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Old 08-19-2012, 01:04 PM   #1
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Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri who is running against Sen. Claire McCaskill, justified his opposition to abortion rights even in case of rape with a claim that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses that prevent pregnancy.

“First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Akin said that even in the worst-case scenario — when the supposed natural protections against unwanted pregnancy fail — abortion should still not be a legal option for the rape victim.

“Let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work, or something,” Akin said. “I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”

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    oh no not this irrelevant issue again. the good ole "teh rapez pregnancy" that almost never happens.
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    But it does happen.
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    oh no not this irrelevant issue again. the good ole "teh rapez pregnancy" that almost never happens.
    It's easy to cherry pick what's an irrelevant issue, isn't it?

    Don't be in denial; it does happen.
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    it's the illegitimate rape's that I'm concerned with. Those have like a 95% pregnancy rate.
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    This guy is a good reminder to America that there are many elected Republicans who are batshit craxy
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    This guy is a good reminder to America that there are many elected politicians who are batshit craxy
    Fixed. Batshit crazy doesn't discriminate.
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    I could not figure out why this is the lead story on CNN. some nobody congressman says something idiotic. Then I heard he is the republican nominee for senate.


    Now the narrative makes sense.
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    Fixed. Batshit crazy doesn't discriminate.
    That's true.

    This guy just probably lost his election though, even with a current lead.
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    I could not figure out why this is the lead story on CNN. some nobody congressman says something idiotic. Then I heard he is the republican nominee for senate.


    Now the narrative makes sense.
    http://www.foxnews.com/

    It's on the fox news front page too.

    I'm as in the middle as someone can be in the abortion debate: I never vote on it, think it is wrong, and question why anyone would ever get one (although I think it should be legal), but knowing someone like this could serve in the Senate is pretty disgusting. In related news, this guy just became Jim Demint's best friend.
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    Even hardcore conservatives like Malkin are throwing this dude under the bus.

    Senate majority leader Reid once again
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    It's the "legitimate" I have a problem with....
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    It's the "legitimate" I have a problem with....
    My body has a way of shutting these posts down.
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    I'm amazed out how many politicians are terrible at politics.
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    Only Polanski rape can get you pregnant. Everyone knows that.
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    I knew there was a lot less smart assery around here lately. Where you been?
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    oh no not this irrelevant issue again. the good ole "teh rapez pregnancy" that almost never happens.
    The pregnancy rate from rape is actually pretty high -- often reported to be 5%, but has been reported to be as high as 7% or more.

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    The pregnancy rate from rape is actually pretty high -- often reported to be 5%, but has been reported to be as high as 7% or more.
    I don't doubt that, I'm just saying people getting pregnant from rape is a small % compared to the people who get pregnant overall.

    Some people try to use the "rape exception" as a way to delegitimize opposition to abortion. But being against abortion in all cases is an ideologically consistent position, as awful as it is for someone to become pregnant from a rape.
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    I don't doubt that, I'm just saying people getting pregnant from rape is a small % compared to the people who get pregnant overall.
    Pregnancy from rape is a real thing. Earlier in the post you said that it "almost never happens". It happens less often than pregnancy from consensual sex (as most women try to get pregnant while they are ovulating and are not using contraception -- but rape can happen at any time to anyone and it does indeed happen and results in tens of thousands of unwanted pregnancies. I'm a bit unsure why you believe that "pregnancy from consensual sex" is the baseline standard for comparison.

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    Some people try to use the "rape exception" as a way to delegitimize opposition to abortion. But being against abortion in all cases is an ideologically consistent position, as awful as it is for someone to become pregnant from a rape.
    Hm. It sounds like you're trying to use "ideological consistency" as a way to legitimize opposition to abortion.
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    I knew there was a lot less smart assery around here lately. Where you been?
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    Hm. It sounds like you're trying to use "ideological consistency" as a way to legitimize opposition to abortion.
    Why should someone opposed to abortion have to legitimize their opinion?
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    Why should someone opposed to abortion have to legitimize their opinion?
    Is this question asking why someone should have to legitimize an opposition to abortion or legitimize any opinion whatsoever?

    I may be in the minority of Americans, but I believe that legitimacy trumps "truthiness".
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    Is this question asking why someone should have to legitimize an opposition to abortion or legitimize any opinion whatsoever?
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    Take it either way actually. I see noting illegitimate about being opposed to abortion. You may disagree vehemently but it does not make the opinion any less legitimate.
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    Take it either way actually. I see noting illegitimate about being opposed to abortion. You may disagree vehemently but it does not make the opinion any less legitimate.
    I see opposition to abortion as neither legitimate nor illegitimate. I have a problem when people pass off opinions as facts, and then call those "facts" legitimate.

    But more to my original point, I have a problem when someone uses ideological consistency as a justification for a particular opinion or belief, especially when maintaining ideological consistency requires selective ignorance of reality.

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