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Old 09-04-2019, 09:49 AM   #168361
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Yeah I don’t see someone hating the extremist of the religion as racist. Just like Christianly has extremist that i hate. Like I hate the Topeka Kansas weirdos. Whatever the fuck they are called.
Yes, of course it is acceptable do view extremists of any religion or racial group negatively based on their actions.

However, Gabe incorrectly and purposefully conflates Americans like Tlaib and Omar with actual Islamic extremists because he doesn't like some aspects of their politics. Further, he often baselessly takes shots at the entire Islamic religion while also purposefully mislabeling disagreement with Israeli policies vis-à-vis their treatment of Palestinians as anti-semitism.
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    It's not. You can read the emoluments clause and form an opinion. Seems like its not above your pay grade, you're just being ignorant enough to avoid forming an opinion.
    Then Congress should handle it.
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    Then Congress should handle it.
    If congress finds ample evidence that a president is violating the emoluments clause, is that grounds for impeachment?
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    According to pew:

    Catholics make up 10% of South Carolina

    Baptists 34%

    Easily the two biggest groups in South Carolina of religious people.

    Nailed it again, shotty.
    Yeah, but not all of them are wackos, they are just the two denominations I dislike most :-)
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    Old 09-04-2019, 09:54 AM   #168365
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    Are we sure we want to go down the "right there in the doctrine" road when it comes to any religion?
    This! All religion is pretty kooky when you boil it down.
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    Old 09-04-2019, 09:54 AM   #168366
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    The overhead view is of me in a maze
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    Old 09-04-2019, 09:54 AM   #168367
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    If congress finds ample evidence that a president is violating the emoluments clause, is that grounds for impeachment?
    Have at it bud. Election is a year away
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    Old 09-04-2019, 09:55 AM   #168368
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    If congress finds ample evidence that a president is violating the emoluments clause, is that grounds for impeachment?
    Theory? Yes
    Reality? No

    Way too much partisan BS to actually get Trump impeached.
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    Old 09-04-2019, 09:56 AM   #168369
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    The overhead view is of me in a maze
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    And I take a wrong turn and I'm on the wrong path
    And the people all watching enjoy a good laugh
    Embarrassed with failure, I try to reverse
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    So doing the trauma engulfing my dream
    Invaded through what was an unguarded seam
    The torrent of helplessness swept me away
    To the cavern of shame and the hall of dismay
    Inside me a voice was repeating this phrase:
    "You've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze"

    You'll never get out of this maze
    You'll never get out of this maze
    You'll never get out of this maze
    You'll never get out of this maze
    You'll never get out of this maze
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    Fuck yeah! Phish is the best
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    Old 09-04-2019, 09:56 AM   #168370
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    This! All religion is pretty kooky when you boil it down.
    Absolutely. Varying degrees of societally accepted cult behavior.
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    Old 09-04-2019, 09:57 AM   #168371
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    Have at it bud. Election is a year away
    Should the proximity of an election be the standard when deciding whether or not to impeach a president based on articles that include breaking the law? Is that the legal precedent we should set for presidents who break the law?

    Moreover, should the voters be the ones tasked with determining whether or not someone broke the law, or should the lawmakers elected to represent them be the ones to decide?
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    Should the proximity of an election be the standard when deciding whether or not to impeach a president based on articles that include breaking the law? Is that the legal precedent we should set for presidents who break the law?

    Moreover, should the voters be the ones tasked with determining whether or not someone broke the law, or should the lawmakers elected to represent them be the ones to decide?
    Call Nancy up and tell her to get on the ball!
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    Have at it bud. Election is a year away
    *14 months!! Don't put any more pressure on me than necessary!
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    Old 09-04-2019, 10:03 AM   #168374
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    This! All religion is pretty kooky when you boil it down.
    I was raised catholic, and it’s really not all that kooky. Certainly doesn’t advocated for anything bad. Like idk how people can even twist it that way, but bad people are going to do bad things regardless.
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    I grew up a Methodist, as of now I’d say I’m a free agent
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    Old 09-04-2019, 10:04 AM   #168376
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    This! All religion is pretty kooky when you boil it down.
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    And the people all watching enjoy a good laugh
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    So doing the trauma engulfing my dream
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    Inside me a voice was repeating this phrase:
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    You'll never get out of this maze
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    You want to talk kooky let’s discuss Phish.
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    Old 09-04-2019, 10:05 AM   #168377
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    My cousin is Catholic, went his wedding and my Lord what a dry joyless ceremony
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    I was raised catholic, and it’s really not all that kooky. Certainly doesn’t advocated for anything bad. Like idk how people can even twist it that way, but bad people are going to do bad things regardless.
    People are doing pedophilia at a (much) higher rate in Catholic Church than in American society as a whole, and it sure has taken a while for leaders of the church to come around and do something about it. Denying this is the same as denying the extremist streaks if Islam.
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    I was raised catholic, and it’s really not all that kooky. Certainly doesn’t advocated for anything bad. Like idk how people can even twist it that way, but bad people are going to do bad things regardless.
    Y'all symbolically drink the blood and eat the flesh of your savior. That seems pretty kooky to me.

