A Game of Thrones (HBO Series)

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

not to mention the jon legitimacy reveal was a shitshow

sam's entire character is based upon--he's The Dude Who Pays Attention. he cured an "incurable" disease by Reading The Instructions

he's gonna overhear the juiciest gossip tidbit that has been revealed to date about his boy and just be like 'yeah that's great gils, could you get me a drink or something? make yourself useful?'

and then steal some books and just peace out? wtf?

Sam has no way of knowing that meant anything, and they showed him in a frustrated state as to where his mind wasnt focused anyway.


And he left because the whole reason he went was really to find an answer about the WW's. The other maesters wont even listen to him and he knows he needs to do something quickly.

I dont like the idea of him just leaving though. Gonna be weird for him to just pop back up at castle black in no time after a 2 season trip to get there.

[clayj41]

The thing that made no sense to me about Sam absconding with scrolls from the Citadel is that he appeared to just pick them at random, like "yep, this looks like the one that holds all the secrets to defeat the army of the dead."

[YouNeverKnow25]

"I can reach these, so they must be the right ones"

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

"I can reach these, so they must be the right ones"

There was one particular instance where he just grabbed the top scroll on a giant pile of scrolls. I get that accessing documents in certain, confidential portions of the library is likely to reveal more helpful information, but there was absolutely no rhyme or reason to picking that one scroll.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by clayj41

There was one particular instance where he just grabbed the top scroll on a giant pile of scrolls. I get that accessing documents in certain, confidential portions of the library is likely to reveal more helpful information, but there was absolutely no rhyme or reason to picking that one scroll.

Eh, it appeared as though he knew what he was looking for, even if there's no way for us as viewers to really be able to discern that he was grabbing something intentionally. It's not like a rolled-up scroll would just have "Killing Wights 101" written on the side of it

[TheLastPig]

yeah that definitely confused me. Im sure they meant to show it as he knew what he was looking for, but him just rummaging on the top shelf of scrolls and grabbing one looked weird.

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Eh, it appeared as though he knew what he was looking for, even if there's no way for us as viewers to really be able to discern that he was grabbing something intentionally. It's not like a rolled-up scroll would just have "Killing Wights 101" written on the side of it

I take no issue with him selecting the actual books that he did, but those of course had labels and titles. The reason he picked that scroll was completely indiscernible.

I'm being nitpicky though. I don't really take any issue with him leaving the Citadel because if this season has taught us anything, it's that it's time for action and not words. While he may not be much of a fighter, there's no point in wasting screen time on him if it revolves around him continually having to cut through red tape.

I'm sure he made some choice selections. Very convenient.

[jamband1]

Yeah I got the feeling that he's the guy in charge of putting the scrolls back when people are done with them, he obviously knows which one is which.

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

I for one do not necessarily think that arya being a little bit miffed/icy with sansa is out of her character in the slightest. wasn't the last time (or one of the last times) they were in the same room together before meeting back up at winterfell, the scene were sansa lies for joffrey, meaning the murder of arya's friend and sansa's direwolf?

There was a bit of them together in KL after that, but, yeah, they haven't seen each other since season 1.

Originally Posted by smokew11

Davos going from Dragonstone to KL to Eastwatch like http://www.globalpersonals.co.uk/wp-...spaceballs.jpg

Seriously.

I'm not as concerned about characters taking time to travel places, but considering the ways in which previous episodes/books took time to have deliberate, realistically slow journeys, this season has really sped things up in a way that's jarring.

[M. Steng]

Random, but I just was clicking through some listicle about GOT cast members, and the guy who plays the Night King also played Joe Chill in Batman Begins. Though that was pretty ironic

[TheLastStop123]

saw some chatter in here about Jon and him making dumb decisions (leaving Winterfell, now trying to go get a WW), and one of the guys on the ringer podcast mentioned that they think ultimately maybe Jon wants to die. Which I could definitely see that making sense.

[M. Steng]

Also, another random thing, but this YouTube channel has a ton of in-depth explanatory type videos which give a lot of good background history from the show and books:

https://www.youtube.com/user/JaiWbio

Helps give context to a lot of the recent goings on and is just cool to dive into the backstory/history.

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by jamband1

Yeah I got the feeling that he's the guy in charge of putting the scrolls back when people are done with them, he obviously knows which one is which.

My complaint would lie with the Maesters' filing system then. They're not gonna be able to find shit now that Sam is gone.

