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Old 05-29-2011, 04:24 PM   #1
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Hello all,

I'm a long time fan, been to over 20 concerts, and I am a police officer in A.C. I know that it's going the weekend is going to be pretty chaotic so I figured I would try and help out and post up a thread to help out any out of towners and people who have any other questions regarding the city and the show.

So far I know that they plan on closing Albany Ave. during the concert, but we are unsure exactly how far and if it will be open during certain hours. More than likely there will be massive traffic jams making walking the easiest way to travel. I will update with more information as the weekend gets closer and hopefully help some people avoid problems.

Atlantic City is a dangerous place with robberies taking place during daylight and especially in the evening. I would advise everybody to stay in groups and not go wandering off. I would suggest people travel on Pacific Avenue, Atlantic Avenue, and the Boardwalk until reaching Albany Avenue. Be mindful that directly across from the venue is a normally peaceful and quiet neighborhood. There is a moose lodge there that will be having a BBQ and event one night and there are a couple of smaller sub shops that will most likely be open throughout the weekend.

Parking near the venue is going to be impossible and I'd be hesitant to park on any side streets due to vandalism/ theft from cars. Your safest bet is to park in a casino garage and take a Jitney (small green and white buses costing only $2.50 to go anywhere in the city) to the area of the Hilton and walk up. There may be special shuttles arranging transport but with the road shut down they will most likely be dropping off several blocks away.

The city's taxi drivers have a bad habit of not turning their meter on and charging ridiculous amounts of money to unsuspecting tourists. If they don't turn it on get out. They also charge a $12.00 fee if you make a stop. For example you need to go to an ATM then a bar they'll charge you the initial far, the $12 stop fee, then keep the meter going for a final amount. Unfortunately with all the crime and other problems it's difficult for us to enforce so stick to walking or the Jitneys if you're concerned.

Bader field is located on the other side of they bay on the mainland so anybody staying in the city will have to cross the bridge to reach the venue. I'm unsure if access will be granted to the transport vehicles.

Atlantic City has never experiences an event like this and I am unsure how prepared they are for it so expect confusion and be prepared for unforeseen problems. Please feel free to ask any questions because I want to make it as easy as possible for everybody going to the concert.

More than likely there will be a heavy police presence to facilitate movement and protect the concert goers. I expect they will have most of our department working because of the concert so that should help. For some reason they think bands like DMB and Phish bring a crowd of undesirables who threaten public safety.

At some point I'll add in here some great bars and restaurants that aren't packed and too expensive. Please ask any questions you may have and if I don't know the answer I'll do my best to find out!
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    this is a great help. thank you!
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    No problem!
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    Wow, thanks!
    Here's a question. If I am staying at the Tropicana, how far a walk is it approximately?


    Thanks again for the info and good luck. I for one will be thanking officers for their presence and for helping us out.

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    wow thanks reading this was really helpful at the same a little scary! im a girl and as of now im going to the concert solo .... all my friends bailed on me but im not cancelling cuz this is my summer vaca! how concerned do you think i should be? im just really hoping to meet some people that i can atleast travel to and from the concert with, i think ill be pretty safe one im at the venue. im staying at the irish pub ... and what I was wondering mostly is what is the walk like from there to the boardwalk/casinos if Im coming back at night from those places ? any info/advice would help! i think i need to know how worried I should be !
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    wow thanks reading this was really helpful at the same a little scary! im a girl and as of now im going to the concert solo .... all my friends bailed on me but im not cancelling cuz this is my summer vaca! how concerned do you think i should be? im just really hoping to meet some people that i can atleast travel to and from the concert with, i think ill be pretty safe one im at the venue. im staying at the irish pub ... and what I was wondering mostly is what is the walk like from there to the boardwalk/casinos if Im coming back at night from those places ? any info/advice would help! i think i need to know how worried I should be !
    There are a LOT of Ants that are staying there too; I'm not, but you're more than welcome to PM me if you want to meet up
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    Hello all,

    I'm a long time fan, been to over 20 concerts, and I am a police officer in A.C. I know that it's going the weekend is going to be pretty chaotic so I figured I would try and help out and post up a thread to help out any out of towners and people who have any other questions regarding the city and the show.