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    I grew up a Methodist, as of now I’d say I’m a free agent
    Would you say you're religious/Christian and a free agent in terms of denomination or a free agent as in free from any religious belief?
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    If I gussied up Sharia law as conservative/christian principles I'm sure I could get a lot of people to approve those laws in northwest South Carolina.
    When I spent time in this area - about 9 months - I remember Senator Demint stating that unmarried mothers should not be public school teachers and no one said a peep.
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    Y'all symbolically drink the blood and eat the flesh of your savior. That seems pretty kooky to me.



    Would you say you're religious/Christian and a free agent in terms of denomination or a free agent as in free from any religious belief?
    Both. I think about it a lot
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    President Trump mentions Hurricane Dorian's destruction of the Bahamas, then adds: "I must tell you, over the years there have been some hurricanes that were bigger and stronger and more powerful that hit us very hard also" cbsnews.com/live

    Other than just being a terrible person, what is the point in saying something like that?
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    People are doing pedophilia at a (much) higher rate in Catholic Church than in American society as a whole, and it sure has taken a while for leaders of the church to come around and do something about it. Denying this is the same as denying the extremist streaks if Islam.
    More slanted bullshit. I don’t know you but you clearly have an anti catholic agenda so yeah for you. Take this shit and leave if this is all you are here for.

    Your comparison is transparent as you are.
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    I think Sam Harris said it best when he said that the best way to defeat extremism in Islam (and this can be applied to any religion) is to:

    1. Let moderates trying to leave oppressive and broken Islamic states into the United States.
    2. Elect them to positions of power to serve as foils to the powerful in those states, as they could be the examples young people in those countries look up to instead of there own leaders or leaders within terrorist groups.

    This, of course, will never happen as long as people on the right keep accusing elected Muslim (or Christian with funny name like Obama!) officials of being sleeper cells for terrorist organizations (lol).
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    Both. I think about it a lot


    It's a great mental exercise to really explore those beliefs. I was raised in the church. My parents are both pretty devout non-denominational Christians. When I look back I don't think I ever truly believed, but I thought a lot about it when I reached my early 20's and came to the conclusion that none of it is legitimate. It was incredibly freeing.

    I don't fault or judge anyone who is religious unless they try to force those views on others or use it to justify them being idiots.
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    Yeah I don’t see someone hating the extremist of the religion as racist. Just like Christianly has extremist that i hate. Like I hate the Topeka Kansas weirdos. Whatever the fuck they are called.
    The Westboro Baptist Church.

    I think any ideology can swing into scary territory if it's clung to too tightly.
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    More slanted bullshit. I don’t know you but you clearly have an anti catholic agenda so yeah for you. Take this shit and leave if this is all you are here for.

    Your comparison is transparent as you are.
    Its not slanted bullshit, its just a fact. I'm not anti-catholic, but I have a problem with Catholics that deny there's a serious fucking problem in their specific religion when it comes to pedophilia.
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    Is there evidence that he is giving the government discounted rates?
    Yea like trump wouldnt be spouting this at every opportunity if he was giving taxpayers a discount.
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    Its not slanted bullshit, its just a fact. I'm not anti-catholic, but I have a problem with Catholics that deny there's a serious fucking problem in their specific religion when it comes to pedophilia.
    If you think the pedophelia crisis had/has anything to do with the catholic faith or religion itself than you either have an agenda or are as willfully ignorant as you admonish others as being.

    Seriously 2nd grade analysis.
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    So when is Mexico paying for the wall?
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