*Prompter Thread* (NO personal attacks, NO trolling)

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

We didn’t exactly take a vote and I’m no BT that can scour old posts really quickly to find out. Perhaps you were simply silent on th matter when others were so gung ho. Let the record be reflected.

I don’t consider Caz as part of the chamber.

Who is the chamber, then?

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

Ask a question that doesn’t make sense and get an answer like the same.

Guess what? Socialized medicine isn’t socialism either. Do the people own the hospitals and ambulance and doctors?

I think we are suffering from a serious lack of common definitions in this discussion.

You're literally confusing communism and socialism with the bold.

https://www.investopedia.com/video/p...and-socialism/

In a communist society, the working class owns everything, and everyone works toward the same communal goal. There are no wealthy or poor people -- all are equal, and the community distributes what it produces based only on need [...] socialism’s main focus is on equality. But workers earn wages they can spend as they choose, while the government, not citizens, owns and operates the means for production.

Yeah, climb, we are suffering from a serious lack of common definitions in this discussion...but it's not because of a difference in opinions. You just demonstrated your lack of understanding of these economic systems. Why don't you take the time to study up and then I'm sure when you come back you'll find we're all much closer on our general understanding of what socialism is/isn't.

"Socialize medicine isn't socialism" that's one for the ages.

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Fake News. Was not duly ridiculed. Half the reason the chamber gets the chamber nickname is because people lie about how much us libs agree on stuff.

I have never thought Trump would be impeached, nor have I even wanted it to be approached unless there was some absolutely smoking gun about collusion or something.

So I agree with Pelosi.

EDIT: Cazzie agrees, as well, it seems.

Agreed. No point in putting votes to impeachment when there's 0% chance the Senate even acts, let alone votes to convict. It would backfire enormously and divide the country even worse.

[ShotgunDMB]

Originally Posted by mdel21

Very thoughtful answer. Spoken like a single, millennial that doesn't have a clue about having a family, raising kids, etc. The "I got mine, fuck you" attitude.

Let's go with your scenario:
1. Why would any company hire females? They're just gonna have babies and the company will have to keep rehiring and retraining people. We can cut off the middle (wo)man and just hire men.
2. It's discriminating against females.
3. Do you think this would cause a decline in couples having babies?

During pregnancy: Better take care of that baby in there and don't even think about having an abortion.
After birth: Stay home and raise the baby, but hopefully you didn't like your job, cause guess what, it's gone. I hope your husband can make enough to support the three of you, and has great insurance that covers everything.

You live in a sad little bubble devoid of empathy.

Taking care of your family is your responsibility

Pretty sure businesses hire plenty of females w/out being forced to

[Climb2safety]

To BT

Socialism is an economic system where the ways of making a living (factories, offices, etc.) are owned by a society as a whole, meaning the value made belongs to everyone in that society, instead of a group of private owners. People who agree with this type of system are called socialists.

Edit: let’s not act like the two aren’t cut from a similar cloth.

[zajDmB1]

Shotgun will only take his kids to unlicensed doctors when they're ill.

He doesn't need no stinkin' gubmint piece of paper to tell him who can treat his children!

[Arby]

Originally Posted by YouKnowThatItIS

Pelosi comes out against impeaching President Trump:

"I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it." - WaPo

I get the political ramifications. But good lord, if he's not impeachable then who is? Other than Clinton for lying about a bj...

Keep playing nice, Dems :/

[Climb2safety]

In Sweden, private companies provide 20% of public hospital care and 30% of public primary care.

Not socialism.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

We didn’t exactly take a vote and I’m no BT that can scour old posts really quickly to find out.

I'll teach you how to use google if you want

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Who is the chamber, then?

I am curious to know this, too.

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

To BT

Socialism is an economic system where the ways of making a living (factories, offices, etc.) are owned by a society as a whole, meaning the value made belongs to everyone in that society, instead of a group of private owners. People who agree with this type of system are called socialists.

Edit: let’s not act like the two aren’t cut from a similar cloth.

And yet they have distinct, and clear, differences.

When you asked if, in countries with socialized medicine, the people own the hospitals and ambulances - that was you confusing communism (which is exactly what you described) with socialism. No one is advocating (as far as I'm aware) for communist medicine, so I'm not sure of its relevance. But to say socialized medicine isn't a socialist policy...that's some serious mental gymnastic right there.

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Shotgun will only take his kids to unlicensed doctors when they're ill.

He doesn't need no stinkin' gubmint piece of paper to tell him who can treat his children!

