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Old 01-19-2019, 01:37 AM   #124501
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They definitely will, but it's that exciting pre-primary time where we can all dream that they won't.
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    Assuming "our" means liberals, I'm really, really proud of your progress, Ben. Glad to see you on a good path, politically speaking.

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    I feel like it's kind of like the HRC "lock her up" stuff. Not gonna happen.
    I still think Jared or Don Jr. do end up being charged and sentenced, and the pardoned.
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    Old 01-19-2019, 04:32 AM   #124503
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    No way trump is smart enough to have the buzzfeed article planted, right?
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    Here is a difference for me between the left and the right for me at the moment. Some people (including myself) on the left put some faith in some information reported by a couple of Pulitzer Prize reporters (regardless of who they work for)...and when it turns out to be false or unproven or unsubstantiated a lot of people come forward and call out the bullshit and acknowledge the seriousness of such irresponsible reporting. Time will tell what the truth is and I’m okay with Buzzfeed being called out. Egregious and shameful if all this turns out to be false. But I don’t have confidence a lot of trump supporters have as much integrity to call bullshit bullshit.
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    Old 01-19-2019, 06:23 AM   #124505
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    sorry if this has already been mentioned, but it feels like it's quite worth pointing out, if this particular situation was SO completely not at all true even a little bit (which I can't take for granted yet the way that announcement was worded), why would the WH spokesman very conspicuously fail to categorically deny it in no less than 3 responses? (and on Fox, no less! I was sincerely shocked when I saw they were covering it at all... well, I saw after the fact that F&F barely acknowledged it)
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    Old 01-19-2019, 07:10 AM   #124506
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    Think Donnie is dumb enough to use his "major" announcement this afternoon to declare a national emergency?

    He's usually pretty good at fucking up his own positive momentum. This would be 100% in character, making a move that even the majority of his own party doesn't support
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    Old 01-19-2019, 07:14 AM   #124507
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    Anything to keep the base clamoring.
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    Old 01-19-2019, 07:55 AM   #124508
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    I’m not trying to ballwash BuzzFeed News at all, but is still unclear (purposefully it seems) what exactly the SC is refuting. There’s probably a good reason they’re being vague.

    Both sides will obviously spin the refutation in their own direction because that’s just what they do, but we’ll hopefully get more clarity at some point from the SC about what particular elements they find inaccurate.
    And they're not saying the report is one big lie, they're saying (unspecifically) certain parts are inaccurate. Big difference. BuzzFeed isn't going to publish a story of this magnitude if it was all uncorroborated bullshit that they knew was just going to blow up in their face. Zero chance they'd knowingly take that risk with what the reprocussions would be to their company. It's not like they're some kid blogger typing away in their parents basement.
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    Old 01-19-2019, 08:14 AM   #124509
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    And they're not saying the report is one big lie, they're saying (unspecifically) certain parts are inaccurate. Big difference. BuzzFeed isn't going to publish a story of this magnitude if it was all uncorroborated bullshit that they knew was just going to blow up in their face. Zero chance they'd knowingly take that risk with what the reprocussions would be to their company. It's not like they're some kid blogger typing away in their parents basement.

    See I feel like the very fact that Mueller has taken this long (tho *ahem* still shorter than Benghazi, plus how many indictments and pleas have they already gotten out of this thing) only maybe further gives the above possible credence. He wants to be so fucking dead on with this by the time it fully comes out, he's not letting a single air bubble out. Which at least could explain what plenty of people seem to see as very careful wording by design.
    I mean, of course Trump and the whole cabal will try to bullshit the way out of things, but I almost look at it now like if Mueller was a filmmaker, he's taking time to get his screenplay w/o an ounce of fat on it, because he won't have one frame to waste when it comes to filming.
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    No way trump is smart enough to have the buzzfeed article planted, right?
    Maybe. He has a long history as a media manipulator.
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    Lol nutty resistanceee
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    Old 01-19-2019, 09:23 AM   #124512
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    Lol nutty resistanceee
    Says the guy retweeting a 10 year economic comparison between a global financial crisis and now.

