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Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz
Ever since my first show, I dreamed of getting a Section B Row 1 ticket at the Gorge. I knew the only way was to work hard and make enough money to buy a front row ticket.
By the time I did, they switched over to PIT. So instead of 'Who wants to spend the most for front row', it turned into 'Who wants to sleep on the grass for 1-2 nights in front of a venue?'
To me, the PIT is unfair to begin with. Front row should go to those lucky enough to get a front row ticket through being a longtime WH member, or someone willing to pay the fee. The whole 'Who wants to waste two days of your life sleeping like a homeless person' is just ridiculous.
The PIT should be deleted forever, but it'll never happen.
Edit: sorry, went off on a rant. To your point, yes, showing up and waiting was fair, but I don't think it's wrong to give others an opportunity after having the same system in place for so many years. Plus, it's the same people who are railed year after year.. I think they can live with being 3 rows back for a few years while they try this system. Just my take
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Ok, so I totally respect your opinion and perspective, however, your problem stems from the fact that most of your experiences are at the Gorge which is a giant shit show as respects to the Pit and the amount of (literally) sweaty try-hards willing to eat grass and sleep on rocks for 3 days to be rail.
At a more normal show with a much smaller pit and less crazy folk it really isn't like that. Houston for example has a pit that only has about 400 people in it. We usually drive in around 2:30/3 and get in line. We end up with about 15-20 people in front of us. Even by 6 there is only maybe 40-45 people waiting. I've honestly enjoyed my experiences. Everyone tends to be chill. People are sharing the shade and any beers available since you can't bring it in. The last 3 years we have walked in a single file line down to the pit and everyone has been pretty good about the whole thing.
Dallas, bigger pit and maybe 150 people are all lined up. Still a pretty nice crowd and of course some of the Houston folk to be repeats. Even in that experience 2 of the last 3 times we have all walked down single file and it's been cool. The 3rd time was 4 years ago and a bunch of people started running. Someone fell and hurt themselves trying to run. The last two times it has been security every 15 feet and they don't screw around anymore. They'll hold people back if they seem some causing issues and I think they really would remove you from the venue.
There is no perfect system and I get that. Personally, I like being the master of my own destiny and not having an opportunity to effect where I stand/sit kind of sucks. Ironically, I love gambling... but I prefer card games and things I have influence over like Hold'em. Pattern?
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Originally Posted by ExistenceNow
I would definitely rather front row go to someone willing to spend all day in line than to the highest bidder.
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Completely this. We did buy Bama tickets once back in 2003 and it was a great experience all around, however, the best seats should go to real fans, not rich fans.