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Old 08-22-2022, 03:38 PM   #241
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This Water Into Wine is so cool
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    What temperature? Like 65 degrees? Or less even?
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    Old 08-23-2022, 05:45 AM   #243
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    What temperature? Like 65 degrees? Or less even?
    A chilly 57
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    Old 08-23-2022, 11:41 AM   #244
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 60: 8.20.95 - Cincinnati Music Hall

    It gets better with each listen. Love the Chet!
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    I've been through this one 3 times now. Helluva release. LOVE IT.

    Wild, but Satellite sounds amazing on this one. Great jams all around, so much unique stuff crammed into 1 show. Perfection in picking it from those involved.
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    Old 08-24-2022, 05:10 AM   #246
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    I knew this was going to be a special release. This is what a Live Trax is all about. A show like this is what made you instantly fall in love with this band back in the day.

    Also, goes to show the strength of this bands live show. The fact a relatively new band on the scene that has one album released a year prior can walk on stage and open with a song half the crowd at the time has probably never heard, which has no set lyrics, and proceed to do this 5 or 6 more times in the same night is pretty impressive.
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    Old 08-24-2022, 06:18 AM   #247
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    I knew this was going to be a special release. This is what a Live Trax is all about. A show like this is what made you instantly fall in love with this band back in the day.

    Also, goes to show the strength of this bands live show. The fact a relatively new band on the scene that has one album released a year prior can walk on stage and open with a song half the crowd at the time has probably never heard, which has no set lyrics, and proceed to do this 5 or 6 more times in the same night is pretty impressive.

    I was thinking the same thing. A rando going to that show had probably only heard Satellite, Ants Marching and What Would You Say at best. It IS filled with 8 songs off the album in stores (Not sure how hot or available R2T was then).

    And then the encore...which had some experimental stuff to open it, a solo version of a deep track from their album and then...Halloween which...how many people knew what that was to end the entire show? If you were somebody checking them out for the first time because you heard them on the radio or bought Under The Table and Dreaming, you probably thought they were holding back What Would You Say for the closer.

    But, seeing that level of performance and excitement from the band about it all in person clearly wins a person over no matter what they are playing.
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    Old 09-10-2022, 06:06 AM   #249
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 60: 8.20.95 - Cincinnati Music Hall

    I listened to this again over the last 2 days. What an absolutely terrific release. Great mix/master and awesome performances. Top shelf DMB right here. Very happy we got this one!
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    It's such a travesty that this wonderful sounding show wasn't selected for vinyl and instead we got the brutally mixed, raw sounding Deer Creek 2000 show.
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    Old 09-14-2022, 08:08 PM   #251
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    People plead for ‘98-‘04 shows when something like LT61 is announced, and they still find things to complain about talking about a ‘00 show.
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    Hey doby, how does LT60 rate out in the loudness scale?
    Someone uploaded it to the DR without looking at the formatting of all the other ones which is pretty cringe, but solely from a dynamic range standpoint the Live Trax series has been mastered with very little slam from about 2010 onwards.

    Shame we can't say the same about the studio releases lol.

    https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/l...um=live%20trax
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    Old 09-15-2022, 11:01 AM   #253
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    Definitely noticed that! Why do you think studio albums are treated differently? Not just DMB but industry as a whole with A level acts. I don't understand the trend, it doesn't sound good. So why is the consensus amongst producers and people in mastering to just keep doing it?
    I don't think Dave cares too much about the Bama Rags releases and lets management get on with their thing, and they care about dynamics.

    As Mark Batson has said before when asked about the compression, "Dave likes it loud, sorry".


    As for those in the industry, a lot of artists think that's how it will sound good and the mastering engineers for the most part can't afford to fight it or waste the energy trying to educate them. We just have to be grateful for artists that are doing it right - the new Porcupine Tree record for example, sounds fantastic!

