General Discussion on Setlists as a Whole This Year

[YankeesDMB41]

The energy was dead for Captain, a song that maybe 5% of the crowd knew??? I'm shocked.

[tyler3440]

Piss poor crowd

[tyler3440]

https://youtu.be/oTk242S2Bq0

This guy was pretty exited tho.

[misschung]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

The energy was dead for Captain, a song that maybe 5% of the crowd knew??? I'm shocked.

That's exactly what I said last night - wtf

[garagebrothers]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

The energy was dead for Captain, a song that maybe 5% of the crowd knew??? I'm shocked.

That's really disappointing and I am sure is part of Dave's thought process when making setlists. 95% of the people curently at his shows would bawk at spending time on Dmb message board discussing the setlists.

In the recent interview that Dave did, it sounded like he would prefer quiet crowds but I guess that's a totally different thing. Like he said, he knows what butters his bread. Disappointing for people like us that enjoy the rarer stuff.

[misschung]

Originally Posted by jake.sager

Jeff responded to an instagram comment I had about adding in tour debuts that would make people happy!!! Seemed a bit sarcastic haha but he said “sure. We’ll get right on it. Hahahaha”

The band does seem to have a weird attitude on social media this tour. I mean, I get it - it must be annoying to justify your every move to fans, but what do they expect?

Originally Posted by garagebrothers

To the people that were there last nite, how was the energy for Captain? Because on the scope it seemed like no one was really enjoying it except for the bros scoping that were yelling "HAHA, You called it fucker! Crazy Easy!"

Why is it that people with no knowledge seem to have the most confidence? Sad to say that if it was Crazy Easy, it would have had the same turd-in-a-punchbowl response as Captain did last night.

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

Catering to the 40 year old weirdo women who contribute to things like the eyebrow thread and family is why the product as a wholechasnt been anywhere close to what it could be

The eyebrow thread? Please tell me that's not true. I made the mistake of posting a pit picture in 2016 and not watermarking it, and I fear for where it's ended up, and what people have done while looking at it. Bleh.

[socccerr8]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

The energy was dead for Captain, a song that maybe 5% of the crowd knew??? I'm shocked.

5% of Lawn or Pavillion? If Lawn then I wouldn't be shocked, its a deep track off an album from 16 years ago. If Pavillion for someone willing to shell out that money, you should be a big enough fan to recognize it.

[misschung]

Originally Posted by socccerr8

5% of Lawn or Pavillion? If Lawn then I wouldn't be shocked, its a deep track off an album from 16 years ago. If Pavillion for someone willing to shell out that money, you should be a big enough fan to recognize it.

Pit too from what I saw on the scopes

[garagebrothers]

Originally Posted by tyler3440

https://youtu.be/oTk242S2Bq0

This guy was pretty exited tho.

I think he sang one of the Dave covers in the other thread

[LaLaLaLaHey]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

The energy was dead for Captain, a song that maybe 5% of the crowd knew??? I'm shocked.

Captain had 0 energy when I last saw it at Irvine in 2015, and Herbie Hancock was playing on it. Horrible show flow around that point and felt like everything died, but we were lucky enough to get that song...

[berman1125]

Captain had no response because I would say 15% of the crowd knew it. All of us were dancing and singing but they never play it so casual fans don’t know it

[salrx95]

I would say besides my wife and I only about 5 people seemed to know Captain within the first 30 or so around me in section 700, row JJ.

Their loss.

[Melted]

Originally Posted by misschung

The band does seem to have a weird attitude on social media this tour. I mean, I get it - it must be annoying to justify your every move to fans, but what do they expect?



Why is it that people with no knowledge seem to have the most confidence.

Donald trump to a T.

[LetYouDown22]

Did the Captain from last night have the reprise like it did from Alpine 2015? That was a nice thing to see happen in person, but otherwise the song is definitely one that I'd be ok avoiding in Chicago.

[Titotimmy]

I was in one of the first pavilion sections behind the pit, had a solid group of hardcores around that shared my excitement but my girlfriend quickly pointed out the horde moving down the aisles for the bathroom; I shrugged and told her those are the people here for Crash

[crashintonickdm]

Captain would get reactions if it was played more than 40 times in 16 years. Again look at the frontman for abnormal numbers of plays for key songs

[ExistenceNow]

People don't react and then talk through all quiet/slow songs.

It's just the nature of live music. People are fucking apes that make loud noises in response to loud sounds.

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

Captain would get reactions if it was played more than 40 times in 16 years. Again look at the frontman for abnormal numbers of plays for key songs

Captain, a key song?

[bcore15]

All I know is that I brought enough energy during captain and the rest of the show to keep my section loud

[LaLaLaLaHey]

Captain is a show killer for casual fans looking to have a good time

We all appreciate the song because of where it came from & it’s studio version, but like VITR, it just kills the energy live. Experienced this on 9/12/15, the last day it was played before it was liberated the other day. You could feel the energy die, everyone went to the bathrooms, and people were talking. Not a great experience. Love the song though.

[ExistenceNow]

Which quieter songs do the casual crowds go crazy for and sit there attentively for?

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

People don't react and then talk through all quiet/slow songs.

It's just the nature of live music. People are fucking apes that make loud noises in response to loud sounds.

[dontdrink36]

It's a viscous cycle.
Dave doesn't play a certain song very much over a period of time or ever like Captain.

Then it becomes rare and casual fans forget or never really know it.

Dave decides to play it and the casuals(most of the crowd) doesn't recognize it and head to the beer line/restroom.

Dave sees the lukewarm reception and decides to shelve it.

Repeat.

[btpeters]

People will usually be good for a quiet song in the E1 spot. Probably cuz they are expecting something like that to happen.

#40 seems to be the only quiet song that’ll shut people up...BUT, I dunno if that’s true anymore (outside of SPAC) cuz he never friggin plays it.

Let You Down at Deer Creek in 2015 was a moment that you could feel the whole building stunned in disbelief at what was going on...and it hadn’t been played in 17 years. But it’s also part of their most known/popular album.

[btpeters]

Proudest Monkey, Big Eyed Fish, Digging a Ditch, Old Dirt Hill and Lover Lay Down usually do well.

Trying to think of ones beside pop love tunes or that don’t get into a louder jam or Dave wailing part.

[crashintonickdm]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

Captain, a key song?

Bad word for that.

My point is no song unless it’s an album year should have way more plays than others. Idc what song it is

There should be about even number of plays.

[YankeesDMB41]

Captain could have gotten played 20 times a tour for the last 15 years and no one would care. It's not that exciting of a song.

[crashintonickdm]

To the party animals sure no one would but that shouldn’t be their target Audience.

[DMBstandUP1984]

IMO captain is exciting live

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

To the party animals sure no one would but that shouldn’t be their target Audience.

This is what I'm driving at. The casual masses don't give a shit what slow song is being played, so maybe throw those of us who do care a frickin bone more often.