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Old 09-21-2020, 01:15 PM   #279091
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I'm married, so I'm very aware of this fact. That said, how are those bathrooms set up if they're not single occupancy? Are the stalls completely closed off?
Yeah, the only one I've been in that was more than single occupancy and mixed used was all stalls, like a women's room

And the sinks were a common area as well
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    So let me ask this to make sure I understand:

    Say my wife is shopping at Wal-Mart and she has to piss. Currently, they have separate, multiple occupancy (I guess that’s what it’s called?) bathrooms for men and women. What does it look like exactly if it’a not gender specific?

    Also, do you support legislation mandating this?
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    How bout the default for society and private businesses is separate bathrooms but no one puts up a stink (lol) on who uses what bathroom?

    Jesus fucking christ. 99.99% of the time it's going to be totally fine for even the most transphobic person.
    So I work in a small/medium sized volume restaurant that has two single occupancy bathrooms that are gendered. They are constantly occupied. We always tell people when there's a wait for one of the bathrooms that it's fine to use the other...just make sure it's properly locked. I can't count how many looks or comments of disgust I've heard from people who are told they can use the opposite bathroom or see someone from the opposite gender coming out of a bathroom.

    Fucking deal with it you Puritan-descendent prudes.
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    Obviously before we ever got to legislating universal bathrooms we need to re-design our stalls to provide more privacy like every other civilized nation has done for eons.
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    Best bathroom situation I've been in were stalls that were private rooms, like with doors and walls, not partitions, and a central communal sink. Classy bar in Manhattan.
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    Yeah, the only one I've been in that were more than single occupancy and mixed used were all stalls, like a women's room

    And the sinks were a common area as well
    My question is are the stalls completely closed off though? Most stalls are pretty open in men's and women's rooms, one of the worst parts of American public restrooms, and I'm curious how people feel comfortable sharing a toilet in that situation. Personally, I don't care, I used to live in a gross frat house and can poop just about anywhere but I'm curious how this works in non single occupancy restrooms.
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    Yeah, the only one I've been in that was more than single occupancy and mixed used was all stalls, like a women's room

    And the sinks were a common area as well
    If the stalls go all the way down how will people know who is tapping their foot?
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    Old 09-21-2020, 01:21 PM   #279098
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    Best bathroom situation I've been in were stalls that were private rooms, like with doors and walls, not partitions, and a central communal sink. Classy bar in Manhattan.
    Now this is what I'm talking about!
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    Old 09-21-2020, 01:22 PM   #279099
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    Obviously before we ever got to legislating universal bathrooms we need to re-design our stalls to provide more privacy like every other civilized nation has done for eons.


    First time I went to the loo in England, I was like why do we not do this everywhere?
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    My question is are the stalls completely closed off though? Most stalls are pretty open in men's and women's rooms, one of the worst parts of American public restrooms, and I'm curious how people feel comfortable sharing a toilet in that situation. Personally, I don't care, I used to live in a gross frat house and can poop just about anywhere but I'm curious how this works in non single occupancy restrooms.
    In the place where I was, yes

    Similar to mYeAgZ55's experience, it was a bar in San Francisco

    The place was a speakeasy during Prohibition and is now a bar/concert venue
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    I'm also fairly convinced that there's a darkhorse money group out there keeping our bathrooms divided because women don't want men to see how absolutely disgusting their habits are in the bathroom.

    Used to work at a bar in State College, sure, there's pee on the floor in men's bathrooms at the end of the night. Get it with a mop. The women's room was diabolical. I mean really a portal into hell.
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    I'm also fairly convinced that there's a darkhorse money group out there keeping our bathrooms divided because women don't want men to see how absolutely disgusting their habits are in the bathroom.

    Used to work at a bar in State College, sure, there's pee on the floor in men's bathrooms at the end of the night. Get it with a mop. The women's room was diabolical. I mean really a portal into hell.
    I too have heard this rumor.
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    In the place where I was, yes

    Similar to mYeAgZ55's experience, it was a bar in San Francisco

    The place was a speakeasy during Prohibition and is now a bar/concert venue
    If this is the case then I can't see why anyone would have an issue with that.
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    Damn you, Charles Koch! Keeping our restroom floors covered in pee! *shaking fist*
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    I don't see how gender integration is any different than racial. We live in a country where 8,000 F-bombs iterated and heads blown off in a movie is equivalent to showing a woman's nipple, women's pay is disproportionate to men, we have the 14th highest rape rate per capita, women have to wait longer in bathroom lines, etc.