    And of course, we enjoy all those CDs from the late 80s and early 90s before it went to shit around '95 with What's The Story.
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    Live Trax Vol. 60: 8.20.95 - Cincinnati Music Hall

    Very interesting topic, as usual.
    At the end, the conclusion might be that a band should do what they are good to (playing) and let the engineers to get the best out of their recordings.
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    this is the best release in years
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    I don't think Dave cares too much about the Bama Rags releases and lets management get on with their thing, and they care about dynamics.

    As Mark Batson has said before when asked about the compression, "Dave likes it loud, sorry".


    As for those in the industry, a lot of artists think that's how it will sound good and the mastering engineers for the most part can't afford to fight it or waste the energy trying to educate them. We just have to be grateful for artists that are doing it right - the new Porcupine Tree record for example, sounds fantastic!

    And of course, we enjoy all those CDs from the late 80s and early 90s before it went to shit around '95 with What's The Story.
    Yeah, sorry 'bout that.
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    Old 11-26-2022, 06:20 AM   #257
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    Yeah, sorry 'bout that.
    Ahahaha!!! Well played. 😂
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 60: 8.20.95 - Cincinnati Music Hall

    This is the best LT release in a long time.
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    This is the best LT release in a long time.
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    Don't know why, but this show isn't doing it for me. I revisited after seeing this pop up. I'd put it in the middle sector of LT releases.
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    Don't know why, but this show isn't doing it for me. I revisited after seeing this pop up. I'd put it in the middle sector of LT releases.
    I don’t know what you’re missing. This show is absolute fire. I’m going to revisit today.
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    this show smokes
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    How does this stack up to the other '95 releases? I have Red Rocks, LT 5, LT 12, Lupo's LT 33, then a couple of the DMBLive releases from '95... so questioning if I need another 95 release. But I have nice audio setup and do love a great sounding release. Live Trax 21 Soma is also on my shortlist as I've read the mix/mastering on that one is very good.
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    It's the best show from 1995 we have released IMO. It's killer from top to bottom.
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    How does this stack up to the other '95 releases? I have Red Rocks, LT 5, LT 12, Lupo's LT 33, then a couple of the DMBLive releases from '95... so questioning if I need another 95 release. But I have nice audio setup and do love a great sounding release. Live Trax 21 Soma is also on my shortlist as I've read the mix/mastering on that one is very good.
    It is absolutely very unique from the other '95 releases that we have. Pick this one up for sure.
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    It is absolutely very unique from the other '95 releases that we have. Pick this one up for sure.
    It's a solid show. Red Rocks 95 is always going to be the primo from that era, but this show is a close 2nd. Mix is awesome too.
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    It's a solid show. Red Rocks 95 is always going to be the primo from that era, but this show is a close 2nd. Mix is awesome too.
    Yes I agree, RR95 is still king.
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    Yeah, sorry 'bout that.
    I'm not (Oasis has been one of my favorite bands since '94)

    I don't know a ton about the science behind frequencies/loudness, etc.. but I did read an article a few years back about how much the dynamics have changed in music over the last 30-40 years and What's the Story like pegged the fuckin needle in the 90's. Those first 3 albums can do no wrong in my book, but What's the Story and Be Here Now proooobably could've been taken down a few notches. haha

    & to stick to the topic of this thread, I went back and relistened to this release also. Very solid! Mix is great, band sounds phenomenal. Excellent pick!
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    How does this stack up to the other '95 releases? I have Red Rocks, LT 5, LT 12, Lupo's LT 33, then a couple of the DMBLive releases from '95... so questioning if I need another 95 release. But I have nice audio setup and do love a great sounding release. Live Trax 21 Soma is also on my shortlist as I've read the mix/mastering on that one is very good.
    LT5 is probably my favorite versions of Jimi Thing and OSW. Incredible mix as well. Hard to top it, in my opinion.

    I find Red Rocks to be overrated but nostalgic at the same time due to its early release in the bands history. LT5 > RR for me and it’s not really close.
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