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Old 06-20-2018, 05:51 AM   #1
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2018 Gross & Attendance Figures

It's that time again! So far, only 1 show of the summer tour has been reported. Typically, they wait until sometime at least halfway into the tour and release a bunch of the shows at once, though there are the occasional stragglers like this one.

Brandon, MS- $680,575
7,688 / 7,688

Expect several more to drop in the next few weeks. Also, I looked around, couldn't find any info on the St. Paul show back in February.
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    Awesome.

    I'm really curious about the Texas numbers. Last time they played Austin, the numbers for Woodlands and Dallas (especially Dallas) clearly suffered.
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    just to verify, the amount of $$ is based solely on ticket sales? so doesnt include merch or theirs hare of concessions?
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    I wonder what the breakdown on that would be. How much goes to the venue/DMB Crew/general overheads/Member salaries?
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    I was wondering how much Buddy was getting paid because don't all the band members make the same amount? I know he's not technically a member as of yet, but my guess is that he will become a full time member (which would be great) and they will forego finding a violinist ( which would not be great). They need both imo.
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    Old 06-20-2018, 06:23 AM   #6
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    Sorry did not see this thread
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    I was wondering how much Buddy was getting paid because don't all the band members make the same amount? I know he's not technically a member as of yet, but my guess is that he will become a full time member (which would be great) and they will forego finding a violinist ( which would not be great). They need both imo.
    touring member. not a member. jeff and rashawn do just fine I'm sure but touring members do not make as much as actual members.
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    Old 06-20-2018, 06:57 AM   #8
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    touring member. not a member. jeff and rashawn do just fine I'm sure but touring members do not make as much as actual members.
    Isn't this what led to Butch leaving? He wanted to get paid on par with the full members, band said no, he left. Then that summer they plaid covers of Money and Money.
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    just to verify, the amount of $$ is based solely on ticket sales? so doesnt include merch or theirs hare of concessions?
    almost positive that's just ticket sales, I did the math and the dollar amount comes out to $88.52 per person, on average.
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    I've heard a bunch of rumors about why butch left, that being one. can't speak to the veracity of any of them.
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    I was wondering how much Buddy was getting paid because don't all the band members make the same amount? I know he's not technically a member as of yet, but my guess is that he will become a full time member (which would be great) and they will forego finding a violinist ( which would not be great). They need both imo.
    HA!

    Tim, Rashawn, Butch, and Jeff were in a member/not-a-member status for how long? Granted, Tim's was a different situation (holding to the not going to officially join for the better part of the band's history until he didn't).

    I'd really like to see that spot rotated every tour. Buddy is great, don't get me wrong, but there are so many possibilities.
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    I wonder what the breakdown on that would be. How much goes to the venue/DMB Crew/general overheads/Member salaries?
    That revenue is typically all venue. At this level of touring the band is getting a flat fee for their performance and the venue recoups their costs through ticket sales, show sells poorly? Band still got paid, but venue would likely try to negotiate a lower fee the next time, or not book the group.
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    Old 06-20-2018, 08:11 AM   #13
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    Isn't this what led to Butch leaving? He wanted to get paid on par with the full members, band said no, he left. Then that summer they plaid covers of Money and Money.
    Yeah... that's why he left....
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    Old 06-20-2018, 08:25 AM   #14
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    That revenue is typically all venue. At this level of touring the band is getting a flat fee for their performance and the venue recoups their costs through ticket sales, show sells poorly? Band still got paid, but venue would likely try to negotiate a lower fee the next time, or not book the group.
    I guess that makes sense. I wonder what DMB's flat-rate is then. Half a mil? Looking at the venue revenue that leaves quite a nice bit to the venue for effort.
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    https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/201...00000-per-gig/

    Not entirely sure how accurate this is
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    Isn't this what led to Butch leaving? He wanted to get paid on par with the full members, band said no, he left. Then that summer they plaid covers of Money and Money.
    butch left cause he needed to save his marriage.
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    https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/201...00000-per-gig/

    Not entirely sure how accurate this is
    Some of these rock/pop acts are likely accurate but many of the A-list country acts are way out of line. Recent private corporate event pricing had Florida Georgia Line, Luke Bryan, ZBB, and Eric Church all around $750k.
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    Isn't this what led to Butch leaving? He wanted to get paid on par with the full members, band said no, he left. Then that summer they plaid covers of Money and Money.
    lol nope
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    Old 06-20-2018, 11:56 AM   #19
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    My guess is that DMB play some of these smaller venues during the midweek For a smaller amount, just to have something to fill out the schedule. For example, they probably get a bigger guaranteed fee for playing a place like Hartford than for Brandon MS, but it’s still better to make SOME money than none at all.

    Back in the good old days they used to sell out 2 shows on a Monday and Tuesday in St. Louis, and they didn’t have to mess with these small venues. But obviously things are different now. Many acts touring the same venues as DMB only play shows on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and don’t even bother during the weeknights. That’s why you used to have Camden, Noblesville etc on random weeknights, and not anymore. Supply and demand.
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    I guess that makes sense. I wonder what DMB's flat-rate is then. Half a mil? Looking at the venue revenue that leaves quite a nice bit to the venue for effort.
    Been rumored at $1 Mil, but that was a few years ago. Could be different based on venue, but even if it was a mil for a venue that takes in $800k in tickets, there is still parking, concessions, booze... plenty of other income streams for the venue to cover their costs and make a profit.
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    Been rumored at $1 Mil, but that was a few years ago. Could be different based on venue, but even if it was a mil for a venue that takes in $800k in tickets, there is still parking, concessions, booze... plenty of other income streams for the venue to cover their costs and make a profit.
    I think Dave on his own is $500k
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    If that list is correct and DMB is pulling down $1M per show, while Pearl Jam is only making $350K, it is a damn shame in my book.
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    Old 07-11-2018, 01:25 PM   #23
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    Another one popped up this week;

    Gilford, NH. June 12-13
    15,229 / 16,602
    $1,199,815

    1,400 unsold seats spread across 2 shows... not hateful. Probably looked mostly full to anyone who was there.
    One of these weeks, there will be a whole bunch of them. A likely time is after the summer break begins.
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    touring member. not a member. jeff and rashawn do just fine I'm sure but touring members do not make as much as actual members.
    I would pay jeff his and rashawns share while getting rid of rashawn
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    Dos Equis Pavilion Dallas, Texas 19-May-2018 $893,680 15,613 /
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    Cellairis Amphitheatre at Lakewood Atlanta, Ga. 26-May-2018 $815,459 16,621 /
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    Austin360 Amphitheater Austin, Texas 22-May-2018 $757,859 11,805 /
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    Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion The Woodlands, Texas 18-May-2018 $728,025 13,134 /
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    CMAC Performing Arts Center Canandaigua, N.Y. 26-Jun-2018 $720,830 8,701 /
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    holy crap... CMAC had 6,000 seats go unsold?

    I know a lot of those were probably lawn, but still...
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    Wonder if a violin would impact those numbers? Probably not.
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    Wonder if a violin would impact those numbers? Probably not.


    Jesus Christ. Another thread with this argument. I wish Boyd would come back just so I don’t have to see this fucking argument all over the place.
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    can anyone compare these to 14-16 numbers?
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    Jesus Christ. Another thread with this argument. I wish Boyd would come back just so I don’t have to see this fucking argument all over the place.
    Someone needs to hit the gym and blow off some steam.

    Asking a question is hardly raising an argument.
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