According to shottys boy Milton Friedman, The AMA is basically a union so you are dead on that shotty wouldn't find it necessary to have licensed doctors.

Originally Posted by Arby

I get the political ramifications. But good lord, if he's not impeachable then who is? Other than Clinton for lying about a bj...

Keep playing nice, Dems :/

The one thing trump can't stand is being irrelevant, especially to a woman. Even a hated man is powerful. That's what she is trying to do here.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by Arby

I get the political ramifications. But good lord, if he's not impeachable then who is? Other than Clinton for lying about a bj...

Keep playing nice, Dems :/

Frankly, probably no one. Only 2 Presidents have ever been impeached - Clinton and Andrew Johnson - and both were acquitted by the Senate. It's more or less a useless tool for removing a President. You could argue Nixon could have been convicted by the Senate, but he stepped down beforehand so he could get his pardon.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by Arby

I get the political ramifications. But good lord, if he's not impeachable then who is? Other than Clinton for lying about a bj...

Keep playing nice, Dems :/

A rift in the Chamber appears!

[Arby]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

The one thing trump can't stand is being irrelevant, especially to a woman. Even a hated man is powerful. That's what she is trying to do here.

I doubt it. Cause what does that get her...Another twitter rant? Then whats the plan?

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by Arby

I doubt it. Cause what does that get her...Another twitter rant? Then whats the plan?

Isn’t the real Pelosi answer on impeachment that you’d rather run against corrupt, clownish Trump than face Mike Pence and sub-4% unemployment?

The real question is why Republicans don’t want to remove him.

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...821733890?s=19


Maybe something like this thinking?

[Arby]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

Frankly, probably no one. Only 2 Presidents have ever been impeached - Clinton and Andrew Johnson - and both were acquitted by the Senate. It's more or less a useless tool for removing a President. You could argue Nixon could have been convicted by the Senate, but he stepped down beforehand so he could get his pardon.

and Nixon was a better president than trump, all day/every day

[Arby]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

Isn’t the real Pelosi answer on impeachment that you’d rather run against corrupt, clownish Trump than face Mike Pence and sub-4% unemployment?

The real question is why Republicans don’t want to remove him.

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...821733890?s=19


Maybe something like this thinking?

Yea I guess I can see that argument. A bit of a gamble, IMO

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

"Socialize medicine isn't socialism" that's one for the ages.

[drakan]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

To BT

Socialism is an economic system where the ways of making a living (factories, offices, etc.) are owned by a society as a whole, meaning the value made belongs to everyone in that society, instead of a group of private owners. People who agree with this type of system are called socialists.

It's not like that is a totally bad thing. Plenty of workers own stock in the company they work for. Companies have profit sharing and I've read people selling their companies to their workers. That is not that far off.

Meanwhile people bitch that we didn't give Amazon $3 billion dollars in tax breaks.

[drakan]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Shotgun will only take his kids to unlicensed doctors when they're ill.

He doesn't need no stinkin' gubmint piece of paper to tell him who can treat his children!

And he'll pay the doctor with chickens.

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

Socialism is an economic system where the ways of making a living (factories, offices, etc.) are owned by a society as a whole, meaning the value made belongs to everyone in that society, instead of a group of private owners. People who agree with this type of system are called socialists.

so, not Bernie or Liz then

[trd1610]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Taking care of your family is your responsibility

Pretty sure businesses hire plenty of *women w/out being forced to

fixed it for you

[ShotgunDMB]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

Are Nordic countries mad/sad about their government?

Yay conformity and servitude

[ShotgunDMB]

Originally Posted by trd1610

fixed it for you

*Feminazi approved correction

[ShotgunDMB]

Pelosi is an underrated politician. I obviously hate her, but she’s pretty good.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Yay conformity and servitude

So alpha. Such a leader.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Pelosi is an underrated politician. I obviously hate her, but she’s pretty good.

She's the closest the Dems have to a McConnell. She's a shrewd gamesmen. Thats why I thought a lot of the opposition to her from the rank and file was nutty

[mdel21]

Guess we can add sexist to shotty's list of qualities.

[zajDmB1]

I dunno, I feel the same way about her. I don't hate her though...don't care enough about her enough to have that strong an emotion

[ShotgunDMB]

Originally Posted by mdel21

Guess we can add sexist to shotty's list of qualities.

Who the hell are you?

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

so, not Bernie or Liz then

Not currently though Liz and others are entering the zip code.

Or universal healthcare, single payer, or the misnomer that you laughed at above called socialized medicine.

[Climb2safety]

Pelosi seems twice the politician as McConnell