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Old 05-10-2022, 08:25 AM   #14221
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I'd rather never hear Last Stop again if it's going to be this crappy truncated version. That song has been ruined.
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No one is asking they swap Half Stop for Shake Me.

There is a decent argument to say that DMBís best closers have really taken a hit with truncated Last Stop and Two Step, though.

Honestly, closers/encores have been a weak spot for DMB for a while. Thatís where variety is really lacking and things have been stale. They did a good job with openers last year.
This person is saying they'd rather not hear Last Stop if it's shortened. So that means they'd be ok swapping it for a song like Shake Me.

This isn't the first time I've read people using that hyperbole.

Certainly I want full Last Stop, it's one of my favorite songs. I will absolutely take a version of it vs nothing at all. Same for 40, DT, Crazy Easy, Shotgun, etc.
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    This person is saying they'd rather not hear Last Stop if it's shortened. So that means they'd be ok swapping it for a song like Shake Me.
    Deductive reasoning isn't your strong suit, eh?
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    Old 05-10-2022, 08:58 AM   #14223
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    Deductive reasoning isn't your strong suit, eh?
    Explain it to me then.

    Saying you don't want Last Stop truncated of course doesn't mean that specifically Shake Me will take it's spot in this hypothetical setlist. But if it's not played something else will be and I'd rather take a truncated Last Stop or Recently over many other songs.
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    Old 05-10-2022, 09:15 AM   #14224
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    There are plenty of songs I'd take the short version of Last Stop over. That doesn't mean I don't want the full last stop or think its not stupid they zapped the back half. That just means, I'm more excited by the short last stop than another Shake Me, Why I Am, Corn Bread, She, Can't Stop, Everyday...this isn't hard to understand.

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    Old 05-10-2022, 09:26 AM   #14225
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    Keep the weak encores. Gets me out of the show earlier than the rest of you dopes waiting for something awesome to happen.
    This is true. I leave most shows early, not just DMB. Thereís something to be said about getting out of the lot in less than 5 minutes.

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    DMB should definitely start rotating in more variety in their closers. The below songs should all be closing shows just as often as Grey, Rapunzel, Stay, Ants, YMDT, Bayou, Billies, SMLAM, and WIA.

    Warehouse
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    Add So Right. That song should be a staple closer.

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    This person is saying they'd rather not hear Last Stop if it's shortened. So that means they'd be ok swapping it for a song like Shake Me.

    This isn't the first time I've read people using that hyperbole.
    Yes, itís the other people using hyperbole!

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    Old 05-10-2022, 09:28 AM   #14226
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    This is true. I leave most shows early, not just DMB. Thereís something to be said about getting out of the lot in less than 5 minutes.

    i would rather pay a few bucks more for premier parking and stay to the end, but to each his own!
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    Old 05-10-2022, 09:31 AM   #14227
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    i would rather pay a few bucks more for premier parking and stay to the end, but to each his own!

    If you go to Mansfield you can pay for premier parking and get out of the lots by 12:30am it's pretty sweet!
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    Old 05-10-2022, 09:38 AM   #14228
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    i would rather pay a few bucks more for premier parking and stay to the end, but to each his own!
    Even in premier/VIP parking, youíre still going to end up stalled out at some point unless you are to your car before everyone else.

    Whether you get stuck in the lot, at the exit, at the first few traffic lights, etc. Event parking is just a thing I donít like to deal with if I can avoid it by cutting out 2-3 songs early. Especially for a band Iíve seen a few dozen times and arenít likely to play something I havenít seen numerous times. And, if itís a Friday show, Iíll just catch the encore in the car on SiriusXM
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    Even in premier/VIP parking, youíre still going to end up stalled out at some point unless you are to your car before everyone else.

    Whether you get stuck in the lot, at the exit, at the first few traffic lights, etc. Event parking is just a thing I donít like to deal with if I can avoid it by cutting out 2-3 songs early. Especially for a band Iíve seen a few dozen times and arenít likely to play something I havenít seen numerous times. And, if itís a Friday show, Iíll just catch the encore in the car on SiriusXM

    Yep


    I'm going to Hartford, will be staying for the full show and we have a hotel room booked, might go to Mansfield the night before on the lawn and leave towards the end of the main set. I'll take two hours of DMB for $45 and no traffic.
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    Old 05-10-2022, 10:01 AM   #14230
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    Keep the weak encores. Gets me out of the show earlier than the rest of you dopes waiting for something awesome to happen.
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    might go to Mansfield the night before on the lawn and leave towards the end of the main set.
    Further makes my point that DMB isn't doing anything interesting or unique with their sets anymore.
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    Old 05-10-2022, 10:02 AM   #14231
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    Further makes my point that DMB isn't doing anything interesting or unique with their sets anymore.

    I assume you have never been to Mansfield
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    Old 05-10-2022, 10:07 AM   #14232
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    I assume you have never been to Mansfield
    Nope but even if the parking situation were horrible and took hours I would still finish out the show if there was a snowballs chance in hell DMB actually would do something cool in the encore. I finish the shows no matter what but I might join yall in leaving early if the precedent from '21 holds.
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    Old 05-10-2022, 10:09 AM   #14233
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    Nope but even if the parking situation were horrible and took hours I would still finish out the show if there was a snowballs chance in hell DMB actually would do something cool in the encore. I finish the shows no matter what but I might join yall in leaving early if the precedent from '21 holds.

