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Old 05-23-2019, 04:45 PM   #149821
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A modern day teapot dome scandal.
I don't remember all the details from the teapot dome scandal, but I'm sure JMC will be along shortly to fill us in.
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    Nobody went to college before Obama told them to go
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    Old 05-23-2019, 04:46 PM   #149823
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    Normalizing the President doing this isn't good. This isn't BAU from the President.
    Sure it is. Has been for decades.

    I mean, maybe it's controversial because the construction job being discussed is controversial but this is why there are lobbyists. If lobbyists didn't pay dividends companies wouldn't spend billions each year lobbying candidates from both sides.

    Honestly, sometimes I wonder what world some of you think you actually live in.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 04:46 PM   #149824
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    This is just BAU in politics in this country. Out of ALL the things to discuss, something like this barely hits the RADAR anymore.

    The entire CPS board just resigned so the the new mayor can move her donors in...BAU.
    Ok. Name the last time this was done with the president.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 04:48 PM   #149825
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    Sure it is. Has been for decades.
    Source on that?
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    Old 05-23-2019, 04:53 PM   #149826
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    Source on that?
    Being alive.

    But seriously, it's been (bad) this way for at least three to four decades. Maybe not as bad prior to the 70s'.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 04:53 PM   #149827
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    Being alive.

    But seriously, it's been (bad) this way for at least three to four decades. Maybe not as bad prior to the 70s'.
    But seriously, back up your claim.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 04:55 PM   #149828
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    Here's a link to lobbyist spending since 1998. While it doesn't 100% prove my point, it's a pretty good guide for it, IMO.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ing-in-the-us/
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    Old 05-23-2019, 04:56 PM   #149829
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    But seriously, back up your claim.
    It's kind of hard to prove that politicians are corrupt when very few of them are charged with corruption.

    That said, I stand by the idea that entities don't spend money on lobbying without the expecation of returns and the amount of money spent on lobbying has almost tripled in the past 30 years.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 05:00 PM   #149830
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    The defeatist attitude by shotty and Roger is just depressing. That there isn't anything we can do and that we shouldn't hold any politician to any standard is just the way it should be.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 05:03 PM   #149831
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    Why Memaw is so good at infuriating Pepaw

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    On Wednesday, for the third time in barely six months, a meeting between the president, the speaker and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer blew up in spectacular fashion.

    And in each case, Trump handed Pelosi a huge gift, a priceless moment that helped unify the Democratic Caucus behind her at a crucial time.

    “She’s smarter than him, and she’s tougher than him, and I think that bothers him,” said Rep. Dan Kildee (D-Mich.), a Pelosi ally. “It's hard to get inside that head of his and figure out what drives him, other than an oversized ego and an undersized sense of ethics.”

    Trump doesn’t have a condescending nickname for the speaker as he does for other Democrats. He even appears to have a grudging respect for Pelosi, the first woman to serve as House speaker. He treats her as a peer who commands her chamber with a firm hand, and he knows she can deliver on votes, and that she is willing to call any bluff at any time.

    "It's a disaster," said a senior Republican who requested anonymity. "It plays right into her hands."

    “It seems like anytime she strikes a nerve... he freaks out,” said Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.). “I think he realizes the walls are closing in on him."

    “Whether he likes it or not, sequestration is coming roaring back. We have a debt ceiling we’ve got to raise. And we have a budget deal we’ve got to reach. Or we face a real risk,” said Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) “Robust congressional oversight is part of the structure and history of our country. And he’s going to have to answer some questions.”
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    This shit is straight out of a movie making fun of authoritarians.





    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...genius-1342655

    Is this South Park?
    Here’s a video of that: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...300359169?s=21

    My favorite part is the end about how he never says deep state

    The love affair his base has for him is just odd. He lies about EVERYTHING, even things that are obvious. The base doesn’t mind being lied to.

    He’s doing this at an event claiming how great he’s doing for farmers. Could you imagine if another President had to spend billions for losing a trade war? Socialized farming is here, because this war isn’t going to end.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 05:05 PM   #149833
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    Being alive.