    Let's start treating each other as equals. Bathrooms included.

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    I don't see how gender integration is any different than racial. We live in a country where 8,000 F-bombs iterated and heads blown off in a movie is equivalent to showing a woman's nipple, women's pay is disproportionate to men, we have the 14th highest rape rate per capita, women have to wait longer in bathroom lines, etc.

    Let's start treating each other as equals. Bathrooms included.
    There's a pretty simple reason for this...

    I'm all for equality under the law, but the idea that men and women are exactly the same and exhibit the same behaviors for the same reasons is either ignorant or a delusion.
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    Women and men having separate bathrooms is not the same as having different bathrooms for blacks and whites.

    Jesus christ.
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    There's a pretty simple reason for this...

    I'm all for equality under the law, but the idea that men and women are exactly the same and exhibit the same behaviors for the same reasons is either ignorant or a delusion.
    I understand the reason. Why should women have to wait longer because of anatomy? If you make it universal...everyone waits the same.
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    I understand the reason. Why should women have to wait longer because of anatomy? If you make it universal...everyone waits the same.
    Let me ask you this, if the issue was inverted and men had to wait longer for the bathroom than women:

    a) Would we even be talking about this?

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    b) There is no way in hell it would be changed and make the wait for women longer.
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    Women and men having separate bathrooms is not the same as having different bathrooms for blacks and whites.

    Jesus christ.
    My point wasn't that the reason they're segregated is the same...more so that segregation isn't healthy.
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    Let me ask you this, if the issue was inverted and men had to wait longer for the bathroom than women:

    a) Would we even be talking about this?

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    b) There is no way in hell it would be changed and make the wait for women longer.
    Are you implying that men wouldn't/shouldn't complain if they are disaffected or that women wouldn't champion for a change?
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    Trumpers keep sharing this on FB thinking they are so clever.

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    Are you implying that men wouldn't/shouldn't complain if they are disaffected or that women wouldn't champion for a change?
    To the first bold, they may but they wouldn't be taken seriously.

    To the second, if it incurred a negative consequence for them then likely not. You'd hear the cookie cutter "patriarchy, oppression" narrative come out.

    EDIT: And to confirm this, if we made it so that abortion could never be taken away with the clause that men could financially opt out it would never pass. Because it would still be seen as a negative for them.
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    I'm married, so I'm very well aware of this fact. That said, how are those bathrooms set up if they're not single occupancy? Are the stalls completely closed off?
    It seems like there's a logistical issue that probably needs to be resolved. Like wouldn't you have to convert restrooms to be able to accommodate both genders more adequately? I know that in many public restrooms there's usually an abundance of urinals, for example, and not nearly as many stalls.
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    It seems like there's a logistical issue that probably needs to be resolved. Like wouldn't you have to convert restrooms to be able to accommodate both genders more adequately? I know that in many public restrooms there's usually an abundance of urinals, for example, and not nearly as many stalls.
    I'd be curious if there was a fiscal reason in terms of maintenance that is behind this. Genuinely do not know.
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    Women and men having separate bathrooms is not the same as having different bathrooms for blacks and whites.

    Jesus christ.
    Attempting to pass legislation to make it a crime of public indecency for using a non-birth-gender restroom IS comparable to whites-only restrooms, though.
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    So I work in a small/medium sized volume restaurant that has two single occupancy bathrooms that are gendered. They are constantly occupied. We always tell people when there's a wait for one of the bathrooms that it's fine to use the other...just make sure it's properly locked. I can't count how many looks or comments of disgust I've heard from people who are told they can use the opposite bathroom or see someone from the opposite gender coming out of a bathroom.

    Fucking deal with it you Puritan-descendent prudes.
    I've been known to use the women's room when it's available and the men's room isn't. Like if I'm the only person in line and can wait, fuck it, I'll wait. But with my gallbladder removed sometimes.... it's either the bushes or the women's room.
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    I've been known to use the women's room when it's available and the men's room isn't. Like if I'm the only person in line and can wait, fuck it, I'll wait. But with my gallbladder removed sometimes.... it's either the bushes or the women's room.
    The staff of a busy restaurant doesn't have time to wait for anyone or care about their stuffiness. When you gotta go, you gotta go.
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