    That's not nutty, that's just dumb. Economics doesn't seem to be your strength...
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    Old 01-19-2019, 09:24 AM   #124513
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    Unrelated, and more serious, shotty - is Cam going to pull an Andrew Luck and take the year off to get his shoulder right?
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    Old 01-19-2019, 09:29 AM   #124514
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    Says the guy retweeting a 10 year economic comparison between a global financial crisis and now.

    That's not nutty, that's just dumb. Economics doesn't seem to be your strength...
    China has also made huge leaps over the last 10 years.
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    Says the guy retweeting a 10 year economic comparison between a global financial crisis and now.

    That's not nutty, that's just dumb. Economics doesn't seem to be your strength...
    Worldwide poverty starvation and destitution has plummeted over the past 20 years. Thanks capitalism!
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    Old 01-19-2019, 10:18 AM   #124516
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    Unrelated, and more serious, shotty - is Cam going to pull an Andrew Luck and take the year off to get his shoulder right?
    Certainly a possibility
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    Here is a difference for me between the left and the right for me at the moment. Some people (including myself) on the left put some faith in some information reported by a couple of Pulitzer Prize reporters (regardless of who they work for)...and when it turns out to be false or unproven or unsubstantiated a lot of people come forward and call out the bullshit and acknowledge the seriousness of such irresponsible reporting. Time will tell what the truth is and I’m okay with Buzzfeed being called out. Egregious and shameful if all this turns out to be false. But I don’t have confidence a lot of trump supporters have as much integrity to call bullshit bullshit.
    Is Muller himself a member of the shameful people as well considering his aide Carr (presumably after clearing it with Muller) stated about the report that it was largely nonsense. This is the statement. "BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the special counsel’s office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony are not accurate.
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    Compromise on DACA for $5.7B for the wall

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-t...ng-11547920247
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    Remember when the Dems offered him $25B for the wall in exchange for DACA?

    He played himself bigly. And this also comes down to how the courts rule on his EO right?
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    What a brilliant dealmaker. Loses out on 20 billion and still has to protect children!
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    Whats the equivalent of DACA, dreamers etc in Mexico? Can we just chill down there and demand stuff or do they view it as obviously ridiculous?
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    What's it called when someone discriminates against other people based on what country they're from?
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    Whats the equivalent of DACA, dreamers etc in Mexico? Can we just chill down there and demand stuff or do they view it as obviously ridiculous?
    So shotty does not approve of what appears to be Trump's proposal?
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    Whats the equivalent of DACA, dreamers etc in Mexico? Can we just chill down there and demand stuff or do they view it as obviously ridiculous?
    You're a 10 year old? Your posts make more sense.
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    You're a 10 year old? Your posts make more sense.
    I’ll never not be able to read them in a kid voice again.



    Spot on.
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    https://twitter.com/elaheizadi/statu...820332544?s=21

    “Indian Country Today has details on the elder in that viral video.

    His name is Nathan Phillips, a Vietnam veteran who holds a regular ceremony for Native American veterans buried at Arlington National Cemetery.”

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    So shotty does not approve of what appears to be Trump's proposal?
    Gotta compromise in politics
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    It's really fucking sad that we can't come to a compromise on American Safety...When did safety become a compromise???

    This compromise will pass the Senate - let;s see if the House will take this shutdown seriously
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    It's really fucking sad that we can't come to a compromise on American Safety...When did safety become a compromise???

    This compromise will pass the Senate - let;s see if the House will take this shutdown seriously
    We're safer now than ever. Let's stop throwing money at halfway projects and bridges (walls) to nowhere.

    Want to know what would pass the Senate? The bill that all 100 senators passed that would reopen the government and tackle immigration and the border separately.

    Republicans need to stop holding government hostage every time they don't get their way because they're shitty legislators. This is the 4th shutdown they've caused since 2013
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    It's really fucking sad that we can't come to a compromise on American Safety...When did safety become a compromise???

    This compromise will pass the Senate - let;s see if the House will take this shutdown seriously
    Are you talking about the wall or gun control? Because if this is about American Safety, we can make this a win-win deal for everyone.
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