Come Tomorrow vs Stand Up

[BotheLaneFan]

Stand Up for me, but they’re pretty close. Def lower end DMB releases.

[haiku.warrior]

Stand Up by a landslide

[Alpine416]

Originally Posted by Bearclaw_

A blah album that is all over the place

• 1 Dreamgirl AWFUL
• 2 Old Dirt Hill (Bring That Beat Back) Fun song, especially D&T
• 3 Stand Up (For It) AWFUL
• 4 American Baby Intro Meh
• 5 American Baby Meh
• 6 Smooth Rider AWFUL
• 7 Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives) AWFUL
• 8 Out of My Hands AWFUL
• 9 Hello Again Like It
• 10 Louisiana Bayou Tolerable, with Buddy
• 11 Stolen Away on 55th & 3rd Meh
• 12 You Might Die Trying Like It
• 13 Steady as We Go Meh
• 14 Hunger for the Great Light AWFUL

This is pretty spot on. Though I'd add if we are judging them as studio albums than we don't get to throw in how ODH is good D & T. I agree it is great in that format but studio version = AWFUL.

Stand up is wayyyy worse and it's not even close.

[swordo84]

Hard pass. Neither should exist.

[ToySoldier#34]

Stand Up takes the W

[grilldanmo]

I love the cohesion argument.

It carries no weight for me. I understand it, but growing up making and listening to mixed tapes (from mostly my dad's vinyls...I'm old & stuff), I'd make tapes of my favorite tunes from artists. These were much better than any "greatest hits" compilations, because they always included the objectively superior tunes (many of which were never deemed hits). Then I'd just mix stuff together from different artists, w/ little to no thought about what did or didn't connect them...no themed tapes, just shit I liked, cutting the fat. My favorite thing is live music and I've yet to see a band play and album front to back, so it's always a selection from their careers, often w/ covers thrown in.

It's just about listening to tunes I like. Cohesion is certainly not a construct, but it's not something that I've ever gotten hung up on. Do you folks find it difficult to listen to greatest hits albums? Or b-side collections? One of my favorite albums from Toad the Wet Sprocket is In Light Syrup...kinda of a template for the dream album I'd love to hear from DMB. It's one of their best collections of songs and I've never thought about the fact that were recorded at different times & places and from different sessions. The songs just sound awesome.

[RiotAct]

gun to my head, honest to god, Stand Up. For ABI, American Baby, EWU, and OOMH alone.

[CryFreedom17]

I don't really consider Come Tomorrow an album. Yes its a collection of songs...but there is no natural flow. Its just a compilation of random songs that were pieced together over a period of years. Then they just threw Come Tomorrow on there and it has no connection at all to anything else on the album and then they just released it. But hey, it went to #1 so what the hell do i know.

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

gun to my head, honest to god, Stand Up. For ABI, American Baby, EWU, and OOMH alone.

and Hello Again, of course. Not sure how I forgot that one

[wvufan2010]

Stand Up for me. American Baby,


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[wvufan2010]

Stand Up for me. American Baby, Hello Again, YMDT, Stolen Away, ODH, and yes even Stand Up (Roi’s work on it) have lots of moments I enjoy. The run of ViTR through Come On is pretty good, but everything else on there I have no desire to revisit.


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[kelchlsm]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

and Hello Again, of course. Not sure how I forgot that one

because it never belonged with these songs/ recording sessions

ive always felt like Trouble With You was supposed to take its place but they scrapped it last second because at the time had they not released any of the 2004 songs people wouldve been pissed.....so they threw everyone a bone with the half ass Hello Again. Thats just my general consensus though, not sure if thats exactly how it really went down.

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by kelchlsm

because it never belonged with these songs/ recording sessions

ive always felt like Trouble With You was supposed to take its place but they scrapped it last second because at the time had they not released any of the 2004 songs people wouldve been pissed.....so they threw everyone a bone with the half ass Hello Again. Thats just my general consensus though, not sure if thats exactly how it really went down.

Sugar Will not getting a proper studio release is one of the greatest travesties in music history.