    But seriously, it's been (bad) this way for at least three to four decades. Maybe not as bad prior to the 70s'.
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    Here's a link to lobbyist spending since 1998. While it doesn't 100% prove my point, it's a pretty good guide for it, IMO.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ing-in-the-us/
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    It's kind of hard to prove that politicians are corrupt when very few of them are charged with corruption.

    That said, I stand by the idea that entities don't spend money on lobbying without the expecation of returns and the amount of money spent on lobbying has almost tripled in the past 30 years.
    So, to be clear, you do not have evidence of anything similar to the clear case we have here with Trump? Got it
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    Old 05-23-2019, 05:09 PM   #149834
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    So, to be clear, you do not have evidence of anything similar to the clear case we have here with Trump? Got it
    I mean, yeah it's right there in front of you but if you want to act like it doesn't matter, go ahead.

    What you're doing regarding corruption is what you complain about people on the right denying evidence on climate change but hypocrisy in this thread is never in short demand (to be clear).
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    Old 05-23-2019, 05:10 PM   #149835
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    It also implis that you think entities spend money on lobbyists just for shits and giggles. I also posted, prior to this Trump news, the Blaggo has been in prison for a decade for doing the exact same thing every politician does everyday. But, you know, Trump is bad and all.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 05:15 PM   #149836
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    The defeatist attitude by shotty and Roger is just depressing. That there isn't anything we can do and that we shouldn't hold any politician to any standard is just the way it should be.
    It would be refreshing if you held your politicians to the same standard as you do reppublicans. Until then, it's pretty hypocritical of you to call me a defeatist.

    I'm literally waiting on ALL of you for the green light on my more prisons platform. Until then, don't expect sympathy from me when other dumb ideals don't pan out.
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    I literally just posted how the entire CPS board resigned so that the new mayor can move her donors in and there wasn't one reply to that. Please spare me your faux bullshit.
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    It also implis that you think entities spend money on lobbyists just for shits and giggles. I also posted, prior to this Trump news, the Blaggo has been in prison for a decade for doing the exact same thing every politician does everyday. But, you know, Trump is bad and all.
    I made clear the distinction about asking about the President, you said "yup, there's evidence of tons of Presidents doing this as BAU". I asked for evidence of Preaidents operating that way. You provided nothing. You're now talking about Blaggo, who has not been President.

    What are we missing here Rog. You're dancing around the subject and precariously close to dancing right off the edge and into a loss.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 05:45 PM   #149839
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    That’s pretty awesome. Doubt I would have the courage to do that to be honest. Seems like he’s pretty down to earth guy though
    I always thought you would think it was a privilege for him to meet you.
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    I literally just posted how the entire CPS board resigned so that the new mayor can move her donors in and there wasn't one reply to that. Please spare me your faux bullshit.
    I don't know enough about the cps board to comment.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 05:49 PM   #149841
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    Here’s a video of that: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...300359169?s=21

    My favorite part is the end about how he never says deep state

    The love affair his base has for him is just odd. He lies about EVERYTHING, even things that are obvious. The base doesn’t mind being lied to.

    He’s doing this at an event claiming how great he’s doing for farmers. Could you imagine if another President had to spend billions for losing a trade war? Socialized farming is here, because this war isn’t going to end.
    I think the reason his base supports him is because a large number of people live their lives like Trump. Those two jerks getting out of their cars and arguing- bigly Trump fans. That lady screaming at McDonald's that her fries are cold- bigly Trump fan.
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    I'd love an article as to why the resigning is corrupt, Roger. All I saw was pretty matter of fact reporting on it.
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    pour one out for the Krassensteins, suspended from being online for being too online
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    pour one out for the Krassensteins, suspended from being online for being too online


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    Extremely Stable Genius
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    Executive privilege over a report that he says completely exonerated him

    What a joke of a human being.
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    Executive privilege over a report that he says completely exonerated him

    What a joke of a human being.
    Even though you care way too much about your lawn and you probably kill dandelions you are awesome man.
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    Can you feel the corruption?

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    https://chalkbeat.org/posts/chicago/...-school-board/
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    Even though you care way too much about your lawn and you probably kill dandelions you are awesome man.
    I think you’re thinking of my brother beefsteak
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    my 4 yr old walks around saying "thats because I'm a genius". He heard it on a commercial or something. I'm pretty sure that's where Trump came up with it
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