    So far I know that they plan on closing Albany Ave. during the concert, but we are unsure exactly how far and if it will be open during certain hours. More than likely there will be massive traffic jams making walking the easiest way to travel. I will update with more information as the weekend gets closer and hopefully help some people avoid problems.

    Atlantic City is a dangerous place with robberies taking place during daylight and especially in the evening. I would advise everybody to stay in groups and not go wandering off. I would suggest people travel on Pacific Avenue, Atlantic Avenue, and the Boardwalk until reaching Albany Avenue. Be mindful that directly across from the venue is a normally peaceful and quiet neighborhood. There is a moose lodge there that will be having a BBQ and event one night and there are a couple of smaller sub shops that will most likely be open throughout the weekend.

    Parking near the venue is going to be impossible and I'd be hesitant to park on any side streets due to vandalism/ theft from cars. Your safest bet is to park in a casino garage and take a Jitney (small green and white buses costing only $2.50 to go anywhere in the city) to the area of the Hilton and walk up. There may be special shuttles arranging transport but with the road shut down they will most likely be dropping off several blocks away.

    The city's taxi drivers have a bad habit of not turning their meter on and charging ridiculous amounts of money to unsuspecting tourists. If they don't turn it on get out. They also charge a $12.00 fee if you make a stop. For example you need to go to an ATM then a bar they'll charge you the initial far, the $12 stop fee, then keep the meter going for a final amount. Unfortunately with all the crime and other problems it's difficult for us to enforce so stick to walking or the Jitneys if you're concerned.

    Bader field is located on the other side of they bay on the mainland so anybody staying in the city will have to cross the bridge to reach the venue. I'm unsure if access will be granted to the transport vehicles.

    Atlantic City has never experiences an event like this and I am unsure how prepared they are for it so expect confusion and be prepared for unforeseen problems. Please feel free to ask any questions because I want to make it as easy as possible for everybody going to the concert.

    More than likely there will be a heavy police presence to facilitate movement and protect the concert goers. I expect they will have most of our department working because of the concert so that should help. For some reason they think bands like DMB and Phish bring a crowd of undesirables who threaten public safety.

    At some point I'll add in here some great bars and restaurants that aren't packed and too expensive. Please ask any questions you may have and if I don't know the answer I'll do my best to find out!
    Any advice for those staying outside of AC? I'm staying at the Days Inn in Egg Harbor Township and was planning on just driving into town to one of the casinos and busing in from there...would I be better off getting a cab from the hotel to Bader Field?
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    Why Jersey such a fucking shit hole? Can you guys please clean that motherfucker up?
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    Central / South Jersey is pretty nice. Kind of
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    What's the cost of parking going to be like for the weekend? I'll be in WW Crest, so I'll have to park all three days...
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    So nice of you to do this!

    I've never been to Bader field but from what I'm reading, it sounds like there's not going to be any parking at the stadium??

    I was hoping to bring an RV down and stay in town for the weekend with it. Is there anywhere for us to park overnight or are we out of luck with that idea?

    Thanks for your help!!
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    Could you please address the thug and drug problems in Camden officer?
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    I was wondering how far of a walk it is from the HoJo on Albany Ave, anything under 1.5 miles and I'll probably just walk. Thanks!
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    Thanks man this helps I live in upper NJ, and im going with my gf im pretty excited
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    wow, that's kind of awesome of you

    I hope you get to see some of the shows even though you'll be working.
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    wow thanks reading this was really helpful at the same a little scary! im a girl and as of now im going to the concert solo .... all my friends bailed on me but im not cancelling cuz this is my summer vaca! how concerned do you think i should be? im just really hoping to meet some people that i can atleast travel to and from the concert with, i think ill be pretty safe one im at the venue. im staying at the irish pub ... and what I was wondering mostly is what is the walk like from there to the boardwalk/casinos if Im coming back at night from those places ? any info/advice would help! i think i need to know how worried I should be !
    I am heading to the shows solo as well. Some friends are joining me on the trip to AC, however they just want to gamble.