[blumathu]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

Sugar Will not getting a proper studio release is one of the greatest travesties in music history.

Yeah but if they included it on WATM it would have been 4 minutes long, which would have been a greater travesty.

[blumathu]

I genuinely like the studio cut of Samurai Cop. Am I the only one?

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by blumathu

I genuinely like the studio cut of Samurai Cop. Am I the only one?

It's like they used a scratch track for Dave's guitar. It sounds lazy to me. I like the song but won't listen to the album version as a result.

[chadizzy1]

I did the rating thing and have both at a +7. But I like listening to Come Tomorrow more. But both seem to rate the same for me on the +/- rating scale

[LetYouDown22]

For an album, it’s CT by a lot. Even better than AFTW for me personally minus Broken Things. But live I do prefer Stand Up by quite a bit.

[LetYouDown22]

Originally Posted by blumathu

I genuinely like the studio cut of Samurai Cop. Am I the only one?

Nope. Our first was born around the time Samurai Cop came out…..super sentimental song to our family.

[Dannyyankou]

I don't know what's worse. The production on IOY, or the awkward transition between Hello Again and Bayou. I think the story behind the latter is that the tracklist changed last minute and they needed to cut off the jam of Hello Again to make space?

[RSSR]

CT for me. I do like more of SU, but CT has stuff I'd take at any show I'd go to. SU is mostly on enough LTs now that it's there and documented if I ever need to hear SU live.

[alec]

As an album, I would take CT (but I would rearrange the order of the tracks).

Live version I would take most of the Stand Up songs over anything on CT.
*except VITR with Dave on keys

[AndySlash]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

gun to my head, honest to god, Stand Up. For ABI, American Baby, EWU, and OOMH alone.

Originally Posted by RiotAct

and Hello Again, of course. Not sure how I forgot that one

to listen to this run of songs is literally the only reason i would ever intentionally put stand up on for, and even then i could be ok with omitting abi/american baby since smooth rider spoils the run. that said, these are both terrible records but come tomorrow should be "winning" this poll by more than the current 2:1 margin, imo. stand up is the absolute nadir of this bands recorded output.

[ElijahSoRight72]

Originally Posted by blumathu

I genuinely like the studio cut of Samurai Cop. Am I the only one?

I genuinely think it's a good song. The studio cut is at least better than the way they are playing it now, but it bothers me that it feels too sparse. The horns do very little, they actively took out the horn section in the bridge and replaced it with just a Tim solo at the last minute. To this day, I believe that an easy harmony over the verses/choruses would have done a lot for the song. I just think it could have been given more attention, but like a lot of Come Tomorrow, it feels a bit unfinished.

[seanbrutus]

Originally Posted by blumathu

I genuinely like the studio cut of Samurai Cop. Am I the only one?

Nope! I love that cut. I think the guitar sounds fine the way it is. I really adore that album. It's not their best, but it's not nearly what people make it out to be.

[spoot388]

studio version, i'll take CT, but live, SU

[hemlickhidney]

Song wise, I think there are some excellent songs on Stand Up that have turned into some great live staples. Even the songs with crap lyrics have some really good melodies and hooks. Only garbage tune to me is Everybody Wake Up which I think is the worst song ever by the band (tied with Mother Father, ugh). With CT... a few stand out but overall average. At a show I don't really hope for any of them to be played. I don't hate it, don't love it, it just exists.

Production wise, Stand Up is awful. I cannot handle it. I told myself I liked it when it came out and listened to it a lot... but I can't now. CT production is... fine. Nothing exciting. Again, I am totally indifferent.

I clicked CT as my vote when I opened the thread but I think I just changed my mind. Even though I dislike most of the recordings on Stand Up... they are better songs overall with better staying power and that tips the scales for me.

[hemlickhidney]

Originally Posted by spoot388

studio version, i'll take CT, but live, SU

100% agree, totally sums up in a few words what I feel.

[hemlickhidney]

When I first heard She on CT I thought this is a totally phoned in song you made up in 20 minutes just to fill some time. So boring.

[StevieK]

This is a dork thread.. everyone here loves drunken solider. Soo epic