    There isn't anything they could play that would make me want to stay in the lots until 1:30 yet again, before an hour + drive home, before seeing a full show the next night
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    Old 05-10-2022, 10:31 AM   #14234
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    This person is saying they'd rather not hear Last Stop if it's shortened. So that means they'd be ok swapping it for a song like Shake Me.

    This isn't the first time I've read people using that hyperbole.

    Certainly I want full Last Stop, it's one of my favorite songs. I will absolutely take a version of it vs nothing at all. Same for 40, DT, Crazy Easy, Shotgun, etc.
    I just want a Two Step that doesnít have that tired Time Bomb Intro. I mean ďhalf stopď definitely isnít great but with as much as I amongst millions upon millions of others love Two Step, the shrinkage itís taken in the rotation combined with when they do break it out, it has that TBI bs. I just wish Dave would do something other than that intro yawnfest #1stWorldProblems
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    There isn't anything they could play that would make me want to stay in the lots until 1:30 yet again, before an hour + drive home, before seeing a full show the next night
    Yup I live in CT and do Mans/Hartford yearly. I have left Patriots games with 65-70K people quicker than the only time I didn't pay for parking in mansfield.

    Last year I was so happy to see the tim C/DC flying V and Dave's drop D guitar and I walked out as they were playing the intro of DDTW even though I had paid EZ out parking. Helped me get home much quicker and rest up for the Hartford show that is just over 90 minutes from Mansfield. The one way in and out situation at Mansfield is horrible

    On the flip side Hartford being N2 for the majority of these recent single night runs (think 2015 was the only exception) is a venue with 5 or 6 ways to exit and park and is very easy to get out of depending on how far you are willing to walk.
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    I just want a Two Step that doesnít have that tired Time Bomb Intro. I mean ďhalf stopď definitely isnít great but with as much as I amongst millions upon millions of others love Two Step, the shrinkage itís taken in the rotation combined with when they do break it out, it has that TBI bs. I just wish Dave would do something other than that intro yawnfest #1stWorldProblems
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    There isn't anything they could play that would make me want to stay in the lots until 1:30 yet again, before an hour + drive home, before seeing a full show the next night
    You'd walk out of Blue Water or a People, People with Peter Greisar?
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    This is true. I leave most shows early, not just DMB. Thereís something to be said about getting out of the lot in less than 5 minutes.


    Add So Right. That song should be a staple closer.


    Yes, itís the other people using hyperbole!

    I'd take So Right as an opener over a closer, though I think it's strong in both spots
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    This is true. I leave most shows early, not just DMB. Thereís something to be said about getting out of the lot in less than 5 minutes.


    Add So Right. That song should be a staple closer.


    Yes, itís the other people using hyperbole!

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    If you go to Mansfield you can pay for premier parking and get out of the lots by 12:30am it's pretty sweet!
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    Even in premier/VIP parking, youíre still going to end up stalled out at some point unless you are to your car before everyone else.

    Whether you get stuck in the lot, at the exit, at the first few traffic lights, etc. Event parking is just a thing I donít like to deal with if I can avoid it by cutting out 2-3 songs early. Especially for a band Iíve seen a few dozen times and arenít likely to play something I havenít seen numerous times. And, if itís a Friday show, Iíll just catch the encore in the car on SiriusXM
    Yeah, premier parking is such a grift. Theyíve fucked up all parking because of it. You have to pay for it and STILL leave early if you want to get out of there by a reasonable time.
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    Absolutely, wouldn't think twice about it, no traffic and hours more sleep and not feel like hot death the next day


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    I tend to agree, truncated or not it's still a great song.
    While this is true, everyone knows that the build-up of tension and subsequent release leading into the reprise is what the song is all about. Truncating it is kind of an insult to the song, honestly. It would be neat to see it since I've never gotten it at a show, but I wouldn't choose it in its current state.
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    Old 05-10-2022, 11:22 AM   #14243
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    Here is the thing. For one night stands like Mansfield I loved what the band did by coming in hot with a Stone opener and having a crappy closer. The stone opener was my favorite opener of the tour in the 10 shows I went to as I think it's the bands most epic (and realistic) opener. For a non SPAC/MSG/Alpine/Gorge/Deer Creek tour stop I would rather them mail in the encore and come out the gate ripping. I know last year SPAC and DC had some weak endings and I hope that does change. But if you go to DMB in Huntsville why would they spice up the encore for a casual crowd?

    Also the band had some solid encores at Mohegan and MSG shows I went to. These were highly anticipated shows in the heart of DMB country and were 2 night stands and they played to the crowds with some dope endings.
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    Hot take. Iíd love the band to revisit be yourself for the next album. That epic taste of funk in bkdkdkdk is awesome


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    Hot take. Iíd love the band to revisit be yourself for the next album. That epic taste of funk in bkdkdkdk is awesome


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    So what are the chances of album news before the tour starts again?
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    Old 05-10-2022, 12:00 PM   #14247
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    I know one song the band has been working on the last few days. Whether it's played tomorrow or a few shows in, Ants will be happy.
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    I know one song the band has been working on the last few days. Whether it's played tomorrow or a few shows in, Ants will be happy.

    If youíre going to do this, then why not just spoiler the song?
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    Saw something nice over in the Texas thread if thatís what heís referring to


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    Kit Kat Jam gets liberated tomorrow

    Itís a crime this iteration of the band doesnít make this a 10+ per tour ďstapleĒ.

    They would absolutely crush it
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