    I figure I'll hit the Irish Pub and join the fun there, go to the shows from there.
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    Hey all, I'm on my way back from NC now. I'll answer everything I can later tonight.
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    Ok to answer all questions regarding walking distance I did some calculations based on average walking speed of 20 minutes per mile for all the casinos located on the Boardwalk. People staying at Borgata, Golden Nugget (Trump Marina), or Harrah's should not even consider walking as an option due to the neighborhoods required to pass through, distance, and danger of crossing highways....Your best bet there would be Jitney or any shuttle services being offered....Here's a list of casinos and some hotels which were mentioned, starting with the closest to the venue.

    The miles and times are just estimates and assuming you take the boardwalk to west to Albany Avenue and then north to the venue. Most people are unaware that the island on which Atlantic City lies (Absecon Island) is actually slightly obliqued unlike most shore towns. Therefore the boardwalk technically runs east to west even though it feels like it would be north to south since it runs along the beach. Understanding that makes getting around a little easier.

    HILTON: .84 miles, 17 minute walk
    TROPICANA 1.07 miles, 22 minute walk
    TRUMP PLAZA 1.60 miles, 32 minute walk
    CAESARS 1.72 miles, 34 minute walk
    BALLY'S 1.88 miles, 36 minute walk
    IRISH PUB 2.35 miles, 47 minute walk
    TAJ MAHAL, SHOWBOAT 2.68 miles, 54 minute walk

    I wouldn't attempt walking if you're staying past Bally's. Remember there will be shuttles from throughout the city going to the venue. The locations are still unknown and will probably be crowded but walking an hour isn't much fun.

    Other hotels mentioned:

    Howard Johnson, 1630 North Albany Ave: 1.44 miles, 28 minute walk
    (if the road is shut down past here walking may be the best method, I"ll let you know once the plan is actually formulated)


    Day's Inn, Egg Harbor Twp
    I think it would be easier to get transport from the hotel to the venue, depending on if access is available from that direction to the venue. Nobody is sure how much of the road they plan on closing, if you can take a cab and get dropped off on the Black Horse Pike AKA Rte 40 AKA Albany Avenue within walking distance it is worth it. If you have to take the Atlantic City Expressway into the city you will only get stuck in more traffic and end up paying a ton for fare.

    For people planning on parking in the city, casinos will most likely charge between $15.00-$30.00 for parking. Some may even charge only $5.00. One benefit is once you park in one you can request a receipt and use the receipt to park in any other casino even if the charge is higher. They will take the receipt so you can't do it repeatedly. I haven't tried it in awhile but it should still be their policy, because they want people moving around.

    Most casinos will let their premium players park free and give a discounted rate to people with player cards. Every one has their own policy though so you can check to see if you qualify. They can also change their prices at anytime. I've seen them jump from $5 to $20 in less than an hour so be ready for it. I believe Borgata and a couple others have a steady flat rate, however.

    To elaborate on Jitneys, they have multiple stops along Pacific Avenue (parallel to boardwalk, one block north). You can see the signs for Jitney stops on most blocks on Pacific Avenue. Make sure you are on the proper side for the direction you wish to go. They have different numbers but most make the major stops, consult the signs for more information. They will stop wherever you like and go along Pacific Avenue and then head towards the casinos in the inlet: Harrah's, Borgata, Golden Nugget.

    For the people staying at the Irish Pub, it is a great bar and restaurant. You won't find a cheaper meal anywhere. I would be very careful walking towards Pacific Avenue from the bar because St. James Street is home to various vacant buildings and dark lots. I wouldn't walk there alone, or along Pacific Avenue on that end of town. I don't want to scare people, staying in groups is always much safer. These criminals seek out the solo drunk and take advantage of the situation, so stick together!

    Walking along the Boardwalk is generally pretty safe and we will have an enhanced presence and they are working to upgrade the lighting to remove any dark spots along the wood.

    As for RV parking I'll have to look into it. I know there's a lot on Atlantic Avenue at Georgia Avenue where I have seen RV's parked before. I have no idea what they would charge. The plus is there's a great 24 hour bar/ restaurant there called Ducktown Tavern.

    That reminds me, for those of you who aren't aware, Atlantic City has numerous 24 hour bars (Ducktown Tavern, Irish Pub, Picalilly Pub, Chelsea Pub, etc) for all your all night drinkers.

    Near the venue you have the Wonder Bar AKA the Sunset Room, which is located on Albany Avenue at the base of the bridge only a few hundred yards from the concert. They have great food and the bar is out on the bay with great breezes. It'll probably be pretty crowded though. There's a lodge having a party either one night or all nights, I'm not sure yet. The lodge is in the neighborhood across from the venue.

