" things. BTCS is that to music. Simply beautiful, meaningful music. Flawless.

And just read this. Glad someone else saw same analogy also

[Dramageek]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

they do.

most people either love DMB, or make fun of the people who love DMB. the dead don't have those people. phish too.

Eh, I'm sure there are plenty of people who make fun of Deadheads as being "dirty hippies" or some such nonsense.

Regardless, The Grateful Dead were the first through the wall in many respects when it comes to their type of live show, people following them around all over the country, people taping their shows. If anything, Phish carried that mantle more than DMB.

DMB will have a legacy of being very successful, but won't be seen as the trailblazers or have the same place in pop culture mythology than the Dead. And that's really ok.

[Dramageek]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

I think it's safe to say many do not look upon them fondly already. Look at the AV Club reviews for the UTTAD vinyl last year.

I love The AV Club, but to hell with them on that one. The Atlantic had a more favorable article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertain...-at-20/380806/

Besides, plenty of music critics didn't like the Dead's music, either.

[Tomriddle]

Originally Posted by Dramageek

Besides, plenty of music critics didn't like the Dead's music, either.

Who the fuck are "music critics" anyhow?

Originally Posted by JimiThing1234

interesting topic. I was just thinking the other day of the evolution of jam bands:

Dead ---> Phish ---> DMB

DMB has no place on this list... they just don't make that kind of music. They just don't, sorry.

[JimSweetWorld]

Originally Posted by JimiThing1234

interesting topic. I was just thinking the other day of the evolution of jam bands:

Dead ---> Phish ---> DMB

I would not consider this the evolution of jambands. I mean, Phish pretty much took charge of the scene after the Dead, but DMB did not 'evolve' from phish whatsoever. Not to mention there are other huge jambands out there. You have to mention Widepsread Panic, Allman Brothers, Acquarium Rescue Unit, Blues Traveler, etc. in the post-dead scene.

[Tomriddle]

Originally Posted by JimSweetWorld

I would not consider this the evolution of jambands. I mean, Phish pretty much took charge of the scene after the Dead, but DMB did not 'evolve' from phish whatsoever. Not to mention there are other huge jambands out there. You have to mention Widepsread Panic, Allman Brothers, Acquarium Rescue Unit, Blues Traveler, etc. in the post-dead scene.

Honestly, you could probably go ahead and not mention these guys

[tyler3440]

Honestly I think dmb musically being not like the dead
makes them more like the dead If you know what I mean

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by Tomriddle

DMB has no place on this list... they just don't make that kind of music. They just don't, sorry.

Originally Posted by Tomriddle

Honestly, you could probably go ahead and not mention these guys

agreeing w my pal tomriddle itt