[smokew11]

Originally Posted by clayj41

My complaint would lie with the Maesters' filing system then. They're not gonna be able to find shit now that Sam is gone.

its no Dewey Decimal System

[YouNeverKnow25]

also lol'ed at gendry's overnight duffel bag being completely ready to go, after 4 years

"didn't even know if it would be you or somebody else, just knew I wanted to leave"


reminded me of: https://c.sceneclip.com/data/clip/Xb...clip.small.gif

[junior94]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

"I can reach these, so they must be the right ones"

Originally Posted by clayj41

There was one particular instance where he just grabbed the top scroll on a giant pile of scrolls. I get that accessing documents in certain, confidential portions of the library is likely to reveal more helpful information, but there was absolutely no rhyme or reason to picking that one scroll.

a little thiiiiiing called DESTINY, ma friend

[junior94]

Originally Posted by clayj41

My complaint would lie with the Maesters' filing system then. They're not gonna be able to find shit now that Sam is gone.

did you not see the premiere? They've got plenty of shit there and will have little trouble finding it.

womp womp

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by junior94

did you not see the premiere? They've got plenty of shit there and will have little trouble finding it.

womp womp

They lost their best shit shoveler, surgeon, and scroll filer in one fell swoop. Lord (of Light) help them.

[CrashDMB237]

Anyone have a functioning link for this weeks episode? PM would be appreciated...

[Roose13]

Actually DLed the episode and we're gonna watch it tonight since we plan on being in Philly for a SummerSlam party.

[JTRocks]

Just a warning to anyone that's planning on waiting until Sunday night...

I browse youtube fairly regularly and really dont even watch that much game of thrones stuff, but already tonight as I've been browsing I've seen videos that are essentially clips from the leaked episode. And the titles of these clips have already given away a couple things for me. Nothing major, but I guess this means I even have to avoid going on youtube until sunday now. Just wanted to let anyone else know so they dont stumble on it like myself

[smokew11]

its kind of annoying these episodes are leaking tbh. I love Sunday nights for GoT but I have no will power

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by Roose13

Actually DLed the episode and we're gonna watch it tonight since we plan on being in Philly for a SummerSlam party.

Omg this fucking episode!

[smokew11]

Originally Posted by Roose13

Omg this fucking episode!

right? Joffrey coming back as a WW...and who knew Cersei had a penis?

[GSUdawg521]

I'm only 5 or so episodes through my rewatch but man it was like a different show. I know it's been a pretty long time and everything about the show and the people who make it evolve. But characters just seem so different, filming and set design so different.

I love rewatching it now that I know, for the most part, about all the people and places they're referring to.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by JTRocks

Just a warning to anyone that's planning on waiting until Sunday night...

I browse youtube fairly regularly and really dont even watch that much game of thrones stuff, but already tonight as I've been browsing I've seen videos that are essentially clips from the leaked episode. And the titles of these clips have already given away a couple things for me. Nothing major, but I guess this means I even have to avoid going on youtube until sunday now. Just wanted to let anyone else know so they dont stumble on it like myself

I got spoiled by something (I think) pretty major just scrolling twitter, a guy posted a screenshot from the episode

gotta be careful before sunday

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by GSUdawg521

I'm only 5 or so episodes through my rewatch but man it was like a different show. I know it's been a pretty long time and everything about the show and the people who make it evolve. But characters just seem so different, filming and set design so different.

I love rewatching it now that I know, for the most part, about all the people and places they're referring to.

it's an awesome show to rewatch episodes here and there of, cause you can understand how well / poorly characters' decisions work out down the road

you also get scenes where there are four people talking and all four are dead by now

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

it's an awesome show to rewatch episodes here and there of, cause you can understand how well / poorly characters' decisions work out down the road

you also get scenes where there are four people talking and all four are dead by now

Further to this point, it's pretty crazy to think about how much Caitlyn Stark's decision to arrest Tyrion impacted the entire story going forward. Can tie back so many different ripples to that one decision, it's great storytelling by GRRM.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Further to this point, it's pretty crazy to think about how much Caitlyn Stark's decision to arrest Tyrion impacted the entire story going forward. Can tie back so many different ripples to that one decision, it's great storytelling by GRRM.

exactly, good example. that decision, at the same time basically as several others, spiral entirely out of control over a few seasons

also directly leads to one of my favorite moments of the book and show, when bronn decides "fuck it" and stands for tyrion

[YouNeverKnow25]

cat arresting tyrion is pretty universally accepted to be the true starting point of the war of the five kings, correct?