    As I think of more stuff I'll add it....Unfortunately I have work in a few hours and need some sleep...
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    wow thanks reading this was really helpful at the same a little scary! im a girl and as of now im going to the concert solo .... all my friends bailed on me but im not cancelling cuz this is my summer vaca! how concerned do you think i should be? im just really hoping to meet some people that i can atleast travel to and from the concert with, i think ill be pretty safe one im at the venue. im staying at the irish pub ... and what I was wondering mostly is what is the walk like from there to the boardwalk/casinos if Im coming back at night from those places ? any info/advice would help! i think i need to know how worried I should be !
    I would try and stick with a group, St. James Place is a dark street with several abandoned buildings so there's always a risk there. It's not a far walk to Showboat/ Taj Mahal from there but I would never say it's safe for a girl to walk alone in a city. Make some friends at the Pub!
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    Why Jersey such a fucking shit hole? Can you guys please clean that motherfucker up?
    We are doing what we can! Gov. Christie is implementing plans to clean up A.C. but we will see how much is accomplished. It didn't help that 60 officers got laid off in A.C. (including me) and over 100 in Camden. Hopefully with most of us back in A.C. we can focus more on cleaning up the newly created state run Tourism District.
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    Could you please address the thug and drug problems in Camden officer?
    The majority of police departments are understaffed and have been forced to utilize a reactive method of policing. Back when there were officers on foot patrol on every block it was easier to get to know the neighborhood and the inhabitants. Unfortunately with the state-wide shortages the remaining officers are forced to hustle from call to call, leaving little time to focus on crime prevention and more proactive methods.

    As for Camden, it doesn't help that they laid off half of their department forcing them to cut back further forcing most of their time and energy to be devoted to responding to 911 calls.

    The drug war is a never-ending Vietnam with no way out and no way to win. With drugs comes crime, violence, loss of family values, poverty, and poor parenting.

    Unfortunately most children realize that there is very little the criminal justice system can do to them until they are 18 and they start a life of crime at a young age that becomes too enticing to just give up when they turn 18.
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    wow, that's kind of awesome of you

    I hope you get to see some of the shows even though you'll be working.
    I hope so too, I'll probably have to wait till the last minute to buy tickets if I'm not working...if I am working I hope I can hear and see something at least...
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    We are doing what we can! Gov. Christie is implementing plans to clean up A.C. but we will see how much is accomplished. It didn't help that 60 officers got laid off in A.C. (including me) and over 100 in Camden. Hopefully with most of us back in A.C. we can focus more on cleaning up the newly created state run Tourism District.
    Gov. Christie needs to stop shovelling money into millionaires' pockets and maybe they could get some shit done...

    But thanks for all of your advice! I'm coming from WW Crest, think it's be easier to take the Ocean City exit, then shoot over the JFK bridge to AC to beat the traffic? I think if I did that, we'd skip the expensive Parkway toll and pay the cheaper JFK toll too...
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    Officer Charlie should win poster of the year... great thread

    Officer, how come NJ doesn't have any congressmen who expose themselves on the Internet like NY State does?!?!??
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    Re: Thread for any Questions regarding AC Caravan

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    Gov. Christie needs to stop shovelling money into millionaires' pockets and maybe they could get some shit done...

    But thanks for all of your advice! I'm coming from WW Crest, think it's be easier to take the Ocean City exit, then shoot over the JFK bridge to AC to beat the traffic? I think if I did that, we'd skip the expensive Parkway toll and pay the cheaper JFK toll too...


    That's definitely a good plan, traffic shouldn't be bad at all from that direction and plus you're skipping tolls...be careful driving through Linwood, they are strict on speed limits, don't go over 25 mph!
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    Re: Thread for any Questions regarding AC Caravan

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    Officer Charlie should win poster of the year... great thread

    Officer, how come NJ doesn't have any congressmen who expose themselves on the Internet like NY State does?!?!??
    Oh don't be silly, they have to space out these stories...Sometime in late July it will be NJ's turn for a sex scandal.....right now our governor is just using the state police helicopter to fly to his kid's baseball games, just like any other middle class citizen would do !
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